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Post by stalybridgehatter on Jul 23, 2024 16:28:35 GMT
And how about this one, which is dwarfing all other Tory waste. She (Yvette Cooper) warned that the cost of the “indefinitely rising” asylum backlog in hotel and accommodation support bills was “astronomical”, telling MPs: “The potential costs of asylum support over the next four years, if we continue down this track, could be an eye-watering £30bn to £40bn – that is double the annual police budget for England and Wales.” In her statement in the Commons, Cooper blasted the Conservative government’s “unworkable” Illegal Migration Act, which was introduced in March 2023 and cost the taxpayer billions by putting asylum seekers who arrived in the UK in a state of limbo. She said “legal contradictions” in the act created a situation akin to “Hotel California – people arrive in the asylum system and they never leave”, because no decisions could be taken on the cases of asylum seekers who arrived after March 2023 and met certain conditions. www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/jul/22/failed-rwanda-deportation-scheme-cost-700m-says-yvette-cooperStop handing benefits to them, check them out of three and four star hotels and book them into camp sites. Turn their wi-fi off. They will soon be looking for cheap ferries back to France. "Turn their WiFi off" "They will soon be looking for cheap ferries to France" What, on Teletext?
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Post by herbiedumplings on Jul 23, 2024 16:30:03 GMT
it's definitely a bit of an echo chamber.
In real life, I'm a pretty standard issue soft left economically / liberal, but not progressive culturally in political terms. On this thread, I'm one of the further right of the regular posters.
Problem is whenever an actual right winger turns up, they either (a) post a few times, but then take their leave from the thread, as it's not much fun being the only one making one side of the argument, or (b) are fundamentally incapable of having thoughts of their own or engaging in any sort of debate, and just post shit memes they've seen, making 'pwning the libs' their goal as if they were a 15 year old American edgelord.
I'd love a few more from group (a), but it would need to be 4 or 5 posters to make it work.
Well, they're here, so all they have to do is post constructively. Not helping?
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Post by hedleyverity on Jul 23, 2024 16:43:51 GMT
Stop handing benefits to them, check them out of three and four star hotels and book them into camp sites. Turn their wi-fi off. They will soon be looking for cheap ferries back to France. "Turn their WiFi off" "They will soon be looking for cheap ferries to France" What, on Teletext? Ceefax, once Binface gets in
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Post by mustafapoint on Jul 23, 2024 16:46:16 GMT
Minitel, mes amis.
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Post by herbiedumplings on Jul 23, 2024 16:50:19 GMT
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Post by hedleyverity on Jul 23, 2024 17:05:50 GMT
Another example how it wasn't really politics that did for the Tories, it was competence
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Post by Stranded Hatter on Jul 23, 2024 17:14:17 GMT
I doubt very much Jason would be offered much more than the going rate. The middle-man/woman, however…They'd all get snouts in the trough else Jason wouldn't do it. And believe you me...he'd do it...for a price (kidding. He's a really good bloke. Alfie Best, next door on the big holiday park on the other hand...) I have a mutual acquaintance with Alfie Best, yeah……. sucks teeth
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Post by Stranded Hatter on Jul 23, 2024 17:22:50 GMT
There are lots of reasons the national debt has increased, it’s increased without the country going bankrupt, therefore Gordon Brown did not leave the country on the brink of bankruptcy. Interesting reality, only something acknowledged by the right wing when conservatives are in control - the UK cannot go bankrupt. It’s the reason I am against us joining the Euro, and by extension rejoining the EU.
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Post by bigmartin on Jul 23, 2024 17:28:47 GMT
They'd all get snouts in the trough else Jason wouldn't do it. And believe you me...he'd do it...for a price (kidding. He's a really good bloke. Alfie Best, next door on the big holiday park on the other hand...) I have a mutual acquaintance with Alfie Best, yeah……. sucks teethYou can't leave that there! I hear the odd horror story from guys in statics nearby. One even stuck two fingers up to him and he and about twenty guys physically rolled his static across the lane onto our camp site . Didn't see any of that on the Undercover Bosses programme shrug... I used to have a bucket list item which was to one day upgrade our touring caravan to a static then I signed up to a 'buyer beware' type FB page, with over 40,000 members - many of whom had been scammed over the years by the unregulated static caravan industry. If there ever was an industry that desperately needs regulation... The idea is now 'ex bucket list'. I do hope you are not amongst the numbers of people who have been shafted mate...
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Post by Stranded Hatter on Jul 23, 2024 17:31:59 GMT
I have a mutual acquaintance with Alfie Best, yeah……. sucks teethYou can't leave that there! I hear the odd horror story from guys in statics nearby. One even stuck two fingers up to him and he and about twenty guys physically rolled his static across the lane onto our camp site . Didn't see any of that on the Undercover Bosses programme shrug... I used to have a bucket list item which was to one day upgrade our touring caravan to a static then I signed up to a 'buyer beware' type FB page, with over 40,000 members - many of whom had been scammed over the years by the unregulated static caravan industry. If there ever was an industry that desperately needs regulation... The idea is now 'ex bucket list'. I do hope you are not amongst the numbers of people who have been shafted mate... I don’t have any particular stories to tell. Just recollection of conversations where I’ve had to bite my tongue to avoid getting on the wrong side of people. And no, I’ve not been shafted.
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Post by herbiedumplings on Jul 23, 2024 17:35:27 GMT
Interesting reality, only something acknowledged by the right wing when conservatives are in control - the UK cannot go bankrupt. It’s the reason I am against us joining the Euro, and by extension rejoining the EU. Norway+ as we were promised at the time will be fine, thanks. Whenever you’re ready…
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Post by vicar on Jul 23, 2024 18:26:23 GMT
Interesting reality, only something acknowledged by the right wing when conservatives are in control - the UK cannot go bankrupt. It’s the reason I am against us joining the Euro, and by extension rejoining the EU. Why can we not go bankrupt, personally I'd be in favour of joining the euro but you suggest that would leave us in a more vulnerable position.
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Post by Mozzer on Jul 23, 2024 18:30:13 GMT
It’s the reason I am against us joining the Euro, and by extension rejoining the EU. Norway+ as we were promised at the time will be fine. Still waiting… You've had your unicorn. Shut up.
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Post by bigmartin on Jul 23, 2024 20:18:02 GMT
It’s the reason I am against us joining the Euro, and by extension rejoining the EU. Why can we not go bankrupt, personally I'd be in favour of joining the euro but you suggest that would leave us in a more vulnerable position. If you print your own money you can never go bankrupt except by choice. Inflation is what happens. The Weimar Republic for example didn't go de-facto bankrupt. Wheelbarrows of money, where the barrow's worth more than the money in it and all that. A country, unlike a business, doesn't necessarily lose its land, it's people, it's assets and so forth even if it defaults on its sovereign debt. So even if it does go into sovereign debt bankruptcy the country will still survive (eg. Iceland). If we joined the Euro, we COULD go bankrupt. Because the EU control the currency we use. It's what happened with Greece.
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Post by Count de Stockport on Jul 23, 2024 20:26:11 GMT
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