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Post by countybumpkin on Sept 19, 2021 10:26:59 GMT
Having a DOF is fine so long as his role is clearly defined. Manager says I need a left sided centre back, DOF says 'here's three options - which do you want'. Or starts lining up junior squad members to bring through over the next x years. That's grand. Now I don't know is whether that's what is happening, but if it is, Rusk doesn't seem able to build a properly balanced team / squad from that. In his previous role that wasn't necessarily his priority - so the imbalance in the squad may stem from that. At the same time, he doesn't know how to get the best out of players like those we have now - either tactically, or performance wise. The players we have should be turning out better performances than they are - there's no hiding from that. The system doesn't work, and we seemingly don't have anything else. Having a style of play seemingly centred completely around Quigley with no back up for him just seems bonkers. If things aren't happening as above, then you'd have to hope we'd bring in an experienced manager who makes clear from day one where the lines are drawn. Wilson has acheived some good off the pitch with the set up... but he shouldn't be someone we're even bothered about as a fanbase in my view. He should sit in the background, and be a tool for the manager. With the manager we have seemingly being so lost, and having come in when he did/ in the circumstances he did, Wilson is front and centre. Wilson says that what you describe in the first paragraph is how it works and like you seeing how awful Rusk is at seemingly every part of management at this level I can well imagine him not realising what we needed in terms of attributes and position this summer especially as he admits he still doesn’t know what’s wrong. Ultimately though Rusk was 100 per cent Wilson’s hire and to be convinced that he was right man after speaking with him at length is bewildering given we’ve all seen probably about 100 interviews with him since he’s arrived and he’s never convinced me in even one of them that he’s got a clue. All he’d have to say to convince him would be, “Yes, I’ll implement your methods”. And he has. And it hasn’t worked because neither of them are football managers.
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Post by ancienthatter on Sept 19, 2021 10:30:09 GMT
The first step is to move Rusk on. They can do that tomorrow. The sooner the better. Yes, I understand I’m saying a family man should lose his job. But he’ll get a big enough pay off to sort himself out. Stott should realise that every minute this guy stays we are pissing our future down a grid.
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Post by m14hatter on Sept 19, 2021 10:31:12 GMT
I’d love that but i just can’t see it happening under Stott and Wilson. There are other managers who will be able to bring us success. Just find the right one. Yeah, there are, absolutely. I always said Jim wouldn’t be with us forever for one reason or another, the key was finding someone who could take us up a step after him. Rusk evidently can’t do that. But if we were Wrexham, or Chesterfield, or Notts, and were looking to sack our manager, Jim would be someone we’d be keen on. . Agree with every word you’ve put and it highlights the stupidity of the decision. But don’t agree that Gannon would be someone Notts or Wrexham etc would choose. They were both looking for managers after Jim left us and appointed other people. I think the mud unfortunately sticks from his time at Vale and the view that he’s too outspoken.
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Post by wnm on Sept 19, 2021 11:11:47 GMT
Yeah, there are, absolutely. I always said Jim wouldn’t be with us forever for one reason or another, the key was finding someone who could take us up a step after him. Rusk evidently can’t do that. But if we were Wrexham, or Chesterfield, or Notts, and were looking to sack our manager, Jim would be someone we’d be keen on. . Agree with every word you’ve put and it highlights the stupidity of the decision. But don’t agree that Gannon would be someone Notts or Wrexham etc would choose. They were both looking for managers after Jim left us and appointed other people. I think the mud unfortunately sticks from his time at Vale and the view that he’s too outspoken. This! He’s at Hyde for a reason the same way he was Northwich before coming to us last time. His reputation here and reputation in the game as a whole are polar opposites.
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Post by Fallowfield Hatter on Sept 19, 2021 11:17:03 GMT
Agree with every word you’ve put and it highlights the stupidity of the decision. But don’t agree that Gannon would be someone Notts or Wrexham etc would choose. They were both looking for managers after Jim left us and appointed other people. I think the mud unfortunately sticks from his time at Vale and the view that he’s too outspoken. This! He’s at Hyde for a reason the same way he was Northwich before coming to us last time. His reputation here and reputation in the game as a whole are polar opposites. He's at Hyde because he was specifically looking for a PT managerial job that he could do in conjunction with his day job.
