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Post by bigmartin on Jul 27, 2024 23:26:04 GMT
CCTV footage now out in the public domain showing the lead up to the incident which was shared of the copper kicking the lad The guy who ended up being kicked has to face charges after seeing that. Totally intrigued. How do you arrive at that? Genuinely, because I'm looking at a situation where the police seem to escalate a situation which they almost instantaneously seem incapable of controlling. Also. What a f*cking scrapper that guy is. Literally knocks six bells out of pretty much everyone in the video until they use a taser to knock him down. They should recruit him...
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Post by desmond on Jul 27, 2024 23:37:52 GMT
The guy who ended up being kicked has to face charges after seeing that. Totally intrigued. How do you arrive at that? Genuinely, because I'm looking at a situation where the police seem to escalate a situation which they almost instantaneously seem incapable of controlling. Also. What a f*cking scrapper that guy is. Literally knocks six bells out of pretty much everyone in the video until they use a taser to knock him down. They should recruit him... If you don’t think he’s guilty of assault after seeing that I honestly can’t say anything to convince you. One thing to add though, it now seems that this is possibly the 3rd incident that took place at the airport on that evening which apparently involves the same family. One incident on or leaving a Quatar flight and another fight at the Starbucks in T2. Edit. Knocking 6 bells out of a female PC is hardly something to be proud of.
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Post by bigmartin on Jul 28, 2024 0:59:09 GMT
Totally intrigued. How do you arrive at that? Genuinely, because I'm looking at a situation where the police seem to escalate a situation which they almost instantaneously seem incapable of controlling. Also. What a f*cking scrapper that guy is. Literally knocks six bells out of pretty much everyone in the video until they use a taser to knock him down. They should recruit him... If you don’t think he’s guilty of assault after seeing that I honestly can’t say anything to convince you. One thing to add though, it now seems that this is possibly the 3rd incident that took place at the airport on that evening which apparently involves the same family. One incident on or leaving a Quatar flight and another fight at the Starbucks in T2. Edit. Knocking 6 bells out of a female PC is hardly something to be proud of. You're patently biased mate with the utmost of respect. I just don't know. Something goes down up close and personal and he comes out swinging. I've looked on super slow mo and I'm absolutely convinced the cop threw the first hook. I could've course be totally wrong. He might be guilty of assault, he might be guilty of self-defence. He might be guilty of reacting from something said to him. I'd want to see what that cop said or did up close to him. I've personally been a victim of over-enthusiastic policing and, whilst I have the utmost respect for the police, I've also seen the other side. Still. If he's then been tasered and had his head stamped on the ground that seems excessive to me. But the video is inconclusive. Don't even know why I'm getting involved to be honest all said and done. Late, had a drink, bit bored. Probably wish I hadn't bothered.
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Post by timberwolf on Jul 28, 2024 7:29:41 GMT
Another big march and meeting in london yesterday by the patriots. Can see where they are coming from but it loses my interest and respect when its run and organised by tommy robinson. Feel many normal patriots are being used by this man for his own advantage. In the same way i feel those on the left who want peace in the middle east are also being used by hammas supporters to push their cause.
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Post by Mozzer on Jul 28, 2024 7:56:52 GMT
They're racists. If you follow Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, you're a far right fanboy/girl. It can be dressed up as it's wanted, but his actions betray him.
I don't think many people who follow him don't know what he's up to - there are other groups out there portraying patriotism to cover for basic xenophobia and racism. Still, SY-L might find himself inside in fairly short order.
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Post by vicar on Jul 28, 2024 8:07:20 GMT
Another big march and meeting in london yesterday by the patriots. Can see where they are coming from but it loses my interest and respect when its run and organised by tommy robinson. Feel many normal patriots are being used by this man for his own advantage. In the same way i feel those on the left who want peace in the middle east are also being used by hammas supporters to push their cause. I consider myself patriotic and I'll be watching the Olympics where we've got a chance but I can't see where they're coming from, it just looks like a load of football lads having a get together.
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Post by hedleyverity on Jul 28, 2024 8:33:25 GMT
They're racists. If you follow Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, you're a far right fanboy/girl. It can be dressed up as it's wanted, but his actions betray him. I don't think many people who follow up don't know what he's up to - there are other groups out there portraying patriotism to cover for basic xenophobia and racism. Still, SY-L might find himself inside in fairly short order. His nose has been put out of joint by Reform getting all the racists attention, yesterday was all about getting himself locked up, good for the attention seekers ego, good for the bank balance.
