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Post by Stranded Hatter on Aug 26, 2024 13:46:46 GMT
Dear Tories: Do you really think a temporary pass for No. 10 for a Labour Peer is the same as billions in PPE contracts? I mean, I know Nanny always used to say “Two wrongs don’t make a right,” but seriously? You’re claiming parity? So labour can never do any wrong then if every wrong has to be compared to the wrongs of the tory party every single time. Labour can and will do plenty wrong. There will obviously be comparisons with the opposition especially if said opposition try and make waves of any Labour Party member’s transgressions.
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Post by tvor on Aug 27, 2024 12:22:01 GMT
It didn't take them long to go back on their promises :-(
The government's claims of a £22bn "black hole" left by the Tories have been questioned following substantial pay awards to unions - including to both junior doctors and train drivers.
From Sky News .....
Laura Trott, the Conservatives' shadow chief secretary to the Treasury, said: "The government are no longer promising to protect working people from their incoming tax raid because just like pensioners, working families are next in line for Labour's tax hikes.
"After promising over 50 times in the election not to raise taxes on working people Labour are now rolling the pitch to break even more promises.
"The chancellor is entitled to raise taxes to pay for her expensive choices and above inflation pay rises demanded by her union paymasters, but she should have had the courage to be honest from the start.
"This a betrayal of people's trust and we will hold them to account for their actions."
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Post by nelly on Aug 27, 2024 12:47:43 GMT
It didn't take them long to go back on their promises :-( The government's claims of a £22bn "black hole" left by the Tories have been questioned following substantial pay awards to unions - including to both junior doctors and train drivers. From Sky News ..... Laura Trott, the Conservatives' shadow chief secretary to the Treasury, said: "The government are no longer promising to protect working people from their incoming tax raid because just like pensioners, working families are next in line for Labour's tax hikes. "After promising over 50 times in the election not to raise taxes on working people Labour are now rolling the pitch to break even more promises. "The chancellor is entitled to raise taxes to pay for her expensive choices and above inflation pay rises demanded by her union paymasters, but she should have had the courage to be honest from the start. "This a betrayal of people's trust and we will hold them to account for their actions." Your lot have left us in a mess ffs. 1% pay rises for 10+ years and now it's catch-up time. It's been stated that working people will not suffer tax rises. More right wing misinformation.
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Post by tvor on Aug 27, 2024 13:18:08 GMT
It didn't take them long to go back on their promises :-( The government's claims of a £22bn "black hole" left by the Tories have been questioned following substantial pay awards to unions - including to both junior doctors and train drivers. From Sky News ..... Laura Trott, the Conservatives' shadow chief secretary to the Treasury, said: "The government are no longer promising to protect working people from their incoming tax raid because just like pensioners, working families are next in line for Labour's tax hikes. "After promising over 50 times in the election not to raise taxes on working people Labour are now rolling the pitch to break even more promises. "The chancellor is entitled to raise taxes to pay for her expensive choices and above inflation pay rises demanded by her union paymasters, but she should have had the courage to be honest from the start. Your lot have left us in a mess ffs. 1% pay rises for 10+ years and now it's catch-up time. It's been stated that working people will not suffer tax rises. More right wing misinformation. Your lot? Get your facts right nelly. I voted against the conservatives at the last election. The current Labour government regime have been shambolic, starting with the cancelling of a much needed mine up in Cumbria (on day one !) then Reeves subsequent attack on the pensioners winter fuel benefit. I see that she's not attacked the MP's generous benefits packages that includes heating amongst other things. Double standards. And this 22 Billion pound black hole that she and Starmer constantly moan about, repeating it 24x7 multiple times a day doesn't mean it's the truth. Oh and be warned ........ Nicholas Nesbitt, partner at accountants Forvis Mazars, reckons Reeves will slap inheritance tax (IHT) on unused pensions. Personally, I think that's a shoo-in. He thinks she'll go further warning: "The government may look to tighten rules on gifting money away for IHT purposes, perhaps by taxing gifts over a certain size, or introducing a lifetime limit of gifts." And I reckon there's a chance Reeves could scrap the £175,000 main residence allowance, which applies when passing on the family home to children or grandchildren.
