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Post by Stranded Hatter on Sept 9, 2024 16:26:35 GMT
Charlie Mullins. Another of these “entrepreneurs” who wants to make money off other people’s efforts without all the hassle of giving them employment rights. www.supremecourt.uk/cases/docs/uksc-2017-0053-judgment.pdfIf this government makes the UK a “hostile environment” for that kind of person, I’m all for it. I'm not saying whether I like him or not or the way how he conducts his business affairs. At the end of the day if customers asked him to do work they must have been happy. Similarly, the people who decided that they wanted to work for him did so of their own volition. I don't think their are any laws in the UK that force people to work for others. However the main point for the original post was that he will be one of many taking their money out of the country at a huge cost to the Government. Maybe a smarter move would have been to see if there was any common ground for these mega rich people to stay in the UK and put millions each year into our system rather than ridiculing them and sending them on their way. View AttachmentThe mega rich don’t put into the system. Every penny they acquire and scurry away is money being taken out of the system. You and I are the ones who put in. With every hour we work and every penny we spend.
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Post by vicar on Sept 9, 2024 16:45:35 GMT
Charlie Mullins. Another of these “entrepreneurs” who wants to make money off other people’s efforts without all the hassle of giving them employment rights. www.supremecourt.uk/cases/docs/uksc-2017-0053-judgment.pdfIf this government makes the UK a “hostile environment” for that kind of person, I’m all for it. I'm not saying whether I like him or not or the way how he conducts his business affairs. At the end of the day if customers asked him to do work they must have been happy. Similarly, the people who decided that they wanted to work for him did so of their own volition. I don't think their are any laws in the UK that force people to work for others. However the main point for the original post was that he will be one of many taking their money out of the country at a huge cost to the Government. Maybe a smarter move would have been to see if there was any common ground for these mega rich people to stay in the UK and put millions each year into our system rather than ridiculing them and sending them on their way. View AttachmentHe'll be taxed much more in Spain, he'll be a loss the the plastic surgery industry but that's about it, he's an absolute tw@.
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Post by Stranded Hatter on Sept 9, 2024 16:59:03 GMT
Entirely different matter. I recently had to change the address on my driving licence. My new one is definitely on a flimsier plastic than my old one. A Brexit benefit?
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Post by canterbury on Sept 9, 2024 17:34:21 GMT
However the main point for the original post was that he will be one of many taking their money out of the country at a huge cost to the Government. You've been fooled here by the standard millionaire bluff. A mere 27 years since Andrew Lloyd-Webber's pledge to leave the UK if Blair was elected, he's still not got round to it yet. Frank Bruno also insisted in 1997 he'd leave. Paul Daniels was definitely going to do it, but procrastinated for so long he died. And to his credit Jim Davidson actually did bugger off, although we still had to suffer him for seven more years.
People who parrot right wing think tanks would like you to believe rich Brits' lives are highly flexible, but that does not reconcile with reality. A network of friends and family, ties to the local community, kids settled in school, lifelong memories tied to the place you live, a spouse that doesn't want to live abroad, as a few examples where the financial savings are often not worth it when set against the opportunity cost of the things you realise are enriching your quality of life.
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Post by hedleyverity on Sept 9, 2024 17:47:30 GMT
Charlie Mullins. Another of these “entrepreneurs” who wants to make money off other people’s efforts without all the hassle of giving them employment rights. www.supremecourt.uk/cases/docs/uksc-2017-0053-judgment.pdfIf this government makes the UK a “hostile environment” for that kind of person, I’m all for it. I'm not saying whether I like him or not or the way how he conducts his business affairs. At the end of the day if customers asked him to do work they must have been happy. Similarly, the people who decided that they wanted to work for him did so of their own volition. I don't think their are any laws in the UK that force people to work for others. However the main point for the original post was that he will be one of many taking their money out of the country at a huge cost to the Government. Maybe a smarter move would have been to see if there was any common ground for these mega rich people to stay in the UK and put millions each year into our system rather than ridiculing them and sending them on their way. View AttachmentHow many? At what cost? What's the overall loss/ gain to the government?
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Post by herbiedumplings on Sept 9, 2024 18:08:33 GMT
I'm not saying whether I like him or not or the way how he conducts his business affairs. At the end of the day if customers asked him to do work they must have been happy. Similarly, the people who decided that they wanted to work for him did so of their own volition. I don't think their are any laws in the UK that force people to work for others. However the main point for the original post was that he will be one of many taking their money out of the country at a huge cost to the Government. Maybe a smarter move would have been to see if there was any common ground for these mega rich people to stay in the UK and put millions each year into our system rather than ridiculing them and sending them on their way. View AttachmentHow many? At what cost? What's the overall loss/ gain to the government? *on the Truss/Kwarteng scale.
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Post by canterbury on Sept 9, 2024 18:15:14 GMT
I'm not saying whether I like him or not or the way how he conducts his business affairs. At the end of the day if customers asked him to do work they must have been happy. Similarly, the people who decided that they wanted to work for him did so of their own volition. I don't think their are any laws in the UK that force people to work for others. However the main point for the original post was that he will be one of many taking their money out of the country at a huge cost to the Government. Maybe a smarter move would have been to see if there was any common ground for these mega rich people to stay in the UK and put millions each year into our system rather than ridiculing them and sending them on their way. View AttachmentHow many? At what cost? What's the overall loss/ gain to the government?
It's a pittance when put in perspective.
