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Post by herbiedumplings on Aug 7, 2024 10:55:56 GMT
I must remember next time I meet a tourist to regale them with the tales of my time living in Hulme and Longsight… (I don’t remember ever even seeing a knife or hearing a gunshot, let alone being caught up in anything like that.) Funny isn't it. I got slashed in the throat when I was 23 in High lane of all places & Stabbed in the chest in a takeaway in Great Moor just over 10 years later. About as far as supposed 'no go area's' as you could get. Both perpetrators were white, one of them in his mid 50's. Sorry if too on the nose…
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Post by scfc73 on Aug 7, 2024 11:05:17 GMT
Funny isn't it. I got slashed in the throat when I was 23 in High lane of all places & Stabbed in the chest in a takeaway in Great Moor just over 10 years later. About as far as supposed 'no go area's' as you could get. Both perpetrators were white, one of them in his mid 50's. Sorry if too on the nose… Not at all pal. Just highlighting that bad stuff can happen anywhere & supporting your experience in Hulme. People shouldn't stereotype places or people just because they have a supposed reputation often given by people who haven't lived or had any real experience of an area & it's people.
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Post by vicar on Aug 7, 2024 11:08:07 GMT
Liz Truss was a terrible PM, as bad as Johnson in my opinion, what are you actually saying Starmer has got wrong? I've said it before but a civilised society should aim for fewer prisons. I think his speech to the country about protecting the minorities was wrong. He needed to put out that everybody should be protected. I think he fanned the flames with that one. And remember the Rochdale lads that were involved in a disturbance at Manchester Airport? Starmer was was pretty quick to come out and speak out on their behalf until it came our that they started it all with their attack on the Police officers. How can we arrest people marching and able to have them up in court the next day when this group have still not been charged with anything despite all the clear video evidence? What we need from the Police and the Government is consistency. Of course we should protect our minorities, just being in a minority brings added vulnerability and I can't find anything where he speaks out on behalf of the Rochdale lads, as for not charging them quickly enough he's not head of the CPS anymore so that's not his shout. The rioters are being dealt with quickly to act as a deterrent to anyone daft enough to go out and smash their own towns up.
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Post by timberwolf on Aug 7, 2024 11:12:12 GMT
I,d hazard a guess now that there will be many areas of the country where anyone non white is viewed by whites with great suspicion and made equally as uncomfortable in as those so called no go areas for whites.
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Post by palmersears on Aug 7, 2024 11:15:44 GMT
I must remember next time I meet a tourist to regale them with the tales of my time living in Hulme and Longsight… (I don’t remember ever even seeing a knife or hearing a gunshot, let alone being caught up in anything like that.) Funny isn't it. I got slashed in the throat when I was 23 in High lane of all places & Stabbed in the chest in a takeaway in Great Moor just over 10 years later. About as far as supposed 'no go area's' as you could get. Both perpetrators were white, one of them in his mid 50's. Having lived in High Lane for 18 years I'm amazed there's anybody there young enough to have the physical ability to grip a knife without their arthritis kicking in, let alone have the shoulder mobility to the slash somebody in the throat. Dare I ask whereabouts in God's waiting room it happened?
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Post by timberwolf on Aug 7, 2024 11:20:23 GMT
I think his speech to the country about protecting the minorities was wrong. He needed to put out that everybody should be protected. I think he fanned the flames with that one. And remember the Rochdale lads that were involved in a disturbance at Manchester Airport? Starmer was was pretty quick to come out and speak out on their behalf until it came our that they started it all with their attack on the Police officers. How can we arrest people marching and able to have them up in court the next day when this group have still not been charged with anything despite all the clear video evidence? What we need from the Police and the Government is consistency. Of course we should protect our minorities, just being in a minority brings added vulnerability and I can't find anything where he speaks out on behalf of the Rochdale lads, as for not charging them quickly enough he's not head of the CPS anymore so that's not his shout. The rioters are being dealt with quickly to act as a deterrent to anyone daft enough to go out and smash their own towns up. No. Sorry as all minority groups are protected anyway by the laws we have already in force. Making anyone a special case is going to annoy anyone who just goes through a normal peaceful life not interfering with anybody but are part of the majority. We have had this all before on the subject of brits living abroad where the ones who refuse to integrate with the locals there and refusing to learn the language get castigated. Cannot move the goal posts to suit a point of view on one subject and if you are a minority its up to you to change to what a country requires and not the country bending over backwards to change for you.