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Post by Nik on Aug 27, 2024 13:21:50 GMT
Your lot have left us in a mess ffs. 1% pay rises for 10+ years and now it's catch-up time. It's been stated that working people will not suffer tax rises. More right wing misinformation. Your lot? Get your facts right nelly. I voted against the conservatives at the last election. The current Labour government regime have been shambolic, starting with the cancelling of a much needed mine up in Cumbria (on day one !) then Reeves subsequent attack on the pensioners winter fuel benefit. I see that she's not attacked the MP's generous benefits packages that includes heating amongst other things. Double standards. And this 22 Billion pound black hole that she and Starmer constantly moan about, repeating it 24x7 multiple times a day doesn't mean it's the truth. Oh and be warned ........ Nicholas Nesbitt, partner at accountants Forvis Mazars, reckons Reeves will slap inheritance tax (IHT) on unused pensions. Personally, I think that's a shoo-in. He thinks she'll go further warning: "The government may look to tighten rules on gifting money away for IHT purposes, perhaps by taxing gifts over a certain size, or introducing a lifetime limit of gifts." And I reckon there's a chance Reeves could scrap the £175,000 main residence allowance, which applies when passing on the family home to children or grandchildren. You're condemning Labour's 6-week long time in government as 'shambolic', yet haven't used that phrase once during your repeated defence of the previous 14 years under the Tories, when according to you it was everyone else's fault but theirs.
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Post by bigmartin on Aug 27, 2024 13:26:19 GMT
Your lot have left us in a mess ffs. 1% pay rises for 10+ years and now it's catch-up time. It's been stated that working people will not suffer tax rises. More right wing misinformation. Your lot? Get your facts right nelly. I voted against the conservatives at the last election. The current Labour government regime have been shambolic, starting with the cancelling of a much needed mine up in Cumbria (on day one !) then Reeves subsequent attack on the pensioners winter fuel benefit. I see that she's not attacked the MP's generous benefits packages that includes heating amongst other things. Double standards. And this 22 Billion pound black hole that she and Starmer constantly moan about, repeating it 24x7 multiple times a day doesn't mean it's the truth. Oh and be warned ........ Nicholas Nesbitt, partner at accountants Forvis Mazars, reckons Reeves will slap inheritance tax (IHT) on unused pensions. Personally, I think that's a shoo-in. He thinks she'll go further warning: "The government may look to tighten rules on gifting money away for IHT purposes, perhaps by taxing gifts over a certain size, or introducing a lifetime limit of gifts." And I reckon there's a chance Reeves could scrap the £175,000 main residence allowance, which applies when passing on the family home to children or grandchildren. All sounds good to me (apart from the mine). And they've scrapped that private aircraft that the Tories were nipping about in like Richard Branson. It's been a good start on the whole.
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Post by hedleyverity on Aug 27, 2024 13:38:31 GMT
Your lot have left us in a mess ffs. 1% pay rises for 10+ years and now it's catch-up time. It's been stated that working people will not suffer tax rises. More right wing misinformation. Your lot? Get your facts right nelly. I voted against the conservatives at the last election. :-* The current Labour government regime have been shambolic, starting with the cancelling of a much needed mine up in Cumbria (on day one !) then Reeves subsequent attack on the pensioners winter fuel benefit. I see that she's not attacked the MP's generous benefits packages that includes heating amongst other things. Double standards. And this 22 Billion pound black hole that she and Starmer constantly moan about, repeating it 24x7 multiple times a day doesn't mean it's the truth. Oh and be warned ........ Nicholas Nesbitt, partner at accountants Forvis Mazars, reckons Reeves will slap inheritance tax (IHT) on unused pensions. Personally, I think that's a shoo-in. He thinks she'll go further warning: "The government may look to tighten rules on gifting money away for IHT purposes, perhaps by taxing gifts over a certain size, or introducing a lifetime limit of gifts." And I reckon there's a chance Reeves could scrap the £175,000 main residence allowance, which applies when passing on the family home to children or grandchildren. Attacking them for things they’ve done or have said they will do is fair game, attacking them for things a partner in an accounting firm thinks they might do is a bit desperate
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Post by Cale Green Hatter on Aug 27, 2024 13:39:39 GMT
Your lot? Get your facts right nelly. I voted against the conservatives at the last election. The current Labour government regime have been shambolic, starting with the cancelling of a much needed mine up in Cumbria (on day one !) then Reeves subsequent attack on the pensioners winter fuel benefit. I see that she's not attacked the MP's generous benefits packages that includes heating amongst other things. Double standards. And this 22 Billion pound black hole that she and Starmer constantly moan about, repeating it 24x7 multiple times a day doesn't mean it's the truth. Oh and be warned ........ Nicholas Nesbitt, partner at accountants Forvis Mazars, reckons Reeves will slap inheritance tax (IHT) on unused pensions. Personally, I think that's a shoo-in. He thinks she'll go further warning: "The government may look to tighten rules on gifting money away for IHT purposes, perhaps by taxing gifts over a certain size, or introducing a lifetime limit of gifts." And I reckon there's a chance Reeves could scrap the £175,000 main residence allowance, which applies when passing on the family home to children or grandchildren. You're condemning Labour's 6-week long time in government as 'shambolic', yet haven't used that phrase once during your repeated defence of the previous 14 years under the Tories, when according to you it was everyone else's fault but theirs. When your source of information is the Daily Mail, Daily Express, Daily Telegraph, Sky and GB News it's reasonable to assume that your Political allegiances lie with the Tories or Farage's bunch of #####.
