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Post by tvor on Jul 22, 2024 7:13:39 GMT
68% of people voted for progressive parties in the three Stockport constituencies, so why is it starkly at odds with the general tone of this place? The majority of people of views on here tend to be progressive, but there is nothing to stop anyone with an right of centre opinion posting. There isn't. And it's great when they do. But what snowflakes they all seem to be just because there's push back. I thought it was woke lefties like me who were meant to be mard-arses but every time one of our right leaning friends post they seem to mandatorily post with a pithy insult on the conduct of the board. The tone on this board is very good. I don't see too many personal attacks. And when there is it's always a two way thing.LMAO Just make sure you don't prod or disagree with a member of the resident communist clique.
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Post by mattyovrio on Jul 22, 2024 7:23:37 GMT
Given that Harris used to be a prosecutor, how great would it be to see her debate a convicted felon? I don't see Trump agreeing to another debate, though. I can see hitherto undetected deafness due to the helix of his ear being nicked by a bullet being used as an excuse to avoid anything unscripted between now and the election. If they can keep Trump under control, no doubt they will go risk free to avoid a debate. There will be a lot of illegitimate candidate nonsense no doubt. I am sure the Trump ego will find it difficult to resist though. if the top Democrats thought there was a decent chance of beating Trump, I doubt they’d be lining up to endorse Harris. I wonder how ready to hit the ground running she is. Starmer and Labour were better prepared than Sunak’s Tories for the last election, even though Sunak chose a date out of the blue. If her camp and Democrats are as well prepared as Starmer’s Labour, then they might give Trump a run for his money. Can’t see past a Trump easy win though.
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Post by tvor on Jul 22, 2024 7:29:47 GMT
Wes Streeting seeks to end UK junior doctors strike as Labour declares war on NHS(Tony Robson 9 July 2024) The incoming Labour government’s health secretary, Wes Streeting, called in the leaders of the British Medical Association (BMA) junior doctors committee (JDC) for talks today to end the long-running dispute over the demand for pay restoration— a 35 percent rise to reverse fifteen-years of below inflation awards.
The determination to restore pay for frontline medics who constitute around a half of the National Health Service (NHS) workforce in England has been at the centre of a battle with the Conservative government since March 2023. The 40,000 junior doctors in the BMA voted to renew their industrial action two months ago on a mandate of 98 percent, and staged their eleventh round of strike action in the run up to the general election with a five-day stoppage between June 27 and July 2. * * * * * And the offer coming from the new Government? 21 July 2024 The chancellor has hinted that she may give public sector workers above-inflation pay rises this summer. Rachel Reeves' comments come after it is understood independent pay review bodies recommended an increase of 5.5% for teachers and some NHS workers.
In her first interview from No 11 Downing Street, she said: "I really value public service workers, in our schools, in our hospitals, in our police as well...
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Post by vicar on Jul 22, 2024 7:36:53 GMT
View AttachmentWes Streeting seeks to end UK junior doctors strike as Labour declares war on NHS(Tony Robson 9 July 2024) The incoming Labour government’s health secretary, Wes Streeting, called in the leaders of the British Medical Association (BMA) junior doctors committee (JDC) for talks today to end the long-running dispute over the demand for pay restoration— a 35 percent rise to reverse fifteen-years of below inflation awards.
The determination to restore pay for frontline medics who constitute around a half of the National Health Service (NHS) workforce in England has been at the centre of a battle with the Conservative government since March 2023. The 40,000 junior doctors in the BMA voted to renew their industrial action two months ago on a mandate of 98 percent, and staged their eleventh round of strike action in the run up to the general election with a five-day stoppage between June 27 and July 2. * * * * * And the offer coming from the new Government? 21 July 2024 The chancellor has hinted that she may give public sector workers above-inflation pay rises this summer. Rachel Reeves' comments come after it is understood independent pay review bodies recommended an increase of 5.5% for teachers and some NHS workers.
In her first interview from No 11 Downing Street, she said: "I really value public service workers, in our schools, in our hospitals, in our police as well... Clear this up for me are you posting a positive story about our new government?
