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Post by Philcounty on Oct 27, 2021 22:54:50 GMT
It’s the right decision to have sacked Rusk. It needed to happen for everyone’s benefit. I wish him well in his future career. A nice bloke and I’m sure he tried his best. It was just never going to work here, it was making everyone miserable, and it’s baffling that the appointment was ever made. The whole thing just leaves me feeling a bit flat. What a waste of time and money. The end of an era that should never have ended with Gannon, followed by a largely miserable nine months, that has left JG, Rusk, Stott, Wilson and all of us worse off. What an avoidable mess. I’m glad that Dave Conlon is interim manager. Really want him to do well. Good luck, Dave. Couldn't have an easier start than Dover and then it would be great for him to be able to lead us at Bolton, however I assume they'll hope to have appointed Wilson's latest puppet/scapegoat by then.
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Post by Bilby on Oct 28, 2021 0:27:46 GMT
It’s the right decision to have sacked Rusk. It needed to happen for everyone’s benefit. I wish him well in his future career. A nice bloke and I’m sure he tried his best. It was just never going to work here, it was making everyone miserable, and it’s baffling that the appointment was ever made. The whole thing just leaves me feeling a bit flat. What a waste of time and money. The end of an era that should never have ended with Gannon, followed by a largely miserable nine months, that has left JG, Rusk, Stott, Wilson and all of us worse off. What an avoidable mess. I’m glad that Dave Conlon is interim manager. Really want him to do well. Good luck, Dave. The Brighton connection was a bit of a package. SR plus McGhee and later Beard. I wonder if the latter got a nudge from he club along the lines of "It might be a good idea if you slipped away quietly Mark as you are Johnny come lately and have done nothing wrong but storm clouds are gathering and you may wish to avoid them. We'll use the family issues card as a cover". Pure speculation on my part.
I can honestly say I did not se a single interview from McGhee during his tenure. Please correct me if I am wrong.
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Post by Stranded Hatter on Oct 28, 2021 0:51:33 GMT
It’s the right decision to have sacked Rusk. It needed to happen for everyone’s benefit. I wish him well in his future career. A nice bloke and I’m sure he tried his best. It was just never going to work here, it was making everyone miserable, and it’s baffling that the appointment was ever made. The whole thing just leaves me feeling a bit flat. What a waste of time and money. The end of an era that should never have ended with Gannon, followed by a largely miserable nine months, that has left JG, Rusk, Stott, Wilson and all of us worse off. What an avoidable mess. I’m glad that Dave Conlon is interim manager. Really want him to do well. Good luck, Dave. The Brighton connection was a bit of a package. SR plus McGhee and later Beard. I wonder if the latter got a nudge from he club along the lines of "It might be a good idea if you slipped away quietly Mark as you are Johnny come lately and have done nothing wrong but storm clouds are gathering and you may wish to avoid them. We'll use the family issues card as a cover". Pure speculation on my part.
I can honestly say I did not se a single interview from McGhee during his tenure. Please correct me if I am wrong.
He did one when he came in I don’t think they ever worked out what he was doing here
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Post by mattyovrio on Oct 28, 2021 5:38:22 GMT
I’m not watching all of that again, but am sure he said something along the lines of, ‘I’ll find stuff to do.’
The football side of things has been pretty much a joke since JG left. A joke in very poor taste for the fans. The masses of backroom staff, the constant big name signings, random loaners that don’t play and of course the turgid football on the pitch and poor results.
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Post by mattyovrio on Oct 28, 2021 5:39:41 GMT
I forgot imbalanced squad.
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Post by vicar on Oct 28, 2021 7:40:37 GMT
It’s the right decision to have sacked Rusk. It needed to happen for everyone’s benefit. I wish him well in his future career. A nice bloke and I’m sure he tried his best. It was just never going to work here, it was making everyone miserable, and it’s baffling that the appointment was ever made. The whole thing just leaves me feeling a bit flat. What a waste of time and money. The end of an era that should never have ended with Gannon, followed by a largely miserable nine months, that has left JG, Rusk, Stott, Wilson and all of us worse off. What an avoidable mess. I’m glad that Dave Conlon is interim manager. Really want him to do well. Good luck, Dave. That's a good summary, so many people lost from that decision, I think we'd be a league club now with Jim proving his doubters wrong, Simon would have a nice life on the south coast developing young players and the club would have saved a fortune paying off contracts, the only losers would have been Hartlepool or Sutton.
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Post by mattyovrio on Oct 28, 2021 8:44:25 GMT
No doubt there will be plenty blaming the fans (no really) for Rusk’s failure. The usual trope about he never had a chance because the Gannon fans didn’t back him. Load of old tosh that. He failed because of his tactics, coaching and inability to set the team up with a coherent game A plan and supplement that by being able to change a game with subs.
Of course, the scattergun recruitment hasn’t helped either, but whether he had a hand in that or not is difficult for us to know. Wilson as DoF takes his share of the blame. The one group who take no blame whatsoever is the fans.