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Post by nelly on Aug 27, 2024 13:40:41 GMT
Your lot have left us in a mess ffs. 1% pay rises for 10+ years and now it's catch-up time. It's been stated that working people will not suffer tax rises. More right wing misinformation. Your lot? Get your facts right nelly. I voted against the conservatives at the last election. The current Labour government regime have been shambolic, starting with the cancelling of a much needed mine up in Cumbria (on day one !) then Reeves subsequent attack on the pensioners winter fuel benefit. I see that she's not attacked the MP's generous benefits packages that includes heating amongst other things. Double standards. And this 22 Billion pound black hole that she and Starmer constantly moan about, repeating it 24x7 multiple times a day doesn't mean it's the truth. Oh and be warned ........ Nicholas Nesbitt, partner at accountants Forvis Mazars, reckons Reeves will slap inheritance tax (IHT) on unused pensions. Personally, I think that's a shoo-in. He thinks she'll go further warning: "The government may look to tighten rules on gifting money away for IHT purposes, perhaps by taxing gifts over a certain size, or introducing a lifetime limit of gifts." And I reckon there's a chance Reeves could scrap the £175,000 main residence allowance, which applies when passing on the family home to children or grandchildren. Who is your lot then ? Reform ?
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Post by Count de Stockport on Aug 27, 2024 13:40:57 GMT
Your lot have left us in a mess ffs. 1% pay rises for 10+ years and now it's catch-up time. It's been stated that working people will not suffer tax rises. More right wing misinformation. Your lot? Get your facts right nelly. I voted against the conservatives at the last election. The current Labour government regime have been shambolic, starting with the cancelling of a much needed mine up in Cumbria (on day one !) then Reeves subsequent attack on the pensioners winter fuel benefit. I see that she's not attacked the MP's generous benefits packages that includes heating amongst other things. Double standards. And this 22 Billion pound black hole that she and Starmer constantly moan about, repeating it 24x7 multiple times a day doesn't mean it's the truth. Oh and be warned ........ Nicholas Nesbitt, partner at accountants Forvis Mazars, reckons Reeves will slap inheritance tax (IHT) on unused pensions. Personally, I think that's a shoo-in. He thinks she'll go further warning: "The government may look to tighten rules on gifting money away for IHT purposes, perhaps by taxing gifts over a certain size, or introducing a lifetime limit of gifts." And I reckon there's a chance Reeves could scrap the £175,000 main residence allowance, which applies when passing on the family home to children or grandchildren. Look at you, crying like a little snowflake again
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Post by nelly on Aug 27, 2024 13:43:26 GMT
Your lot? Get your facts right nelly. I voted against the conservatives at the last election. The current Labour government regime have been shambolic, starting with the cancelling of a much needed mine up in Cumbria (on day one !) then Reeves subsequent attack on the pensioners winter fuel benefit. I see that she's not attacked the MP's generous benefits packages that includes heating amongst other things. Double standards. And this 22 Billion pound black hole that she and Starmer constantly moan about, repeating it 24x7 multiple times a day doesn't mean it's the truth. Oh and be warned ........ Nicholas Nesbitt, partner at accountants Forvis Mazars, reckons Reeves will slap inheritance tax (IHT) on unused pensions. Personally, I think that's a shoo-in. He thinks she'll go further warning: "The government may look to tighten rules on gifting money away for IHT purposes, perhaps by taxing gifts over a certain size, or introducing a lifetime limit of gifts." And I reckon there's a chance Reeves could scrap the £175,000 main residence allowance, which applies when passing on the family home to children or grandchildren. Who is your lot then ? Reform ? You call this board an echo chamber. I call it a common sense chamber.
