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Post by herbiedumplings on Sept 13, 2024 7:32:47 GMT
There are plenty of stupid people of every age group. If you want to find create a video of people disproportionately demonstrating stupidity then you just have to conduct vox pops and then selectively edit. Something people on both ends of the political spectrum are fans of doing to be clear. I set a monthly quiz for the over 50,s group i belong to. All are over 60 and feel the average young person could put them to shame. I set them on the knowledge i have and just think of myself as an average bloke and not a mastermind contender. However even explaining the questions is hard work and getting some to understand that in this weeks quiz all the answers had to start and finish with a letter A was harder than getting a ticket for a County game. Even got once answer to an egyptian city being cairo and i thought my spelling was crap. Aspidistra, right?
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Post by Mozzer on Sept 13, 2024 7:45:54 GMT
Did people say Pimlico plumbers bloke sharing his views was a bad thing? Or did people just take him to task for being an exploitative arsehole and for complaining about inheritance tax when he’s super wealthy? He’s more than welcome to share his views, and we’re all more than welcome to take him to task for them. As people are welcome to criticise Taylor Swift for hers, although I guess since most of us agree that not voting for Donald Trump would be the wiser course of action I doubt most of us would take her to task for that? Again it shows what people say depends on if you agree with them or not to judge them and not what they actually say. If pimlico supported starmer and swift pro trump both would be looked at in a completely different light on here and other pro left boards. Everyone deserves a point of view but each point of view is no more important than anyones unless you are in power to change things. Swift is in a position to change things. Because whether you like it or not, her views influence some people. Same as Jeremy Clarkson. Or Julia Hartley-Brewer. None of these people have any great insight though some people treat them as if they do. But they do have influence. I think this board (whether it's 'pro left' or not) has acknowledged they all have the right to say what they want to say within the law. It's a statement of the obvious that you're more likely to agree with people coming from the same perspective. But let's remember that the singer could buy the plumber at least 10 times over, so their respective wealth isn't an issue.
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Post by Count de Stockport on Sept 13, 2024 7:50:13 GMT
It’s not a good look and I'm hoping the £12,500 tax threshold rises but I'm not expecting it, I still couldn't make out what he said. Interesting development in that the FT submitted a FoI request about the details of the £22bn black hole and the treasury have refused it. I didn’t know government/civil service could refuse FoI requests..?
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Post by Mozzer on Sept 13, 2024 7:57:47 GMT
All sorts of exemptions (cost, GDPR, vexatious, commercial confidentiality, etc.) though not sure what reason they could give here. If you've already worked out the number, you can't reasonably say the cost/time to work it out is excessive, for example. The FT should have been told why though, because you can't just refuse it without a reason.
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Post by desmond on Sept 13, 2024 8:07:54 GMT
All sorts of exemptions (cost, GDPR, vexatious, commercial confidentiality, etc.) though not sure what reason they could give here. If you've already worked out the number, you can't reasonably say the cost/time to work it out is excessive, for example. The FT should have been told why though, because you can't just refuse it without a reason. Bit more digging, as ever thinks look a little different if you dig deeper. Seems the rejected request was more around a portion of the total (around £8.6bn) which is “unallocated” and identified as “general reserve spending”. The FT wanted a more detailed breakdown which was rejected as the treasury say they need/ed more time to ensure accuracy.
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Post by mattyovrio on Sept 13, 2024 8:54:16 GMT
Did people say Pimlico plumbers bloke sharing his views was a bad thing? Or did people just take him to task for being an exploitative arsehole and for complaining about inheritance tax when he’s super wealthy? He’s more than welcome to share his views, and we’re all more than welcome to take him to task for them. As people are welcome to criticise Taylor Swift for hers, although I guess since most of us agree that not voting for Donald Trump would be the wiser course of action I doubt most of us would take her to task for that? Again it shows what people say depends on if you agree with them or not to judge them and not what they actually say. If pimlico supported starmer and swift pro trump both would be looked at in a completely different light on here and other pro left boards. Everyone deserves a point of view but each point of view is no more important than anyones unless you are in power to change things. It depends what you mean by the word important. Some people’s views are very influential. Taylor Swift is one such person because of the devoted followers she has. Pimlico Plumber a lot less so in terms of the impact it will have on the number of votes cast and for whom. Everyone is entitled to their viewpoint and I can’t think of anyone on here who would say otherwise.