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Post by tvor on Jul 22, 2024 7:37:43 GMT
In that regard, I thought Willie Piccie Wragg would have been an OK MP even though I didn’t vote for him. And he was to begin with. Then he went all Brexity, which was acceptable enough because it was what people voted for. Then COVID happened and he went after Boris over Partygate even though he was anti-Lockdown himself. Hypocrisy is pretty unforgivable in my book - although he hardly showered himself in glory at the end by doxxing his mates rather than admitting he’d been sexting someone he met on a dating app. A Tory caught with their trousers down. Well I never. Wragg is a spineless slime ball.
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Post by herbiedumplings on Jul 22, 2024 7:38:53 GMT
View AttachmentWes Streeting seeks to end UK junior doctors strike as Labour declares war on NHS(Tony Robson 9 July 2024) The incoming Labour government’s health secretary, Wes Streeting, called in the leaders of the British Medical Association (BMA) junior doctors committee (JDC) for talks today to end the long-running dispute over the demand for pay restoration— a 35 percent rise to reverse fifteen-years of below inflation awards.
The determination to restore pay for frontline medics who constitute around a half of the National Health Service (NHS) workforce in England has been at the centre of a battle with the Conservative government since March 2023. The 40,000 junior doctors in the BMA voted to renew their industrial action two months ago on a mandate of 98 percent, and staged their eleventh round of strike action in the run up to the general election with a five-day stoppage between June 27 and July 2. * * * * * And the offer coming from the new Government? 21 July 2024 The chancellor has hinted that she may give public sector workers above-inflation pay rises this summer. Rachel Reeves' comments come after it is understood independent pay review bodies recommended an increase of 5.5% for teachers and some NHS workers.
In her first interview from No 11 Downing Street, she said: "I really value public service workers, in our schools, in our hospitals, in our police as well... Tony who?
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Post by Bilby on Jul 22, 2024 7:45:13 GMT
Biden pulls out of election Probably for the best. Damn! I was really looking forward to a reality remake of 'Weekend at Bernie's'
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Post by tvor on Jul 22, 2024 7:53:03 GMT
View AttachmentWes Streeting seeks to end UK junior doctors strike as Labour declares war on NHS(Tony Robson 9 July 2024) The incoming Labour government’s health secretary, Wes Streeting, called in the leaders of the British Medical Association (BMA) junior doctors committee (JDC) for talks today to end the long-running dispute over the demand for pay restoration— a 35 percent rise to reverse fifteen-years of below inflation awards.
The determination to restore pay for frontline medics who constitute around a half of the National Health Service (NHS) workforce in England has been at the centre of a battle with the Conservative government since March 2023. The 40,000 junior doctors in the BMA voted to renew their industrial action two months ago on a mandate of 98 percent, and staged their eleventh round of strike action in the run up to the general election with a five-day stoppage between June 27 and July 2. * * * * * And the offer coming from the new Government? 21 July 2024 The chancellor has hinted that she may give public sector workers above-inflation pay rises this summer. Rachel Reeves' comments come after it is understood independent pay review bodies recommended an increase of 5.5% for teachers and some NHS workers.
In her first interview from No 11 Downing Street, she said: "I really value public service workers, in our schools, in our hospitals, in our police as well... Clear this up for me are you posting a positive story about our new government? Anything positive from whatever Government would get my support. I'm clearly not as extreme as several of the posters on here who only ever see things as black or white. I quite enjoy taking the piss and watching them swallow the ground bait before they post a full on rant. As for today, my time here may well be limited. I'm just waiting for my 3 year old granddaughter to arrive. I'm looking forward to a day of reasoned discussion, ideas, and complex negotiation, and a bit of give and take about the location of my secret biscuit and crisp store and what time it will be open.
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Post by hedleyverity on Jul 22, 2024 7:55:55 GMT
bigmartin, Labour have been in power less than two weeks, not a month! mreckless, we've seen some very positive moves in resetting the relationship with Europe. The Tories were always trying to fight a war with EU countries, but now we've got a grown up who is looking to work together as a partner. I think that has been recognised. I think setting up an asylum centre in Calais would be a good start. It would open up a safe and legal option for genuine asylum seekers, that we have a legal and moral obligation to help. It would also send a clear message to anyone that was looking to cross the channel in small boat, that they have no genuine need to take that route, no need to risk their life taking and illegal route - unless they are an economic migrant, who would have their claim rejected. I think this would enable the government to deal with claims made by anyone who crosses in a small boat in a completely different manner, allowing the claim to be processed much faster and most likely rejected. The long term solution is to re-join the EU and apply the Dublin Convention, so economic migrants could be returned to the first safe EU country, which is where they should be applying for asylum.
