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Post by runtothehills on Aug 21, 2024 18:29:32 GMT
There is. These conventions are not normally as electric. Biden was back closer to his best. Great speeches as well from the Obamas and Doug Emhoff. Barack Obama in particular was still his old suave, charming and funny self. Here are some clips comparing the RNC and DNC (the delegate counts): x.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1826224111062003991Did you happen to hear Trump yesterday. He did one of these small press conferences. It's the one with the State Troopers behind him. He sounded devoid of any energy. Quietly mumbling. None of the noisy, bravado. The suggestions were he was sedated and, I'm not one to lap up the propaganda from either side, but he didn't seem "right". I'm convinced he's given up. I don't take much notice of the guy but when someone tries to kill you that's got to take a hell of a toll on you mentally which given all the other pressures he's normally under I wouldn't be surprised if he's on the verge of some sort of breakdown, you can project an image of bravado but it has to have a big effect.
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Post by bigmartin on Aug 21, 2024 18:29:53 GMT
Did you happen to hear Trump yesterday. He did one of these small press conferences. It's the one with the State Troopers behind him. He sounded devoid of any energy. Quietly mumbling. None of the noisy, bravado. The suggestions were he was sedated and, I'm not one to lap up the propaganda from either side, but he didn't seem "right". I'm convinced he's given up. This was outrageous from Obama. Blink and you'll miss it... x.com/yashar/status/1826102962504216641Yep. That's hilarious. According to Meidas that's Trump's "tell" is that. Does it when he's confused and has lost focus.
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Post by Fez on Aug 21, 2024 19:43:12 GMT
Yep. That's hilarious. According to Meidas that's Trump's "tell" is that. Does it when he's confused and has lost focus. I thought he was making a dick joke...
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Post by vicar on Aug 21, 2024 19:57:35 GMT
There is. These conventions are not normally as electric. Biden was back closer to his best. Great speeches as well from the Obamas and Doug Emhoff. Barack Obama in particular was still his old suave, charming and funny self. Here are some clips comparing the RNC and DNC (the delegate counts): x.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1826224111062003991Did you happen to hear Trump yesterday. He did one of these small press conferences. It's the one with the State Troopers behind him. He sounded devoid of any energy. Quietly mumbling. None of the noisy, bravado. The suggestions were he was sedated and, I'm not one to lap up the propaganda from either side, but he didn't seem "right". I'm convinced he's given up. I thought exactly the same, I'd have no energy for taking on a big job now and I'm 11 years younger than Trump, he's running out of steam and it's perfectly understandable.
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Post by Fez on Aug 21, 2024 20:51:45 GMT
Did you happen to hear Trump yesterday. He did one of these small press conferences. It's the one with the State Troopers behind him. He sounded devoid of any energy. Quietly mumbling. None of the noisy, bravado. The suggestions were he was sedated and, I'm not one to lap up the propaganda from either side, but he didn't seem "right". I'm convinced he's given up. I thought exactly the same, I'd have no energy for taking on a big job now and I'm 11 years younger than Trump, he's running out of steam and it's perfectly understandable. People are getting bored and tired of Trump's charade and the same old schtick - not just opponents and undecideds but probably a number of his supporters. And if he does not have the energy and 'showmanship' any more to make up for his babbling incoherence, then that's a problem for him. This thread has a great breakdown of that notion: x.com/johnastoehr/status/1826246924238049733
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Post by bigmartin on Aug 21, 2024 22:45:56 GMT
Yep. That's hilarious. According to Meidas that's Trump's "tell" is that. Does it when he's confused and has lost focus. I thought he was making a dick joke... I genuinely thought he was covering both bases and that it's multifaceted. I know that some of the left leaning podcasters take the piss massively out of Trumps accordion hands. But watching it in context I think you're actually correct.
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Post by bigmartin on Aug 21, 2024 22:52:09 GMT
It absolutely kills me with laughter. Posting in the event anyone's not seen it...
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Post by scfc73 on Aug 22, 2024 5:33:13 GMT
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Post by timberwolf on Aug 22, 2024 8:25:50 GMT
All i can say about the american presedential race is i want the winner who will be the best for the UK no matter who.
