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Post by herbiedumplings on Aug 23, 2024 18:33:21 GMT
Hmm. Raises as many questions as it answers, IMO. For sure. That's a quote from the article you shared though I swear I didn’t see it when I posted the link. Probably didn’t read it properly, mind…
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Post by Mozzer on Aug 23, 2024 18:35:49 GMT
Seen plenty of ToBs, including the recent women's tour. Very different to the Tour de France when that came to Yorkshire. Roads were closed for a good while before the riders, support vehicles and caravan come through. I went to Woodhead for that and the roads were car free for nearly two hours before even the first bits of the caravan came through dispensing tat. I've been at the top of some ToB climbs and general traffic was still coming through 15mins before the lead police motorbikes. For the women's tour I think it was even less than that!
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Post by bigmartin on Aug 23, 2024 18:37:20 GMT
20mph change is proving to be effective, on the basis of early results. This doesn't help with the 'optics' though. Acknowledging that road closures for events like this tend to be 'rolling road', rather than full and lengthy closures, the vast majority of support vehicles will still be through a town/village with the race and if they're not, then should be adhering to the speed limit anyway. Welsh government doesn't appear to have helped anyone here, including themselves. Well they are actually altering some roads back to the old speed limits so at least they are showing some sense. Just wonder if anyone else on here has tried driving at 20 mph when its quiet in a 30 zone and see how difficult it actually is if you want to fully concentrate on everything else around you. Gears are your friend...
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Post by hedleyverity on Aug 23, 2024 19:22:52 GMT
When the Tour of Britain has come through Hazel Grove in the past few years the fastest moving vehicles are all the police motorbikes closing off the roads and they certainly exceed the usual 30mph limit. To be honest it's interesting just watching the logistics of closing off all those roads from traffic to let the race through. It's been through the Saddleworth villages, it's a fascinating event! From the first police bike to the last race support vehicle actually takes a while, but the race itself, it's gone in a flash and quite a draft! The Tout de France was about 5 hours of build up for 2 minutes of racing
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Post by hedleyverity on Aug 23, 2024 19:23:52 GMT
It's been through the Saddleworth villages, it's a fascinating event! From the first police bike to the last race support vehicle actually takes a while, but the race itself, it's gone in a flash and quite a draft! The Tout de France was about 5 hours of build up for 2 minutes of racing If it had been the Tout de France it might have taken a bit longer
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Post by herbiedumplings on Aug 23, 2024 20:21:23 GMT
The Tout de France was about 5 hours of build up for 2 minutes of racing If it had been the Tout de France it might have taken a bit longer And that is why this place can’t be beat!
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Post by stalybridgehatter on Aug 23, 2024 20:58:45 GMT
The Tout de France was about 5 hours of build up for 2 minutes of racing If it had been the Tout de France it might have taken a bit longer Not if it was tout suite!
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Post by herbiedumplings on Aug 23, 2024 21:34:53 GMT
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Post by edjelley on Aug 24, 2024 16:18:49 GMT
Similar to why anyone who is Christian would vote for him, inescapable conclusion just seems to be that an awful lot of people are very, very, stupid Not sure about that. Most Christians are utter hypocrites in my experience. Good job we don't have any over sensitive Christians on this board!
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Post by bigmartin on Aug 24, 2024 17:03:36 GMT
Not sure about that. Most Christians are utter hypocrites in my experience. Good job we don't have any over sensitive Christians on this board! "In my experience"...
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Post by timberwolf on Aug 25, 2024 9:00:58 GMT
Seen plenty of ToBs, including the recent women's tour. Very different to the Tour de France when that came to Yorkshire. Roads were closed for a good while before the riders, support vehicles and caravan come through. I went to Woodhead for that and the roads were car free for nearly two hours before even the first bits of the caravan came through dispensing tat. I've been at the top of some ToB climbs and general traffic was still coming through 15mins before the lead police motorbikes. For the women's tour I think it was even less than that! It past the end of our road. It was shut for all traffic at 7am and not opened up till near 6pm. The race with all the entourage past just after 1pm. Why that should be so different from what the ToB seems to be i,ll never know.
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Post by herbiedumplings on Aug 26, 2024 7:50:15 GMT
Dear Tories: Do you really think a temporary pass for No. 10 for a Labour Peer is the same as billions in PPE contracts?
I mean, I know Nanny always used to say “Two wrongs don’t make a right,” but seriously? You’re claiming parity?
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Post by timberwolf on Aug 26, 2024 9:09:30 GMT
Dear Tories: Do you really think a temporary pass for No. 10 for a Labour Peer is the same as billions in PPE contracts? I mean, I know Nanny always used to say “Two wrongs don’t make a right,” but seriously? You’re claiming parity? So labour can never do any wrong then if every wrong has to be compared to the wrongs of the tory party every single time.
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Post by herbiedumplings on Aug 26, 2024 9:34:10 GMT
Dear Tories: Do you really think a temporary pass for No. 10 for a Labour Peer is the same as billions in PPE contracts? I mean, I know Nanny always used to say “Two wrongs don’t make a right,” but seriously? You’re claiming parity? So labour can never do any wrong then if every wrong has to be compared to the wrongs of the tory party every single time. It’s not even clear there has been any impropriety, but logs and motes anyway IMO. It’s like Peter Sutcliffe calling out our “EVF” kids for being violent.
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Post by vicar on Aug 26, 2024 9:54:10 GMT
Dear Tories: Do you really think a temporary pass for No. 10 for a Labour Peer is the same as billions in PPE contracts? I mean, I know Nanny always used to say “Two wrongs don’t make a right,” but seriously? You’re claiming parity? So labour can never do any wrong then if every wrong has to be compared to the wrongs of the tory party every single time. I don't like it because it is cronyism but it's really not comparable to the contracts dished out to tory donors, it was a temporary pass to attend the celebration reception, I'd expect party donors to be there, he is actually a Lord so he's a member of the upper house so he'll be fully briefed and signed up to all the security and secrecy procedures.
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