Yes, that would be an existing member of the EU - FRANCE. And what do they do, point them in our direction PDQ. Time to put put a few hundred British soldiers back on the Normandy beaches with authority to stop boats leaving by whatever force is required. Well we could do, but it’s the Calais area they’re setting out from, so it wouldn’t be a fat lot of use
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Post by Nik on Jul 22, 2024 8:00:33 GMT
bigmartin, Labour have been in power less than two weeks, not a month! mreckless, we've seen some very positive moves in resetting the relationship with Europe. The Tories were always trying to fight a war with EU countries, but now we've got a grown up who is looking to work together as a partner. I think that has been recognised. I think setting up an asylum centre in Calais would be a good start. It would open up a safe and legal option for genuine asylum seekers, that we have a legal and moral obligation to help. It would also send a clear message to anyone that was looking to cross the channel in small boat, that they have no genuine need to take that route, no need to risk their life taking and illegal route - unless they are an economic migrant, who would have their claim rejected. I think this would enable the government to deal with claims made by anyone who crosses in a small boat in a completely different manner, allowing the claim to be processed much faster and most likely rejected. The long term solution is to re-join the EU and apply the Dublin Convention, so economic migrants could be returned to the first safe EU country, which is where they should be applying for asylum.
Yes, that would be an existing member of the EU - FRANCE. And what do they do, point them in our direction PDQ. Time to put put a few hundred British soldiers back on the Normandy beaches with authority to stop boats leaving by whatever force is required. Just to establish what you're saying, does that force involve injuring or potentially killing them? Just checking before we decide who here holds the 'extreme' views.
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Post by hedleyverity on Jul 22, 2024 8:11:18 GMT
Yes, that would be an existing member of the EU - FRANCE. And what do they do, point them in our direction PDQ. Time to put put a few hundred British soldiers back on the Normandy beaches with authority to stop boats leaving by whatever force is required. Just to establish what you're saying, does that force involve injuring or potentially killing them? Just checking before we decide who here holds the 'extreme' views. Sadly wokeness is so deep in the Army that shooting unarmed civilians was considered bad form the last 2 times we were in France never mind now.
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Post by vicar on Jul 22, 2024 8:33:10 GMT
Clear this up for me are you posting a positive story about our new government? Anything positive from whatever Government would get my support. I'm clearly not as extreme as several of the posters on here who only ever see things as black or white. I quite enjoy taking the piss and watching them swallow the ground bait before they post a full on rant. As for today, my time here may well be limited. I'm just waiting for my 3 year old granddaughter to arrive. I'm looking forward to a day of reasoned discussion, ideas, and complex negotiation, and a bit of give and take about the location of my secret biscuit and crisp store and what time it will be open. So it was a thumbs up to Labour for negotiating like grown ups rather than just giving soundbites to the press, your granddaughter will have those snacks off you before the negotiations are under way, have a good day.
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Post by Nik on Jul 22, 2024 8:42:33 GMT
I quite enjoy taking the piss and watching them swallow the ground bait before they post a full on rant. Never a truer image to illustrate what actually happens when you 'take the piss'
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Post by HTC on Jul 22, 2024 9:16:55 GMT
Given that Harris used to be a prosecutor, how great would it be to see her debate a convicted felon? I don't see Trump agreeing to another debate, though. I can see hitherto undetected deafness due to the helix of his ear being nicked by a bullet being used as an excuse to avoid anything unscripted between now and the election. not going to happen.
Trump now has the same weakness Biden had in terms of being a very old man. They aren't going to go anywhere near something that can be framed in terms of physical decline.
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Post by herbiedumplings on Jul 22, 2024 9:57:45 GMT
I can see hitherto undetected deafness due to the helix of his ear being nicked by a bullet being used as an excuse to avoid anything unscripted between now and the election. not going to happen.
Trump now has the same weakness Biden had in terms of being a very old man. They aren't going to go anywhere near something that can be framed in terms of physical decline.
You’re missing my point: it wouldn’t be age-related deafness preventing him from answering difficult questions; it would be murderous domestic terrorist-related deafness…
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