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Post by timberwolf on Jun 18, 2024 9:30:59 GMT
Its easy to know why that is. They have made themselves disliked and will get teams giving it a bit more when they play them. Possibly they might have been promoted if they weer less high profile. the new non league Wrexham, albeit without the money? Yes, once i classed macc as alty who played in blue. Now there seems a world of a difference both on and off the pitch.
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Post by fenedgeexile on Jun 24, 2024 22:06:05 GMT
Southend's struggles are continuing - the National League has asked them to post a £1m bond because they are concerned about the club's "ability to fulfil its financial obligations" for the 2024-25 season, with their take over stalled at the moment. They also have the winding up petition hearing, which was adjourned for the final time back in May, at the High Court on Wednesday. www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c5111z7gykwo
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Post by Cale Green Hatter on Jun 24, 2024 22:36:24 GMT
Yeovil statement re Stop The Boats sticker
Club Statement | Xenophobic Sticker 📰
Yeovil Town Football Club is aware of a sticker featuring our former logo with the slogan “stop the boats,” which has been spotted in Germany and circulating social media.
We want to make it unequivocally clear that Yeovil Town Football Club does not condone or support this message in any form.
Our club stands firmly against any form of discrimination, xenophobia, or divisive rhetoric. We pride ourselves on being an inclusive and welcoming community that respects all individuals, regardless of their background or nationality.
The use of our former logo in this manner is unauthorised, and we are taking steps to address this misuse.
We appreciate the continued support of our fans and community as we work to uphold the values of respect, unity, and diversity.
#YTFC 💚
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Post by timberwolf on Jun 25, 2024 8:07:06 GMT
Yeovil statement re Stop The Boats sticker Club Statement | Xenophobic Sticker 📰 Yeovil Town Football Club is aware of a sticker featuring our former logo with the slogan “stop the boats,” which has been spotted in Germany and circulating social media. We want to make it unequivocally clear that Yeovil Town Football Club does not condone or support this message in any form. Our club stands firmly against any form of discrimination, xenophobia, or divisive rhetoric. We pride ourselves on being an inclusive and welcoming community that respects all individuals, regardless of their background or nationality. The use of our former logo in this manner is unauthorised, and we are taking steps to address this misuse. We appreciate the continued support of our fans and community as we work to uphold the values of respect, unity, and diversity. #YTFC 💚 Just wish football clubs would stay clear of a political issue or politics in general. A statement just saying the sticker was not an official club sticker and not produced by the club would have sufficed. We will see on the terraces next season if they get hammered how much real respect and unity there will be amongst fans who will see the defeat differently.
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Post by Nik on Jun 25, 2024 8:18:15 GMT
Yeovil statement re Stop The Boats sticker Club Statement | Xenophobic Sticker 📰 Yeovil Town Football Club is aware of a sticker featuring our former logo with the slogan “stop the boats,” which has been spotted in Germany and circulating social media. We want to make it unequivocally clear that Yeovil Town Football Club does not condone or support this message in any form. Our club stands firmly against any form of discrimination, xenophobia, or divisive rhetoric. We pride ourselves on being an inclusive and welcoming community that respects all individuals, regardless of their background or nationality. The use of our former logo in this manner is unauthorised, and we are taking steps to address this misuse. We appreciate the continued support of our fans and community as we work to uphold the values of respect, unity, and diversity. #YTFC 💚 Just wish football clubs would stay clear of a political issue or politics in general. A statement just saying the sticker was not an official club sticker and not produced by the club would have sufficed. We will see on the terraces next season if they get hammered how much real respect and unity there will be amongst fans who will see the defeat differently. We've got a Ukrainian flag flying at EP and wear poppies on our shirts each November; politics and football will always be intrinsically linked until clubs take a truly and completely neutral stance on everything and acknowledge nothing. Whether they should or not is a different question, but unless they were to do so, politics cannot be kept out of football.
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Post by Mozzer on Jun 25, 2024 8:30:16 GMT
Yeovil statement re Stop The Boats sticker Club Statement | Xenophobic Sticker 📰 Yeovil Town Football Club is aware of a sticker featuring our former logo with the slogan “stop the boats,” which has been spotted in Germany and circulating social media. We want to make it unequivocally clear that Yeovil Town Football Club does not condone or support this message in any form. Our club stands firmly against any form of discrimination, xenophobia, or divisive rhetoric. We pride ourselves on being an inclusive and welcoming community that respects all individuals, regardless of their background or nationality. The use of our former logo in this manner is unauthorised, and we are taking steps to address this misuse. We appreciate the continued support of our fans and community as we work to uphold the values of respect, unity, and diversity. #YTFC 💚 Just wish football clubs would stay clear of a political issue or politics in general. A statement just saying the sticker was not an official club sticker and not produced by the club would have sufficed. We will see on the terraces next season if they get hammered how much real respect and unity there will be amongst fans who will see the defeat differently. Well, the fans brought politics to the club, didn't they? This isn't like Fylde's Chairman wanking on about Brexit when no-one needed to know (a view he's entitled IM0). They could have put out a statement saying it wasn't official club merchandise and it would have been interpreted as tacit support for it. Football clubs like to say they're part of the communities they sit in. That means politics will come into it. You can like or dislike what they say, and no doubt Yeovil fans will be split on this (though I think most people see the Stop the Boats bullshit for what it is) but they have a role. That comes with a responsibility.