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Post by Count de Stockport on Jul 28, 2024 8:36:46 GMT
Another big march and meeting in london yesterday by the patriots. Can see where they are coming from but it loses my interest and respect when its run and organised by tommy robinson. Feel many normal patriots are being used by this man for his own advantage. In the same way i feel those on the left who want peace in the middle east are also being used by hammas supporters to push their cause. ‘Stop the genocide’ =/= ‘We support Hamas’ Like, even the relatives of hostages still held by Hamas are condemning Netanyahu’s insistence on prolonging the conflict
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Post by Count de Stockport on Jul 28, 2024 8:37:31 GMT
Another big march and meeting in london yesterday by the patriots. Can see where they are coming from but it loses my interest and respect when its run and organised by tommy robinson. Feel many normal patriots are being used by this man for his own advantage. In the same way i feel those on the left who want peace in the middle east are also being used by hammas supporters to push their cause. it just looks like a load of football lads having a get together. Always has been
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Post by timberwolf on Jul 28, 2024 9:03:38 GMT
Still think those at the rally were a broad church who are being used by the far right to promote their racist feelings. Be better for many of those attending to ditch all involvement with robinson and have their own rally where he and his co horts are told they are not wanted. Too easy for them to be tarred with the same brush or the lowest common denomenator present. Was farage and his 4 other MP there and if not why. I,m sure they were nowhere to be seen at the previous one so that must tell a story itself.
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Post by herbiedumplings on Jul 28, 2024 9:12:40 GMT
Still think those at the rally were a broad church who are being used by the far right to promote their racist feelings. Be better for many of those attending to ditch all involvement with robinson and have their own rally where he and his co horts are told they are not wanted. Too easy for them to be tarred with the same brush or the lowest common denomenator present. Was farage and his 4 other MP there and if not why. I,m sure they were nowhere to be seen at the previous one so that must tell a story itself. Farage “couldn’t make it.” He knows he can’t afford to be personally associated with that kind, but also knows he can’t afford politically not to be.
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Post by timberwolf on Jul 28, 2024 9:34:44 GMT
Still think those at the rally were a broad church who are being used by the far right to promote their racist feelings. Be better for many of those attending to ditch all involvement with robinson and have their own rally where he and his co horts are told they are not wanted. Too easy for them to be tarred with the same brush or the lowest common denomenator present. Was farage and his 4 other MP there and if not why. I,m sure they were nowhere to be seen at the previous one so that must tell a story itself. Farage “couldn’t make it.” He knows he can’t afford to be personally associated with that kind, but also knows he can’t afford politically not to be. I,d guess there were others from the right who could not make it either who do not want involvement with the far right. Just in the same way people who consider themselves as left wing do not want to be used by the far left for their own ends. One thing we do not want to happen is those with the average views of the left or right being forced into a corner where those of views much more far than them is their only place to go for them.
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Post by vicar on Jul 28, 2024 10:29:11 GMT
Still think those at the rally were a broad church who are being used by the far right to promote their racist feelings. Be better for many of those attending to ditch all involvement with robinson and have their own rally where he and his co horts are told they are not wanted. Too easy for them to be tarred with the same brush or the lowest common denomenator present. Was farage and his 4 other MP there and if not why. I,m sure they were nowhere to be seen at the previous one so that must tell a story itself. What were they protesting about?
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Post by herbiedumplings on Jul 28, 2024 10:47:11 GMT
Still think those at the rally were a broad church who are being used by the far right to promote their racist feelings. Be better for many of those attending to ditch all involvement with robinson and have their own rally where he and his co horts are told they are not wanted. Too easy for them to be tarred with the same brush or the lowest common denomenator present. Was farage and his 4 other MP there and if not why. I,m sure they were nowhere to be seen at the previous one so that must tell a story itself. What were they protesting about? Immigration and “patriotism”.
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Post by timberwolf on Jul 28, 2024 10:50:44 GMT
Still think those at the rally were a broad church who are being used by the far right to promote their racist feelings. Be better for many of those attending to ditch all involvement with robinson and have their own rally where he and his co horts are told they are not wanted. Too easy for them to be tarred with the same brush or the lowest common denomenator present. Was farage and his 4 other MP there and if not why. I,m sure they were nowhere to be seen at the previous one so that must tell a story itself. What were they protesting about? More or less wanting their country back as they want it. Free speech, Two tier policing and uncontrolled mass immigration and its affects on the country. They do have there points but many will disagree but should never be all classed as racists even if the organisers were. Can understand the flustrations of people if their views refuse to be heard and just simply put down to racism and little englanders. The MSM does not help by the lack of publicity they get surrounding this when other factions get more of it that they deserve.
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