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Post by timberwolf on Sept 19, 2021 11:18:18 GMT
Just get Jim back and let’s stop pissing about. Stott could make it happen if he wanted to. I’d love that but i just can’t see it happening under Stott and Wilson. There are other managers who will be able to bring us success. Just find the right one. We as a club are not very good at bringing a new manager in. Actually danny was our last appointment who brought success to us who were not either at the club, dave jones, or an ex player then ex manager jim gannon. Not bad going in over 30 years of football.
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Post by alkringtonhatter on Sept 19, 2021 11:22:49 GMT
I completely understand calls for Wilson to go, but hear me out on this - the squad he has assembled should be capable of a lot more than this, and the responsibility for that is squarely on the shoulders of Rusk. I cannot believe that a more experienced manager with tactical versatility and a more keenly developed sense of how to manage each game as it plays out wouldn’t be able to get a tune out of them. A more experienced manager like Walrus McGhee, you mean? No, certainly not. But I think you knew that.
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Post by m14hatter on Sept 19, 2021 11:24:11 GMT
I’d love that but i just can’t see it happening under Stott and Wilson. There are other managers who will be able to bring us success. Just find the right one. We as a club are not very good at bringing a new manager in. Actually danny was our last appointment who brought success to us who were not either at the club, dave jones, or an ex player then ex manager jim gannon. Not bad going in over 30 years of football. Megson did the job he was brought in to do by keeping us in the Championship. But agree we have a poor track record of appointments!
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Post by leicesterhatter on Sept 19, 2021 11:27:15 GMT
Jim went 9 months ago. Doesn’t do anyone any good to keep harking back to it. He’s moved on as have we. So I don’t think there’s any value at all in Wilson talking about that decision. It would just reopen old wounds. And I suspect no matter what was said, fans would criticise him for it. So it’s pointless. Much better just talk about what’s happened with Rusk and what he’s going to do to find the right person this time. Just get Jim back and let’s stop pissing about. Stott could make it happen if he wanted to. Unless Jim had literally no interest in coming back, which I reckon is highly likely.
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Post by Count de Stockport on Sept 19, 2021 11:27:38 GMT
A more experienced manager like Walrus McGhee, you mean? No, certainly not. But I think you knew that. Yeh sorry, I wasn’t on the WUM there. My point was more at his expense given that he’s meant to be here to lend his decades of managerial experience to our fledgling manager, and yet here we are 🤷🏻♂️ Get rid of them both
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Post by herbiedumplings on Sept 19, 2021 11:33:36 GMT
Gannon isn’t likely to return and to keep bringing it up, isn’t going to help. Stott and Wilson now need to find someone who can take us up. There are plenty of candidates who will be able to bring success to the club. TBF, if whoever it ends up being does a decent job then JG won’t get mentioned much. Which isn’t the same as saying he’ll be forgotten; just not brought up all the time!
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Post by alkringtonhatter on Sept 19, 2021 11:34:25 GMT
No, certainly not. But I think you knew that. Yeh sorry, I wasn’t on the WUM there. My point was more at his expense given that he’s meant to be here to lend his decades of managerial experience to our fledgling manager, and yet here we are 🤷🏻♂️ Get rid of them both Yep, couldn’t agree more. Whenever he’s supposed to be bringing, either isn’t helping, or is getting tuned out. Suspect the former. Get rid.
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Post by wnm on Sept 19, 2021 11:38:12 GMT
This! He’s at Hyde for a reason the same way he was Northwich before coming to us last time. His reputation here and reputation in the game as a whole are polar opposites. He's at Hyde because he was specifically looking for a PT managerial job that he could do in conjunction with his day job. And he needs that to fit in with his day job because nobody will offer him a full time job as a first team manager.
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Post by Fallowfield Hatter on Sept 19, 2021 11:39:44 GMT
He's at Hyde because he was specifically looking for a PT managerial job that he could do in conjunction with his day job. And he needs that to fit in with his day job because nobody will offer him a full time job as a first team manager. . You should probably have read his NLP interview, it'd save a lot of embarrassing speculation.
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Post by Count de Stockport on Sept 19, 2021 11:41:14 GMT
And he needs that to fit in with his day job because nobody will offer him a full time job as a first team manager. . You should probably have read his NLP interview, it'd save a lot of embarrassing speculation. We’ll never know for sure why Jim was sacked but we certainly know why he isn’t full-time 😶
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