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Post by timberwolf on Jun 25, 2024 9:42:27 GMT
Just wish football clubs would stay clear of a political issue or politics in general. A statement just saying the sticker was not an official club sticker and not produced by the club would have sufficed. We will see on the terraces next season if they get hammered how much real respect and unity there will be amongst fans who will see the defeat differently. Well, the fans brought politics to the club, didn't they? This isn't like Fylde's Chairman wanking on about Brexit when no-one needed to know (a view he's entitled IM0). They could have put out a statement saying it wasn't official club merchandise and it would have been interpreted as tacit support for it. Football clubs like to say they're part of the communities they sit in. That means politics will come into it. You can like or dislike what they say, and no doubt Yeovil fans will be split on this (though I think most people see the Stop the Boats bullshit for what it is) but they have a role. That comes with a responsibility. Then you can add to clubs keeping out of politics that fans should follow the same line. Why do we go to a football match anyway. Its to watch a game of football mainly and sit side by side with people who feel like us but miles away from them regarding politics and our everyday lives. A lot of what clubs talk about like being part of a community is only froth if they never back it up with actions. At least at County we are luckier than many as the club do back it up.
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Post by Mozzer on Jun 25, 2024 10:01:15 GMT
Well, the fans brought politics to the club, didn't they? This isn't like Fylde's Chairman wanking on about Brexit when no-one needed to know (a view he's entitled IM0). They could have put out a statement saying it wasn't official club merchandise and it would have been interpreted as tacit support for it. Football clubs like to say they're part of the communities they sit in. That means politics will come into it. You can like or dislike what they say, and no doubt Yeovil fans will be split on this (though I think most people see the Stop the Boats bullshit for what it is) but they have a role. That comes with a responsibility. Then you can add to clubs keeping out of politics that fans should follow the same line. Why do we go to a football match anyway. Its to watch a game of football mainly and sit side by side with people who feel like us but miles away from them regarding politics and our everyday lives. A lot of what clubs talk about like being part of a community is only froth if they never back it up with actions. At least at County we are luckier than many as the club do back it up. Well, politics is part of life and football doesn't exist in a vacuum. Sport and politics have been mixed since the first person realised that an event where people gather is a good place to make a point. You can take or leave whatever politics is being talked about, but you're not going to stop sport being used in that way.
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Post by vicar on Jun 25, 2024 11:25:33 GMT
Yeovil statement re Stop The Boats sticker Club Statement | Xenophobic Sticker 📰 Yeovil Town Football Club is aware of a sticker featuring our former logo with the slogan “stop the boats,” which has been spotted in Germany and circulating social media. We want to make it unequivocally clear that Yeovil Town Football Club does not condone or support this message in any form. Our club stands firmly against any form of discrimination, xenophobia, or divisive rhetoric. We pride ourselves on being an inclusive and welcoming community that respects all individuals, regardless of their background or nationality. The use of our former logo in this manner is unauthorised, and we are taking steps to address this misuse. We appreciate the continued support of our fans and community as we work to uphold the values of respect, unity, and diversity. #YTFC 💚 I think that's a good response, well done Yeovil.
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Post by stevie57 on Jun 25, 2024 13:53:13 GMT
Just wish football clubs would stay clear of a political issue or politics in general. A statement just saying the sticker was not an official club sticker and not produced by the club would have sufficed. We will see on the terraces next season if they get hammered how much real respect and unity there will be amongst fans who will see the defeat differently. We've got a Ukrainian flag flying at EP and wear poppies on our shirts each November; politics and football will always be intrinsically linked until clubs take a truly and completely neutral stance on everything and acknowledge nothing. Whether they should or not is a different question, but unless they were to do so, politics cannot be kept out of football. Linking the poppy to politics (particularly in its current abhorrent manifestations) is unfortunate as it is actually one of the most unpolitical of gestures anyone could make; it’s real meaning doesn’t need explaining here, and the c.5 million visitors for example who visited the ceramic poppy display in London in 2014 would be astonished and bemused to be accused making a political statement as for pretty much 100% of them, it was about respect for all human life lost in conflict (plus a bit of curiosity).
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Post by Nik on Jun 25, 2024 15:12:36 GMT
We've got a Ukrainian flag flying at EP and wear poppies on our shirts each November; politics and football will always be intrinsically linked until clubs take a truly and completely neutral stance on everything and acknowledge nothing. Whether they should or not is a different question, but unless they were to do so, politics cannot be kept out of football. Linking the poppy to politics (particularly in its current abhorrent manifestations) is unfortunate as it is actually one of the most unpolitical of gestures anyone could make; it’s real meaning doesn’t need explaining here, and the c.5 million visitors for example who visited the ceramic poppy display in London in 2014 would be astonished and bemused to be accused making a political statement as for pretty much 100% of them, it was about respect for all human life lost in conflict (plus a bit of curiosity). It may be unfortunate, but the poppy represents all conflict, including the controversial ones. That draws politically charged emotions into it. The entire James McClean situation is proof enough. If clubs were to be truly non-political, they would have to step away from any and all acknowledgement of external factors that aren't related to football, but that's just not possible. Politics will always come into football, one way or another.
