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Post by mattyovrio on Sept 20, 2024 17:19:19 GMT
I tend to find that religionists find something in their religion to support their opinion on a moral matter. So a god said homosexuality is a sin. Also a god said we should love all others and that we are all created equally. So, take your pick to suit your morality. Your god's given you an out whatever you want to believe, which is nice of it/him/her. Right and wrong I'd say. There are plenty who operate in the manner you state. But also plenty who's belief systems are very complex. I know I grew up knowing a gentleman (the Vicar of Mottram, who became the Canon of Nantwich - my best friend at school's dad) who was not remotely like the picture you paint. In fact he very rarely shared ANY religious views for example, including when he married me (first time around) all the time knowing that I was very outspokenly AGAINST the religion he was marrying me in the church of (because I was an opinionated teenager who never shirked at telling him). He was complex in a very good way. You could also look towards people like Richard Coles for other, good, examples. You haven’t mellowed BM - good for you!
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Post by Count de Stockport on Sept 20, 2024 17:56:03 GMT
Isn’t Finnish one of those languages, like Basque, that bares very little relation to any others? Uralic family group, which includes Hungarian, Estonian, various minority languages Basque is like literally nothing else AFAIK
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Post by HTC on Sept 20, 2024 18:32:23 GMT
Isn’t Finnish one of those languages, like Basque, that bares very little relation to any others? Uralic family group, which includes Hungarian, Estonian, various minority languages Basque is like literally nothing else AFAIK yep, basque is one of a handful of languages with no known links to any other. Ainu (the original inhabitants of Japan) is another, and I think there are a few Australian Aboriginal examples too from memory.
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Post by bigmartin on Sept 20, 2024 18:59:17 GMT
Right and wrong I'd say. There are plenty who operate in the manner you state. But also plenty whose belief systems are very complex. I know I grew up knowing a gentleman (the Vicar of Mottram, who became the Canon of Nantwich - my best friend at school's dad) who was not remotely like the picture you paint. In fact he very rarely shared ANY religious views for example, including when he married me (first time around) all the time knowing that I was very outspokenly AGAINST the religion he was marrying me in the church of (because I was an opinionated teenager who never shirked at telling him). He was complex in a very good way. You could also look towards people like Richard Coles for other, good, examples. You married a vicar twice ? 😀 This is why we can't have nice things . Trying to think how I ought to have said that. "Including when I was married by him" I guess. Damn
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Post by bigmartin on Sept 20, 2024 19:01:33 GMT
Have just finished The Coming Storm on BBc Sounds - wow - what a great series of pois facets - well worth a listen as goes through the origins of 6Jan and Q Anon. 4 Chan and 8 Chan John Wickes society and all sorts. Eye opening. A must for anyone interested in how conspiracy theories spread. Against All Enemies was, I found very watchable, if you're interested in this kind of programming...
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Post by mustafapoint on Sept 20, 2024 19:11:32 GMT
Uralic family group, which includes Hungarian, Estonian, various minority languages Basque is like literally nothing else AFAIK yep, basque is one of a handful of languages with no known links to any other. Ainu (the original inhabitants of Japan) is another, and I think there are a few Australian Aboriginal examples too from memory. I was once told a joke in Spanish, translated which says that the Devil tried learning the Basque language, but gave up after two years as it was too difficult. BTW do you remember when we played Athletic Bilbao in a friendly in the 90s and we welcomed them in Basque in the programme with 'Ongi Etorri'? Now, I wonder who contacted the club to give them this Basque welcome? eskerrik asko
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Post by Count de Stockport on Sept 20, 2024 19:14:01 GMT
Uralic family group, which includes Hungarian, Estonian, various minority languages Basque is like literally nothing else AFAIK yep, basque is one of a handful of languages with no known links to any other. Ainu (the original inhabitants of Japan) is another, and I think there are a few Australian Aboriginal examples too from memory. I just read it’s considered the last remnant of a pre-Indo-European European language. Very cool!
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Post by mustafapoint on Sept 20, 2024 19:16:17 GMT
Isn’t Finnish one of those languages, like Basque, that bares very little relation to any others? Say what you like about Scandinavians, but they make great dishwasher products. The best dishwasher tablets are Finnish.
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Post by mustafapoint on Sept 20, 2024 19:19:29 GMT
yep, basque is one of a handful of languages with no known links to any other. Ainu (the original inhabitants of Japan) is another, and I think there are a few Australian Aboriginal examples too from memory. I just read it’s considered the last remnant of a pre-Indo-European European language. Very cool! As part of my German degree, I had to study the History of the German Language, which also involved looking at the routes of Indo-Germanic and Indo-European languages. This might be of interest. cdn.ecml.at/EDL/language-journey/language-tree/language-tree-EN.pdf
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