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Post by stalybridgehatter on Aug 7, 2024 9:38:00 GMT
Apparently there's something planned up by Cheadle Royal tonight, near the David Lloyd/TGI Fridays. Looks like there's a law firm who help with immigration cases so logically that's a fair target. Can't see much going off though, tbh. It's a bit of out of the way, can't really get there unless you drive. I work in Salford and there was a big shut down of the precinct yesterday due to talk of a protest; all the shops and other business shut and put the shutters down, but nothing ever came of it. Hopefully now the repercussions of these riots are being seen, people are thinking twice before getting involved in it all. There was allegedly a protest planned outside the Capital on Old Hall Street in Liverpool too, not sure if anything happened though as nothing was reported to me as the Duty Officer for my office and the Capital. Hopefully people seeing others go from normal life to 5 years in prison in the space of a week because of mindless criminal damage and theft in the middle (all being documented by Tok Tok and Twitter) has been a wake up call.
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Post by mattyovrio on Aug 7, 2024 9:41:53 GMT
Don't be daft. There's no, no go areas, in Britain. I wish you right wing cucks would stop running your own country down for political point scoring reasons on internet discussion forums. I lived in Brazil where there were some proper no go areas. Even then not as many as a lot of the rich locals thought. There are no no-go areas in mainland UK - NI might be different. This made up nonsense is dangerous talk and via the social media echo chamber leads to the sort of violence we are seeing now - someone will eventually get killed and the likes of tvor will wash their hands of all responsibility.
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Post by bigmartin on Aug 7, 2024 9:44:30 GMT
I work in Salford and there was a big shut down of the precinct yesterday due to talk of a protest; all the shops and other business shut and put the shutters down, but nothing ever came of it. Hopefully now the repercussions of these riots are being seen, people are thinking twice before getting involved in it all. There was allegedly a protest planned outside the Capital on Old Hall Street in Liverpool too, not sure if anything happened though as nothing was reported to me as the Duty Officer for my office and the Capital. Hopefully people seeing others go from normal life to 5 years in prison in the space of a week because of mindless criminal damage and theft in the middle (all being documented by Tok Tok and Twitter) has been a wake up call. A minor thing but I love that they're being held on remand until trial. No hiding THAT from your employer, your family, your friends. Most excellent.
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Post by Stranded Hatter on Aug 7, 2024 9:47:28 GMT
No go zones are a wet dream of the right as are blokes like tvor who lap this nonsense up without thinking about what they read on their screens from their mum’s bedroom. I’ve lived in Birmingham and it’s very racially tolerant. There’s no way communities there will be encouraged to turn on each other. If racist idiots from out of town want to turn up and cause problems, they’ll be met with what we saw the other night. Obviously that got well out of hand and yet, nobody set fire to anything. I asked some dickhead on Facebook where the no go areas are in London a while back. "Poplar" he responded with. Which is hilarious, because when I'm down at Canary Wharf, the one place that me and the underwriting guys head for, geared for war in our suits, waistcoats and silk-ties, is Ravaa or Noodle Street in Poplar. People who have never been to London have the most amusing views of London to people who live and work around London.
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Post by mattyovrio on Aug 7, 2024 9:50:24 GMT
On many levels I understand looting, capitalism is responsible as much as anything else, if you live hand to mouth you can’t be told “this thing you don’t have, and will make your life as good as mine” 2,000 times a day without feeling shit and when the opportunity presents itself if I has to be tempting Not condoning it, just saying I understand it is more complex Rioting is also very tempting, especially when there is f*ck all else to do in some of these provincial towns Again, not condoning it… Terrorism works, I don’t ever want to see people being targeted but f*ck it, if blowing a building/bridge up gets the attention of bad actors in power then off you go But… Hating someone for the colour of their skin or for their political or religious views; demonising people with nothing, people with far far less opportunity, people with far fewer freedoms… That I will never understand I,d agree if the looting was confined to big companies but not when its a local butcher in hartlepool who gets his shop smashed up and people looting shops where the owner is just trying to scrape a living. No excuse whatsoever as i seriously doubt the looting is confined to people who have less than others in life. Thats where todays society have got it totally wrong. Everyone expects what others have but not all are willing to put the hours or effort into it. Once people knew and expected others to be in a better or worse position than they are in and just accepted it if they could not improve their lot. That is what you get with a consumerist society. You are what you consume - your status is based upon it. Doesn’t seem to matter how you get it. V sad.