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Post by mattyovrio on Sept 13, 2024 8:54:44 GMT
I set a monthly quiz for the over 50,s group i belong to. All are over 60 and feel the average young person could put them to shame. I set them on the knowledge i have and just think of myself as an average bloke and not a mastermind contender. However even explaining the questions is hard work and getting some to understand that in this weeks quiz all the answers had to start and finish with a letter A was harder than getting a ticket for a County game. Even got once answer to an egyptian city being cairo and i thought my spelling was crap. Aspidistra, right? Australia!
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Post by mattyovrio on Sept 13, 2024 9:02:06 GMT
All sorts of exemptions (cost, GDPR, vexatious, commercial confidentiality, etc.) though not sure what reason they could give here. If you've already worked out the number, you can't reasonably say the cost/time to work it out is excessive, for example. The FT should have been told why though, because you can't just refuse it without a reason. Bit more digging, as ever thinks look a little different if you dig deeper. Seems the rejected request was more around a portion of the total (around £8.6bn) which is “unallocated” and identified as “general reserve spending”. The FT wanted a more detailed breakdown which was rejected as the treasury say they need/ed more time to ensure accuracy. Always good to ask for proof of what our politicos are saying. Starmer’s three point strategic focus for renewing and improving the NHS is focusing on the right areas but will require massive investment to be more than just a sound bite. Where is the money going to come from? Taxes on stuff that make us unhealthy as a nation I would suggest: diesel, petrol, fags, alcohol, junk food, sugar and also on wealth. To effect massive change (and it is needed at scale) it will take massive investment. I hope they do it. They could start tackling the obesity and child poverty problems by providing feee nutritious school meal for breakfast and lunch. They should also have physical activity / sport for the kids daily - if not at the start of the morning and afternoon sessions. Ridiculous how much NHS resource is being taken up with obesity/type 2 diabetes amongst the young. Prevention much better and cheaper than cure/managing chronic conditions.
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Post by vicar on Sept 13, 2024 9:02:13 GMT
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Post by sidcup on Sept 13, 2024 9:03:37 GMT
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Post by timberwolf on Sept 13, 2024 9:11:44 GMT
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Post by mattyovrio on Sept 13, 2024 9:13:04 GMT
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Post by desmond on Sept 13, 2024 9:16:49 GMT
Bit more digging, as ever thinks look a little different if you dig deeper. Seems the rejected request was more around a portion of the total (around £8.6bn) which is “unallocated” and identified as “general reserve spending”. The FT wanted a more detailed breakdown which was rejected as the treasury say they need/ed more time to ensure accuracy. Always good to ask for proof of what our politicos are saying. Starmer’s three point strategic focus for renewing and improving the NHS is focusing on the right areas but will require massive investment to be more than just a sound bite. Where is the money going to come from? Taxes on stuff that make us unhealthy as a nation I would suggest: diesel, petrol, fags, alcohol, junk food, sugar and also on wealth. To effect massive change (and it is needed at scale) it will take massive investment. I hope they do it. They could start tackling the obesity and child poverty problems by providing feee nutritious school meal for breakfast and lunch. They should also have physical activity / sport for the kids daily - if not at the start of the morning and afternoon sessions. Ridiculous how much NHS resource is being taken up with obesity/type 2 diabetes amongst the young. Prevention much better and cheaper than cure/managing chronic conditions. No more money apparently though without major reform, with Streeting in charge and his mate Milburn close by it will be interesting to see what those reforms look like and where the money goes.
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Post by timberwolf on Sept 13, 2024 9:17:25 GMT
Always good to ask for proof of what our politicos are saying. Starmer’s three point strategic focus for renewing and improving the NHS is focusing on the right areas but will require massive investment to be more than just a sound bite. Where is the money going to come from? Taxes on stuff that make us unhealthy as a nation I would suggest: diesel, petrol, fags, alcohol, junk food, sugar and also on wealth. To effect massive change (and it is needed at scale) it will take massive investment. I hope they do it. They could start tackling the obesity and child poverty problems by providing feee nutritious school meal for breakfast and lunch. They should also have physical activity / sport for the kids daily - if not at the start of the morning and afternoon sessions. Ridiculous how much NHS resource is being taken up with obesity/type 2 diabetes amongst the young. Prevention much better and cheaper than cure/managing chronic conditions. This was never a problem for the generation who have lost their winter fuel payments with the lifestyle and food we had as kids. Its not exactly we had organised sports to play daily or lived with modern so called healthy diets thrown at us.
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Post by desmond on Sept 13, 2024 9:18:10 GMT
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