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Post by Mozzer on Aug 22, 2024 8:48:48 GMT
Trump would be a disaster for pretty much everyone except Trump.
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Post by herbiedumplings on Aug 22, 2024 8:54:38 GMT
Trump would be a disaster for pretty much everyone except Trump. There will be a dynasty that makes the Kims in North Korea look rational and democratic.
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Post by bigmartin on Aug 22, 2024 10:03:09 GMT
All i can say about the american presedential race is i want the winner who will be the best for the UK no matter who. His supporters want Russia to win. If that doesn't give you the answer you're looking for here then I can't help any further. They want to withdraw from NATO, let Europe look after ourselves, close their borders and completely lock themselves away in 'splendid isolation'. It's why Trump was teeing off on NATO to 'all pay their way' (which to an extent IS fair criticism but in this instance it's his opportunity to get the US out in the name of "America First"). I wouldn't say that Europe is f*cked militarily if the US parted ways with NATO. But we'd be in the kind of danger we've probably in our lifetimes never seen. I watched a podcast recently where an economic expert made the very salient, and usually overlooked point "if that happens, don't get too attached to your savings, and your Pensions, because there'd be the kind of meltdown in the Stock Market the likes of which hasn't happened before EVER. Evidence is all out there and Trump's literally told everybody what he intends to do (ie. "be a Dictator on day 1". His words directly).
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Post by Fez on Aug 22, 2024 14:30:44 GMT
It absolutely kills me with laughter. Posting in the event anyone's not seen it... I had not seen that. Hilarious, thanks. Some decent stuff at the DNC last night. But (VP nominee) Tim Walz's son inadvertently stole the show.
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Post by Fez on Aug 22, 2024 14:47:00 GMT
All i can say about the american presedential race is i want the winner who will be the best for the UK no matter who. His supporters want Russia to win. If that doesn't give you the answer you're looking for here then I can't help any further. They want to withdraw from NATO, let Europe look after ourselves, close their borders and completely lock themselves away in 'splendid isolation'. It's why Trump was teeing off on NATO to 'all pay their way' (which to an extent IS fair criticism but in this instance it's his opportunity to get the US out in the name of "America First"). I wouldn't say that Europe is f*cked militarily if the US parted ways with NATO. But we'd be in the kind of danger we've probably in our lifetimes never seen. I watched a podcast recently where an economic expert made the very salient, and usually overlooked point "if that happens, don't get too attached to your savings, and your Pensions, because there'd be the kind of meltdown in the Stock Market the likes of which hasn't happened before EVER. Evidence is all out there and Trump's literally told everybody what he intends to do (ie. "be a Dictator on day 1". His words directly). Agreed on all counts. The US contributes more defence spending to NATO as a % of GDP than any member except Poland (3.4 and 3.9% respectively). Germany, for example, is at a paltry 1.6%, when the NATO agreement is for at least 2% from each member. But that does not mean that the US should withdraw entirely; that would be a policy driven by nationalistic dogma and Trump's desire - or need - to please Putin. If anyone is any doubt regarding the dangers and horrors of another Trump presidency, then just seek out Project 2025.
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Post by Count de Stockport on Aug 22, 2024 15:21:33 GMT
His supporters want Russia to win. If that doesn't give you the answer you're looking for here then I can't help any further. They want to withdraw from NATO, let Europe look after ourselves, close their borders and completely lock themselves away in 'splendid isolation'. It's why Trump was teeing off on NATO to 'all pay their way' (which to an extent IS fair criticism but in this instance it's his opportunity to get the US out in the name of "America First"). I wouldn't say that Europe is f*cked militarily if the US parted ways with NATO. But we'd be in the kind of danger we've probably in our lifetimes never seen. I watched a podcast recently where an economic expert made the very salient, and usually overlooked point "if that happens, don't get too attached to your savings, and your Pensions, because there'd be the kind of meltdown in the Stock Market the likes of which hasn't happened before EVER. Evidence is all out there and Trump's literally told everybody what he intends to do (ie. "be a Dictator on day 1". His words directly). If anyone is any doubt regarding the dangers and horrors of another Trump presidency, then just seek out Project 2025. +1 Very much a case of too many people with too much influence mistaking The Handmaid's Tale for a manual
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