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Post by herbiedumplings on Aug 7, 2024 11:23:54 GMT
I think his speech to the country about protecting the minorities was wrong. He needed to put out that everybody should be protected. I think he fanned the flames with that one. And remember the Rochdale lads that were involved in a disturbance at Manchester Airport? Starmer was was pretty quick to come out and speak out on their behalf until it came out that they started it all with their attack on the Police officers. How can we arrest people marching and able to have them up in court the next day when this group have still not been charged with anything despite all the clear video evidence? What we need from the Police and the Government is consistency. Of course we should protect our minorities, just being in a minority brings added vulnerability and I can't find anything where he speaks out on behalf of the Rochdale lads, as for not charging them quickly enough he's not head of the CPS anymore so that's not his shout. The rioters are being dealt with quickly to act as a deterrent to anyone daft enough to go out and smash their own towns up. ”…arrest people marching…” Bless.
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Post by vicar on Aug 7, 2024 11:40:38 GMT
Of course we should protect our minorities, just being in a minority brings added vulnerability and I can't find anything where he speaks out on behalf of the Rochdale lads, as for not charging them quickly enough he's not head of the CPS anymore so that's not his shout. The rioters are being dealt with quickly to act as a deterrent to anyone daft enough to go out and smash their own towns up. No. Sorry as all minority groups are protected anyway by the laws we have already in force. Making anyone a special case is going to annoy anyone who just goes through a normal peaceful life not interfering with anybody but are part of the majority. We have had this all before on the subject of brits living abroad where the ones who refuse to integrate with the locals there and refusing to learn the language get castigated. Cannot move the goal posts to suit a point of view on one subject and if you are a minority its up to you to change to what a country requires and not the country bending over backwards to change for you. And we're only using the laws we already have, are you saying we shouldn't protect those asylum seekers coming under attack? I really can't see what point it is you're trying to make.
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Post by vicar on Aug 7, 2024 11:46:32 GMT
Funny isn't it. I got slashed in the throat when I was 23 in High lane of all places & Stabbed in the chest in a takeaway in Great Moor just over 10 years later. About as far as supposed 'no go area's' as you could get. Both perpetrators were white, one of them in his mid 50's. Having lived in High Lane for 18 years I'm amazed there's anybody there young enough to have the physical ability to grip a knife without their arthritis kicking in, let alone have the shoulder mobility to the slash somebody in the throat. Dare I ask whereabouts in God's waiting room it happened? Stockport has the oldest population in Greater Manchester and High Lane has the oldest population in Stockport, my granddaughter is mindng our house while we're in Spain and she said she loves it because all the oldies are really nice.
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Post by timberwolf on Aug 7, 2024 11:58:00 GMT
No. Sorry as all minority groups are protected anyway by the laws we have already in force. Making anyone a special case is going to annoy anyone who just goes through a normal peaceful life not interfering with anybody but are part of the majority. We have had this all before on the subject of brits living abroad where the ones who refuse to integrate with the locals there and refusing to learn the language get castigated. Cannot move the goal posts to suit a point of view on one subject and if you are a minority its up to you to change to what a country requires and not the country bending over backwards to change for you. And we're only using the laws we already have, are you saying we shouldn't protect those asylum seekers coming under attack? I really can't see what point it is you're trying to make. Not saying we should not protect asylum seekers or anyone else. Its this case of making special cases for some section of a community over others. We certainly didn,t here the same rhetoric on here with the BLM protests that turned into riots where excuses were made rather than castigating those taking part. Its the weakness of the left where minorities always seem to be one step above majorities in there eyes and will go the extra mile to protect them. That does not mean they should get zero protection but the same as any group get without fear or favour.