Inheritance tax on the plumber's property would be £4,700,000.
The mess left by the Tory Party is a national debt of £2,700,000,000,000.
For every £1 of problem this guy's causing to the Chancellor, she has £580,000 worth of problems inherited from the hapless Conservative government.
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Post by nelly on Sept 9, 2024 18:16:24 GMT
However the main point for the original post was that he will be one of many taking their money out of the country at a huge cost to the Government. You've been fooled here by the standard millionaire bluff. A mere 27 years since Andrew Lloyd-Webber's pledge to leave the UK if Blair was elected, he's still not got round to it yet. Frank Bruno also insisted in 1997 he'd leave. Paul Daniels was definitely going to do it, but procrastinated for so long he died. And to his credit Jim Davidson actually did bugger off, although we still had to suffer him for seven more years.
People who parrot right wing think tanks would like you to believe rich Brits' lives are highly flexible, but that does not reconcile with reality. A network of friends and family, ties to the local community, kids settled in school, lifelong memories tied to the place you live, a spouse that doesn't want to live abroad, as a few examples where the financial savings are often not worth it when set against the opportunity cost of the things you realise are enriching your quality of life. Phil Collins threatened to bugger off if Labour got in once too. Wouldn't miss him at all. w*nker.
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Post by nelly on Sept 9, 2024 18:20:09 GMT
I'm not saying whether I like him or not or the way how he conducts his business affairs. At the end of the day if customers asked him to do work they must have been happy. Similarly, the people who decided that they wanted to work for him did so of their own volition. I don't think their are any laws in the UK that force people to work for others. However the main point for the original post was that he will be one of many taking their money out of the country at a huge cost to the Government. Maybe a smarter move would have been to see if there was any common ground for these mega rich people to stay in the UK and put millions each year into our system rather than ridiculing them and sending them on their way. View AttachmentHe'll be taxed much more in Spain, he'll be a loss the the plastic surgery industry but that's about it, he's an absolute tw@. Fake Rod Stewart.
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Post by herbiedumplings on Sept 9, 2024 19:45:47 GMT
He'll be taxed much more in Spain, he'll be a loss the the plastic surgery industry but that's about it, he's an absolute tw@. Fake Rod Stewart. Fraud Stewart?
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Post by vicar on Sept 9, 2024 20:50:06 GMT
However the main point for the original post was that he will be one of many taking their money out of the country at a huge cost to the Government. You've been fooled here by the standard millionaire bluff. A mere 27 years since Andrew Lloyd-Webber's pledge to leave the UK if Blair was elected, he's still not got round to it yet. Frank Bruno also insisted in 1997 he'd leave. Paul Daniels was definitely going to do it, but procrastinated for so long he died. And to his credit Jim Davidson actually did bugger off, although we still had to suffer him for seven more years.
People who parrot right wing think tanks would like you to believe rich Brits' lives are highly flexible, but that does not reconcile with reality. A network of friends and family, ties to the local community, kids settled in school, lifelong memories tied to the place you live, a spouse that doesn't want to live abroad, as a few examples where the financial savings are often not worth it when set against the opportunity cost of the things you realise are enriching your quality of life. Loads of these divs avoid tax by setting up companies in places around the world with low tax rates anyway, they're all maggots.
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Post by Count de Stockport on Sept 9, 2024 20:57:13 GMT
I'm not saying whether I like him or not or the way how he conducts his business affairs. At the end of the day if customers asked him to do work they must have been happy. Similarly, the people who decided that they wanted to work for him did so of their own volition. I don't think their are any laws in the UK that force people to work for others. However the main point for the original post was that he will be one of many taking their money out of the country at a huge cost to the Government. Maybe a smarter move would have been to see if there was any common ground for these mega rich people to stay in the UK and put millions each year into our system rather than ridiculing them and sending them on their way. View AttachmentThe mega rich don’t put into the system. Every penny they acquire and scurry away is money being taken out of the system. You and I are the ones who put in. With every hour we work and every penny we spend. Remember when Alan Sugar boasted on Twitter about how the taxes he’d paid that year were enough to build a hospital? Not that he’d paid the same proportion of his wealth as the likes of us, of course Also: I don’t recall that the tax he paid was used to build a hospital
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Post by badgersc on Sept 9, 2024 22:58:01 GMT
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Post by Stranded Hatter on Sept 10, 2024 1:11:46 GMT
I don't really understand that tbh. If I wasn't paying the tax I owe each year I'm certain I'd be punished for it. If these figures are accurate then why I aren't they going after those businesses? If they aren't then how are they working it out? This all reads like those are sums of money HMRC knows they're owed but they don't receive. I don't understand how that can be the case. I'd be getting very angry letters very quickly and then (I assume) a court summons.
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Post by herbiedumplings on Sept 10, 2024 6:32:00 GMT
I don't really understand that tbh. If I wasn't paying the tax I owe each year I'm certain I'd be punished for it. If these figures are accurate then why I aren't they going after those businesses? If they aren't then how are they working it out? This all reads like those are sums of money HMRC knows they're owed but they don't receive. I don't understand how that can be the case. I'd be getting very angry letters very quickly and then (I assume) a court summons. The underlying narrative is that HMRC believes it’s been cut back so much over the years that it can’t collect the tax it’s owed. Much the same as the rest of the public sector that’s now no longer deemed to be mission-capable. It’s a different issue to tax policies that allow those with the most to keep the most, however.
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