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Post by Imposter on Jun 25, 2024 15:31:22 GMT
Linking the poppy to politics (particularly in its current abhorrent manifestations) is unfortunate as it is actually one of the most unpolitical of gestures anyone could make; it’s real meaning doesn’t need explaining here, and the c.5 million visitors for example who visited the ceramic poppy display in London in 2014 would be astonished and bemused to be accused making a political statement as for pretty much 100% of them, it was about respect for all human life lost in conflict (plus a bit of curiosity). It may be unfortunate, but the poppy represents all conflict, including the controversial ones. That draws politically charged emotions into it. The entire James McClean situation is proof enough. If clubs were to be truly non-political, they would have to step away from any and all acknowledgement of external factors that aren't related to football, but that's just not possible. Politics will always come into football, one way or another. Not to mention the politicisation of the poppy has come entirely from the right with their excessive, "I'm poppying better than you" displays and the poppy mafia ready to jump on anyone not being as loud about their poppy wearing/displaying. It's not the people suggesting we might keep poppies out of football because poppies are a political symbol who made the poppy a political symbol, it's those who insist (almost) violently so that the poppies should never, ever be removed. As I understood it in my experience wearing a poppy was simple - you bought one, one, and wore it. It was small, simple, dignified. You didn't cover your wall/door/car in dozens of poppies, or your social media - in some sort of competitive ostentatious display. You just bought a poppy and wore it, only buying another if you lost it, or it became too scruffy to wear. And those that didn't - well you might tut at them slightly if you disapproved/disagreeed, but there was nothing like the almost nasty social pressure that comes these days from the multi-poppy brigade The old way was alright. The new way is sickening.
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Post by CB1883 on Jun 25, 2024 18:31:16 GMT
It may be unfortunate, but the poppy represents all conflict, including the controversial ones. That draws politically charged emotions into it. The entire James McClean situation is proof enough. If clubs were to be truly non-political, they would have to step away from any and all acknowledgement of external factors that aren't related to football, but that's just not possible. Politics will always come into football, one way or another. Not to mention the politicisation of the poppy has come entirely from the right with their excessive, "I'm poppying better than you" displays and the poppy mafia ready to jump on anyone not being as loud about their poppy wearing/displaying. It's not the people suggesting we might keep poppies out of football because poppies are a political symbol who made the poppy a political symbol, it's those who insist (almost) violently so that the poppies should never, ever be removed. As I understood it in my experience wearing a poppy was simple - you bought one, one, and wore it. It was small, simple, dignified. You didn't cover your wall/door/car in dozens of poppies, or your social media - in some sort of competitive ostentatious display. You just bought a poppy and wore it, only buying another if you lost it, or it became too scruffy to wear. And those that didn't - well you might tut at them slightly if you disapproved/disagreeed, but there was nothing like the almost nasty social pressure that comes these days from the multi-poppy brigade The old way was alright. The new way is sickening. Bizarre exaggeration of what actually happens in the case of a very high percentage of people.
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Post by Imposter on Jun 25, 2024 18:50:16 GMT
Not to mention the politicisation of the poppy has come entirely from the right with their excessive, "I'm poppying better than you" displays and the poppy mafia ready to jump on anyone not being as loud about their poppy wearing/displaying. It's not the people suggesting we might keep poppies out of football because poppies are a political symbol who made the poppy a political symbol, it's those who insist (almost) violently so that the poppies should never, ever be removed. As I understood it in my experience wearing a poppy was simple - you bought one, one, and wore it. It was small, simple, dignified. You didn't cover your wall/door/car in dozens of poppies, or your social media - in some sort of competitive ostentatious display. You just bought a poppy and wore it, only buying another if you lost it, or it became too scruffy to wear. And those that didn't - well you might tut at them slightly if you disapproved/disagreeed, but there was nothing like the almost nasty social pressure that comes these days from the multi-poppy brigade The old way was alright. The new way is sickening. Bizarre exaggeration of what actually happens in the case of a very high percentage of people. It really isn't. Just look at the outrage aimed at Jon Snow when he didn't wear a poppy on Channel 4.
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Post by CB1883 on Jun 25, 2024 19:04:03 GMT
Bizarre exaggeration of what actually happens in the case of a very high percentage of people. It really isn't. Just look at the outrage aimed at Jon Snow when he didn't wear a poppy on Channel 4. Your comment is the first I knew of it so hardly front page news. To claim the poppy is in any way a far right ideology is madness considering the number of people that it represents from all political, religious and ethnic backgrounds. Not much gets under my skin more than the laziness of the assumption that it is in any way far right.
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