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Post by Stranded Hatter on Aug 7, 2024 12:02:21 GMT
Funny isn't it. I got slashed in the throat when I was 23 in High lane of all places & Stabbed in the chest in a takeaway in Great Moor just over 10 years later. About as far as supposed 'no go area's' as you could get. Both perpetrators were white, one of them in his mid 50's. Bloody hell. Never going out with thee ! Not been duffed up since my teens. By a gang of white lads. Been threatened on the old yellow board thrice though via private message (and text) as people will know by now because I never get bored of mentioning it I was twice targeted by a racially motivated gang while living in Birmingham. They were mixed race lads who travelled from Leicester to target white male students after dark in Selly Oak. I got away both times. Aside from those two incidents a fortnight apart (and they ended up going down for conspiracy to rob) every other time I’ve had any issues of being on the receiving end of violence or threats of violence it’s been white people. It’s not been many, but mostly what it’s taught me is that the issue is angry violent men who are the problem, regardless of race.
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Post by vicar on Aug 7, 2024 12:02:48 GMT
And we're only using the laws we already have, are you saying we shouldn't protect those asylum seekers coming under attack? I really can't see what point it is you're trying to make. Not saying we should not protect asylum seekers or anyone else. Its this case of making special cases for some section of a community over others. We certainly didn,t here the same rhetoric on here with the BLM protests that turned into riots where excuses were made rather than castigating those taking part. Its the weakness of the left where minorities always seem to be one step above majorities in there eyes and will go the extra mile to protect them. That does not mean they should get zero protection but the same as any group get without fear or favour. Majorities by their very nature are less vulnerable but the law is there to protect us all, if your house came under attack you'd get the same level of protection.
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Post by Stranded Hatter on Aug 7, 2024 12:10:28 GMT
As for talk of two tier policing. 5 Just Stop Oil activists got 21 years between them for having a zoom meeting where they discussed organising a peaceful protest.
Be interested to see some of the sentences handed out following these riots…
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Post by bigmartin on Aug 7, 2024 12:32:17 GMT
And we're only using the laws we already have, are you saying we shouldn't protect those asylum seekers coming under attack? I really can't see what point it is you're trying to make. Not saying we should not protect asylum seekers or anyone else. Its this case of making special cases for some section of a community over others. We certainly didn,t here the same rhetoric on here with the BLM protests that turned into riots where excuses were made rather than castigating those taking part. Its the weakness of the left where minorities always seem to be one step above majorities in there eyes and will go the extra mile to protect them. That does not mean they should get zero protection but the same as any group get without fear or favour. It's a "weakness" that the left go the extra mile to help/protect minorities? Well. OK. I think you probably warrant being treated as a special case if people are out, in large groups, to try and murder you. Which was never really the cadence of the BLM protests, unwarranted though they were at the time in my view. Unless you were a statue of a slave trader you were pretty safe I seem to recall.
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Post by suedehead on Aug 7, 2024 12:50:28 GMT
And we're only using the laws we already have, are you saying we shouldn't protect those asylum seekers coming under attack? I really can't see what point it is you're trying to make. Not saying we should not protect asylum seekers or anyone else. Its this case of making special cases for some section of a community over others. We certainly didn,t here the same rhetoric on here with the BLM protests that turned into riots where excuses were made rather than castigating those taking part. Its the weakness of the left where minorities always seem to be one step above majorities in there eyes and will go the extra mile to protect them. That does not mean they should get zero protection but the same as any group get without fear or favour. But those minorities are special cases. There's literally gangs of lads stalking the streets right now setting fire to hotels where those minorities are living. When that happens, those minorities deserve extra protection. It's a nice idea that everyone is treated equal and afforded the same protections, but that only works if everyone treats each other equally. Which isn't happening.
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