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Post by Bilby on Aug 1, 2024 0:17:18 GMT
Huw Edwards' next door neighbour was a Muslim apparently. And Edwards was an immigrant who moved to England from Wales too
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Post by Durango95 on Aug 1, 2024 1:08:30 GMT
This Country is why I drink heavily. It’s f*cked.
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Post by oldroader on Aug 1, 2024 6:48:42 GMT
Is that the same Gary Stopforth who was an economic migrant to Australia? Can't be!
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Post by Nik on Aug 1, 2024 11:01:42 GMT
State of these absolute idiots Apparently that same bloke Wants to riot for the protection of children but not to protect his own family, it would seem.
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Post by canterbury on Aug 1, 2024 12:39:11 GMT
I don't normally like to bay for people being locked up for a long time but we have seen the precedent is 4 and 5 year sentences for planning a peaceful protest on a zoom call, so his part in this riot should see him incarcerated for years, plus whatever for the alleged domestic abuse.
Personally I feel it would be more apt to jail him for a few months and reduce the JSO people's sentences down to something proportionate.
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Post by Count de Stockport on Aug 1, 2024 13:28:28 GMT
Apparently that same bloke Wants to riot for the protection of children but not to protect his own family, it would seem. He looked way older than 39
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Post by sidcup on Aug 1, 2024 13:41:58 GMT
Apparently that same bloke Wants to riot for the protection of children but not to protect his own family, it would seem. He looked way older than 39 It probably wasn't his first brick to the head.
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Post by Fez on Aug 1, 2024 15:22:45 GMT
It's the re-invigoration that I'd hoped for. Biden's advantage until recently had been that he could beat Trump (again), but that platform began to wobble too much. The Democrats had to take a swing, and the timing was spot on. Mrs. Fez has an idea that this had been planned for a while, and Biden's insistence in the past month or so that he would continue as candidate was a smokescreen. They were waiting until after the Republican National Conference and installation of the lunatic JD Vance as VP candidate. Nothing against old dudes - well, plenty against Trump, but you know what I mean - but the American public has become wearied with a gerontocratic slugfest at the top. Harris is a tonic but faces a vitriolic opposition. Most of this is true but my concern with Harris was she was a bit too “Hilary”, more than any of the stuff going on around it. I was very unimpressed with her when she ran for the candidacy in 2020 and her legal background never seemed to come through in debates or on the stump. My fear was it felt too much like Hilary Clinton in 2016 with it being “her turn”. However, the noises from her camp have given me cause for cautious optimism, the types of political commentators in America I usually see as an accurate barometer on these matters are fully behind her and even early (very early) polling is promising. Harris does align more with the Democratic base (and even a lot of their Congresspeople) than Biden does while being enough of a centrist to not scare the swing voters (whoever is left). The idea that it was the plan all along is a nice one, but credible sources have spoken on Biden feeling betrayed by Obama and Pelosi and that he was forced into this position. He even moved to endorse Harris to prevent them installing one of their preferred candidates - who have mostly said they weren’t interested. I would also say that to say that platform (that Biden could beat Trump) had begun to wobble is an understatement. Biden was going to lose and it’s been clear for a couple of months now. Harris could win. I hope she does. I'm not sure that I see the direct comparisons with Hillary Clinton. As VP it's not unreasonable for Kamala Harris to expect a crack at the Presidency, whereas it felt that Clinton had a sense of smug entitlement (fueled by the DNC) and became too self-assured (to the extent of shooting the Ds in the foot with her insults towards the opposition - "Deplorables" and so forth). Although, agreed, Harris has not particularly shone in the past (and has been given too little exposure imo), she's making a good fist of things at the moment. The 'wobble' was a somewhat deliberate understatement. :-) Biden would indeed have lost, and I was fiercely hoping that he would step aside (although he is still more acute, capable and comprehensible than the Orange Mussolini). And Mrs. Fez's hypothesis was certainly a bit tongue in cheek and fanciful. However, when the inevitability became apparent, I feel that it's still possible that the Democrats just held off until after the RNC. So the short-term planning was nicely timed.
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Post by mattyovrio on Aug 1, 2024 15:27:35 GMT
DT is old news. Think he would have beaten hands down but all of a sudden it is a different ball game.
DT only has one club in his bag. So he plays the same shot every time. Would have worked with Biden but think he and his band of ne’er do wells have been thrown. Democrats are ruthless like our Tory Party. Tou look like a loser - you are toast!
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Post by Fez on Aug 1, 2024 15:48:37 GMT
DT is old news. Think he would have beaten hands down but all of a sudden it is a different ball game. DT only has one club in his bag. So he plays the same shot every time. Would have worked with Biden but think he and his band of ne’er do wells have been thrown. Democrats are ruthless like our Tory Party. Tou look like a loser - you are toast! They needed to find their edge. Republican strategists, donors and operatives have generally been more ruthless and, to put it politely, cunning. Nice golf analogy re DT. Sadly, too many still see him as a 'winner' and some gross sort of 'saviour' of an America that only exists in their minds.
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Post by Stranded Hatter on Aug 1, 2024 17:29:56 GMT
DT is old news. Think he would have beaten hands down but all of a sudden it is a different ball game. DT only has one club in his bag. So he plays the same shot every time. Would have worked with Biden but think he and his band of ne’er do wells have been thrown. Democrats are ruthless like our Tory Party. Tou look like a loser - you are toast! They needed to find their edge. Republican strategists, donors and operatives have generally been more ruthless and, to put it politely, cunning. Nice golf analogy re DT. Sadly, too many still see him as a 'winner' and some gross sort of 'saviour' of an America that only exists in their minds. Yeah I’m not sure I’d have referred to the Democrats as ruthless before
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Post by Imposter on Aug 1, 2024 18:12:38 GMT
He looked way older than 39 It probably wasn't his first brick to the head. Maybe not. But he's no Ashley Palmer.
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Post by vicar on Aug 1, 2024 18:14:33 GMT
It probably wasn't his first brick to the head. Maybe not. But he's no Ashley Palmer. Ash never got one to the eggs like that though.
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Post by Imposter on Aug 1, 2024 18:21:26 GMT
Maybe not. But he's no Ashley Palmer. Ash never got one to the eggs like that though. What Ashley Palmer gets up to in the privacy of his own home...etc...
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Post by mattyovrio on Aug 1, 2024 18:38:47 GMT
They needed to find their edge. Republican strategists, donors and operatives have generally been more ruthless and, to put it politely, cunning. Nice golf analogy re DT. Sadly, too many still see him as a 'winner' and some gross sort of 'saviour' of an America that only exists in their minds. Yeah I’m not sure I’d have referred to the Democrats as ruthless before They were with JB. Not averse to ditching a dynasty either. am seeing a reversal of roles after many years….look at Labour v Tories. There was a time when Labour would have preferred an argument amongst themselves to defeating the common enemy. feels like the right here and in US is down that particular rabbit hole.
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