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Post by bigmartin on Aug 7, 2024 9:51:06 GMT
Don't be daft. There's no, no go areas, in Britain. I wish you right wing cucks would stop running your own country down for political point scoring reasons on internet discussion forums. I lived in Brazil where there were some proper no go areas. Even then not as many as a lot of the rich locals thought. There are no no-go areas in mainland UK - NI might be different. This made up nonsense is dangerous talk and via the social media echo chamber leads to the sort of violence we are seeing now - someone will eventually get killed and the likes of tvor will wash their hands of all responsibility. Have you been to NI? It's no different than here these days. Went a couple of years back to see a client in Hillsborough. Firstly, it's astonishingly beautiful. People here who haven't been find that difficult to imagine. It's green, like Kent, or the Lakes. Absolutely stunning. And the coastline is every bit as wonderful as the Scottish Highlands for example. Secondly, there aren't no go areas. He took me the full tour of many of the famous/infamous places. Went out and about in Belfast also. It was fantastic. To be clear, you wouldn't walk in certain areas with an orange top on. Or, conversely in other areas, wearing shamrock green. You'd probably be OK but you'd likely receive some abuse. But the idea of a casual stranger not being able to walk down any roads or go into any areas there is, yet again, nonsense propagated by people for what end I've no idea whatsoever. Again - the right-wing here love running down our country. Just like the American right wing in many respects.
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Post by mattyovrio on Aug 7, 2024 9:52:56 GMT
I lived in Brazil where there were some proper no go areas. Even then not as many as a lot of the rich locals thought. There are no no-go areas in mainland UK - NI might be different. This made up nonsense is dangerous talk and via the social media echo chamber leads to the sort of violence we are seeing now - someone will eventually get killed and the likes of tvor will wash their hands of all responsibility. Have you been to NI? It's no different. Went a couple of years back to see a client in Hillsborough. Firstly, and important to emphasis, it's astonishingly beautiful. Secondly, there aren't no go areas. He took me the full tour of many of the famous places. Went out and about in Belfast. It was fantastic. To be clear, you wouldn't walk in certain areas with an orange top on. Or, conversely in other areas, wearing shamrock green. You'd probably be OK but you'd likely receive some abuse. But the idea of a casual stranger not being able to walk down any roads or go into any areas there is, yet again, nonsense propagated by people for what end I've no idea whatsoever. Again - the right-wing here love running down our country. Just like the American right wing in many respects. I wasn’t clear - yes, dependant upon your religion and after recent events, possibly your ethnicity.
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Post by Stranded Hatter on Aug 7, 2024 9:53:14 GMT
I asked some dickhead on Facebook where the no go areas are in London a while back. "Poplar" he responded with. Which is hilarious, because when I'm down at Canary Wharf, the one place that me and the underwriting guys head for, geared for war in our suits, waistcoats and silk-ties, is Ravaa or Noodle Street in Poplar. I remember around 10 years back my partner spent a year living in Deepdale in Preston and whilst there it got branded a 'no-go area' by the EDL, it was just utter fabricated nonsense! I remember some English agent provocateur going on Fox News in the States declaring that all of Birmingham was a no go area. Was news to me and I was living in Brum at the time.
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Post by timberwolf on Aug 7, 2024 9:55:54 GMT
No go zones are a wet dream of the right as are blokes like tvor who lap this nonsense up without thinking about what they read on their screens from their mum’s bedroom. I’ve lived in Birmingham and it’s very racially tolerant. There’s no way communities there will be encouraged to turn on each other. If racist idiots from out of town want to turn up and cause problems, they’ll be met with what we saw the other night. Obviously that got well out of hand and yet, nobody set fire to anything. Just wonder though if that area of birmingham you lived in is as racially tolerant today as it once was. Things have certainly changed in my area of west yorkshire since moving here in 2010. There might be no trouble between sections of the community but on the whole they have got further away from each other and you can feel tensions.
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Post by bigmartin on Aug 7, 2024 9:59:44 GMT
No go zones are a wet dream of the right as are blokes like tvor who lap this nonsense up without thinking about what they read on their screens from their mum’s bedroom. I’ve lived in Birmingham and it’s very racially tolerant. There’s no way communities there will be encouraged to turn on each other. If racist idiots from out of town want to turn up and cause problems, they’ll be met with what we saw the other night. Obviously that got well out of hand and yet, nobody set fire to anything. Just wonder though if that area of birmingham you lived in is as racially tolerant today as it once was. Things have certainly changed in my area of west yorkshire since moving here in 2010. There might be no trouble between sections of the community but on the whole they have got further away from each other and you can feel tensions. Of course there are tensions. Some people are literally doing everything within their power to whip those tensions up aren't they?