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Post by suedehead on Aug 27, 2024 13:44:04 GMT
It didn't take them long to go back on their promises :-( The government's claims of a £22bn "black hole" left by the Tories have been questioned following substantial pay awards to unions - including to both junior doctors and train drivers. From Sky News ..... Laura Trott, the Conservatives' shadow chief secretary to the Treasury, said: "The government are no longer promising to protect working people from their incoming tax raid because just like pensioners, working families are next in line for Labour's tax hikes. "After promising over 50 times in the election not to raise taxes on working people Labour are now rolling the pitch to break even more promises. "The chancellor is entitled to raise taxes to pay for her expensive choices and above inflation pay rises demanded by her union paymasters, but she should have had the courage to be honest from the start. "This a betrayal of people's trust and we will hold them to account for their actions." Do you not find it just a little bit ironic quoting a Tory who is talking about 'betrayal of trust' after everything her party did since 2010? It's a simple question, so a simple answer would do. I don't need comparisons or what abouts.
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Post by suedehead on Aug 27, 2024 13:44:56 GMT
Your lot? Get your facts right nelly. I voted against the conservatives at the last election. The current Labour government regime have been shambolic, starting with the cancelling of a much needed mine up in Cumbria (on day one !) then Reeves subsequent attack on the pensioners winter fuel benefit. I see that she's not attacked the MP's generous benefits packages that includes heating amongst other things. Double standards. And this 22 Billion pound black hole that she and Starmer constantly moan about, repeating it 24x7 multiple times a day doesn't mean it's the truth. Oh and be warned ........ Nicholas Nesbitt, partner at accountants Forvis Mazars, reckons Reeves will slap inheritance tax (IHT) on unused pensions. Personally, I think that's a shoo-in. He thinks she'll go further warning: "The government may look to tighten rules on gifting money away for IHT purposes, perhaps by taxing gifts over a certain size, or introducing a lifetime limit of gifts." And I reckon there's a chance Reeves could scrap the £175,000 main residence allowance, which applies when passing on the family home to children or grandchildren. Who is your lot then ? Reform ? Yep. He's a fan of Nigel.
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Post by suedehead on Aug 27, 2024 13:46:03 GMT
Sounds like something out of the Profanisaurus.
'You'll have to excuse our dad, he's a fan of Nigel'.
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Post by tvor on Aug 27, 2024 13:46:07 GMT
Your lot? Get your facts right nelly. I voted against the conservatives at the last election. The current Labour government regime have been shambolic, starting with the cancelling of a much needed mine up in Cumbria (on day one !) then Reeves subsequent attack on the pensioners winter fuel benefit. I see that she's not attacked the MP's generous benefits packages that includes heating amongst other things. Double standards. And this 22 Billion pound black hole that she and Starmer constantly moan about, repeating it 24x7 multiple times a day doesn't mean it's the truth. Oh and be warned ........ Nicholas Nesbitt, partner at accountants Forvis Mazars, reckons Reeves will slap inheritance tax (IHT) on unused pensions. Personally, I think that's a shoo-in. He thinks she'll go further warning: "The government may look to tighten rules on gifting money away for IHT purposes, perhaps by taxing gifts over a certain size, or introducing a lifetime limit of gifts." And I reckon there's a chance Reeves could scrap the £175,000 main residence allowance, which applies when passing on the family home to children or grandchildren. Look at you, crying like a little snowflake again Very adult response. Not. I am concerned that everything that I have worked hard for over the years is fair game for the Government to tax. It's there for my children and grandchildren to benefit from when I'm not here to look after them. Not sure what your problem is.
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