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Post by tgttiw on Oct 28, 2021 8:52:16 GMT
No doubt there will be plenty blaming the fans (no really) for Rusk’s failure. The usual trope about he never had a chance because the Gannon fans didn’t back him. Load of old tosh that. He failed because of his tactics, coaching and inability to set the team up with a coherent game A plan and supplement that by being able to change a game with subs. Of course, the scattergun recruitment hasn’t helped either, but whether he had a hand in that or not is difficult for us to know. Wilson as DoF takes his share of the blame. The one group who take no blame whatsoever is the fans. If Rusk was in the top 3 this season the fans would have been behind him. The reason I was so unhappy was the style of play and the players seem to have no clue.
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Post by gibbo on Oct 28, 2021 9:01:25 GMT
That's a good summary, so many people lost from that decision, I think we'd be a league club now with Jim proving his doubters wrong, Simon would have a nice life on the south coast developing young players and the club would have saved a fortune paying off contracts, the only losers would have been Hartlepool or Sutton. The sacking itself though didn't have to be an issue, it was taking an unnecessary risk on an unproven Manager that was the real problem. We could still have been a Football League club now even without Jim.
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Post by m14hatter on Oct 28, 2021 9:06:00 GMT
That's a good summary, so many people lost from that decision, I think we'd be a league club now with Jim proving his doubters wrong, Simon would have a nice life on the south coast developing young players and the club would have saved a fortune paying off contracts, the only losers would have been Hartlepool or Sutton. The sacking itself though didn't have to be an issue, it was taking an unnecessary risk on an unproven Manager that was the real problem. We could still have been a Football League club now even without Jim. 100% this. I think as a fan base we’re stuck in some sort of Stockholm syndrome where we’re conditioned to believe only Jim can save us or have success with us. The issue after he has left on each occasion has been poor or bizarre choices of replacements!
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Post by timberwolf on Oct 28, 2021 9:26:29 GMT
That's a good summary, so many people lost from that decision, I think we'd be a league club now with Jim proving his doubters wrong, Simon would have a nice life on the south coast developing young players and the club would have saved a fortune paying off contracts, the only losers would have been Hartlepool or Sutton. The sacking itself though didn't have to be an issue, it was taking an unnecessary risk on an unproven Manager that was the real problem. We could still have been a Football League club now even without Jim. So true. Two mistakes made, sacking of JG plus a poor replacement on top of it to make the decision even worse.
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Post by scfc29 on Oct 28, 2021 10:38:39 GMT
That's a good summary, so many people lost from that decision, I think we'd be a league club now with Jim proving his doubters wrong, Simon would have a nice life on the south coast developing young players and the club would have saved a fortune paying off contracts, the only losers would have been Hartlepool or Sutton. The sacking itself though didn't have to be an issue, it was taking an unnecessary risk on an unproven Manager that was the real problem. We could still have been a Football League club now even without Jim. The sacking itself was always going to be an issue and rightly so, it was a disgrace. Had JG’s replacement been successful, the issue would obviously be raised a hell of a lot less then it is. Football fans are fickle.
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Post by vicar on Oct 28, 2021 13:41:34 GMT
That's a good summary, so many people lost from that decision, I think we'd be a league club now with Jim proving his doubters wrong, Simon would have a nice life on the south coast developing young players and the club would have saved a fortune paying off contracts, the only losers would have been Hartlepool or Sutton. The sacking itself though didn't have to be an issue, it was taking an unnecessary risk on an unproven Manager that was the real problem. We could still have been a Football League club now even without Jim. Of course we could with a better appointment, sacking Jim was a mistake but it was followed up with another mistake.
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Post by Duncan McOchin on Oct 28, 2021 15:09:49 GMT
Koeman being sacked by Barcelona. County and Barcelona sack their managers on the same day… two very similar clubs 😄 Both in the race for Erik ten Hag
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Post by Stranded Hatter on Oct 28, 2021 16:47:55 GMT
That's a good summary, so many people lost from that decision, I think we'd be a league club now with Jim proving his doubters wrong, Simon would have a nice life on the south coast developing young players and the club would have saved a fortune paying off contracts, the only losers would have been Hartlepool or Sutton. The sacking itself though didn't have to be an issue, it was taking an unnecessary risk on an unproven Manager that was the real problem. We could still have been a Football League club now even without Jim. The sacking itself was a mistake, it pissed off fans and was handled dreadfully. They could have softened the blow by not f*cking up his replacement but they didn’t and that’s on them. What they should have done was give him until the end of the season, then they could have got rid of him if we failed to go up saying he failed to reach his target. I’d have been disappointed but understanding. Of course that ran the risk of him succeeding in taking us up and they couldn’t have risked that - he really would have been unsackable. Christ they’d have been better off getting rid in the summer of 2020 saying they wanted their own man, rather than giving him a new contact and speaking about both sides of their mouths in the press about how he was the way forward.
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