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Post by bigmartin on Aug 7, 2024 10:02:17 GMT
I asked some dickhead on Facebook where the no go areas are in London a while back. "Poplar" he responded with. Which is hilarious, because when I'm down at Canary Wharf, the one place that me and the underwriting guys head for, geared for war in our suits, waistcoats and silk-ties, is Ravaa or Noodle Street in Poplar. People who have never been to London have the most amusing views of London to people who live and work around London. Don't they? My Texan, well travelled friend from Austin, the fully fledged gun nut whom I'm sure I have mentioned in the past, who comes over to our Blackpool ASL tournament each year, stays in London for a couple of days and then every year or three does Manchester. Reckons they're two of the best cities on the planet. His very sublime summary at some point in the past - Americans should travel more... Funny - I took him in one pub in Manchester - it may have been the Old Turk's Head. He looked around and said (very loudly) "HEY MARTY - THIS PUBS OLDER THAN MURCA"
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Post by Count de Stockport on Aug 7, 2024 10:02:22 GMT
Don't be daft. There's no, no go areas, in Britain. I wish you right wing cucks would stop running your own country down for political point scoring reasons on internet discussion forums. I lived in Brazil where there were some proper no go areas. Even then not as many as a lot of the rich locals thought. There are no no-go areas in mainland UK - NI might be different. This made up nonsense is dangerous talk and via the social media echo chamber leads to the sort of violence we are seeing now - someone will eventually get killed and the likes of tvor will wash their hands of all responsibility. Jo Cox
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Post by Cale Green Hatter on Aug 7, 2024 10:04:10 GMT
No go zones are a wet dream of the right as are blokes like tvor who lap this nonsense up without thinking about what they read on their screens from their mum’s bedroom. I’ve lived in Birmingham and it’s very racially tolerant. There’s no way communities there will be encouraged to turn on each other. If racist idiots from out of town want to turn up and cause problems, they’ll be met with what we saw the other night. Obviously that got well out of hand and yet, nobody set fire to anything. I asked some dickhead on Facebook where the no go areas are in London a while back. "Poplar" he responded with. Which is hilarious, because when I'm down at Canary Wharf, the one place that me and the underwriting guys head for, geared for war in our suits, waistcoats and silk-ties, is Ravaa or Noodle Street in Poplar. Back in the early 90's we lived in Plaistow and Canning Town. The 15 bus from central London to West Ham went through Limehouse and Poplar and generally took forever to get home. One summer evening half a dozen of us, all strangers got off the bus, had a pint, then got back on the same bus. We had 3 pints along Commercial Road / East India Dock Road and got off the same bus in Plaistow that we had got on in Aldgate. Told people at work the following day and they thought we were mad. Didn't we know how violent the place was? Never had a problem down that way. They must have all been waiting for me and the missus to go home before kicking off.
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Post by Count de Stockport on Aug 7, 2024 10:05:18 GMT
I remember around 10 years back my partner spent a year living in Deepdale in Preston and whilst there it got branded a 'no-go area' by the EDL, it was just utter fabricated nonsense! I remember some English agent provocateur going on Fox News in the States declaring that all of Birmingham was a no go area. Was news to me and I was living in Brum at the time. I narrowly avoided getting sucked into a pointless argument with a yank who tried lecturing me on how all of Manchester was 'one big sharia zone'. I distinctly remember how bemused I was, like I was on the verge of questioning my own sanity, it was just such a stupid argument
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Post by bigmartin on Aug 7, 2024 10:07:32 GMT
I asked some dickhead on Facebook where the no go areas are in London a while back. "Poplar" he responded with. Which is hilarious, because when I'm down at Canary Wharf, the one place that me and the underwriting guys head for, geared for war in our suits, waistcoats and silk-ties, is Ravaa or Noodle Street in Poplar. Back in the early 90's we lived in Plaistow and Canning Town. The 15 bus from central London to West Ham went through Limehouse and Poplar and generally took forever to get home. One summer evening half a dozen of, all strangers got off the bus, had a pint, then got back on the same bus. We had 3 pints along Commercial Road / East India Dock Road and got off the same bus in Plaistow that we had got on in Aldgate. Told people at work the following day and they thought we were mad. Didn't we know how violent the place was? Never had a problem down that way. They must have all been waiting for me and the missus to go home before kicking off. That'll be near where we always go I reckon? We go for drinks in the Wethys (I think it's called The Ledger Rooms) and one or two of the other places on the dockside there. Cross that big road (W India Dock Road - my memory may be failing me)? And we're there. Love it. Never seen even the remotest sniff of an issue and I've been out there drinking until late evening over the years. And I am NOT a fighter. Always get the weird driverless train (which I call the Grand National - but none of the Londoners 'get it') back to Limeharbour where I stay. Which always draws a grimace as I understand Limeharbour area may be one of those "no go zones". I think it's caribean in nature. Not 100% sure but I know there are street food vendors and shops near where I stay (which is cheap, because even though work pay, I still like a bargain) and they smell absolutely bloody loverly.
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