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Post by ancienthatter on Sept 20, 2021 8:32:22 GMT
And Warburton continues to haunt us Though the general consensus was that we didn't want him back, we'd moved on from needing to sign ex-Players / needed better, etc. I’d have had him back in a heartbeat.
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Post by Stranded Hatter on Sept 20, 2021 8:33:48 GMT
And Warburton continues to haunt us Though the general consensus was that we didn't want him back, we'd moved on from needing to sign ex-Players / needed better, etc. General consensus may well be, but I can only speak for myself and I’d have him back. Though my post was more about his inevitable goal and assist on Saturday
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Post by Stranded Hatter on Sept 20, 2021 8:35:39 GMT
We all wanted better investment in the playing budget but not to the extent we have done with at the moment no sign of improvement on the pitch. The main thing was having higher wages to kepp players at the club with sensible signings. No need to raid division 1 for their players. Spot on We don’t need to sign League one players to get out of non league, we need the best non league players
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Post by Lee on Sept 20, 2021 8:42:15 GMT
Though the general consensus was that we didn't want him back, we'd moved on from needing to sign ex-Players / needed better, etc. I’d have had him back in a heartbeat. We've not had a No.10 like him since he left for Northampton.
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Post by herbiedumplings on Sept 20, 2021 9:12:17 GMT
Also, despite what Left put in another thread about us having many options for a replacement, we need to remember that word must get around just like it does in any other jobs market. The football world has seen what happens when Stockport County’s manager clashes with its Director of Football. The football world has also seen what happens when Stockport County’s managers goes along with/is led by its Director of Football. Neither have turned out to be good for the manager in question’s career. With rusks failure I'd say the dof is significantly weaker than it was last January. It’s certainly possible. Unfortunately after the “I wouldn’t be here if it wasn’t for Simon” thing at the forum, it’s not so clear whether MS is here primarily because of his historical connection to Stockport or because SW thought County might be a good basis for his project and the local link was just the icing on the cake. It’s probably a bit of both in reality, but I think we need to be wary of the possibility (as I’ve said before) that SW forms the opinion that County isn’t the correct vessel for his vision, and persuades MS to go elsewhere with him. Fanciful perhaps, but with most of MS’s money still being the form of loans rather than shares there’s not all that much beyond sentiment keeping him here if the dream of owning a successful Football League club evaporates completely here at Stockport County.
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Post by atmosphere on Sept 20, 2021 9:40:54 GMT
Definitley not that tit Keith Hill. Can't stand the try hard tw*t.
My choice would be Phil Parkinson at Altrincham. Great coach, plays good football, knows this level. Question mark would be if he could take it up the levels if we got up to the FL but he would deserve the opportunity if he got us up.
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Post by Nik on Sept 20, 2021 9:46:34 GMT
Definitley not that tit Keith Hill. Can't stand the try hard tw*t. My choice would be Phil Parkinson at Altrincham. Great coach, plays good football, knows this level. Question mark would be if he could take it up the levels if we got up to the FL but he would deserve the opportunity if he got us up. Just in time for a Phil Parkinson derby as well.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2021 9:47:31 GMT
Re Matty Warburton, our best player last season was Jack Earing we had him for 2 years first year out on loan then in the first team. He had a few good games on BT sport and went to Walsall. Pete Wild didn't want him to go but then he realised he could get Matty Warburbuton he was delighted. Really good player at this level.
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Post by mattyovrio on Sept 20, 2021 9:56:51 GMT
Hi Halifax fan here. Reading all your message boards I get the impression your owner is trying to run your club like one in a lot higher league. Unfortunately at this level having directors of everything doesn't work. It's alright signing players from higher levels but why are they coming apart from money. Pete Wild has total control of recruitment at the Shay and having the budget he has his recruitment is torally different. We look for players who have something to prove released by a big club, player trying to improve their career,coming back from injury. We sometimes get it wrong but more often we get it right and they have gone on to better things. We have to do this as nobody would sign for us just for the wages. Also Pete Wild has an exceptional knowledge of junior and non league football in the North West and we are reaping the rewards of this. Saturday first half we gave you too much respect but when we realised you were beatable we started to play our normal game. To be honest for all the money you've spent I wouldn't want one of your players in our team. How many ex EFL managers have got Clubs into the league in recent years. I dislike Chesterfield intensely but there recruitment of James Rowe was a masterstroke. Hope you beat Wrexham. The big difference is expectation, Pete Wild will have time to get things right, our supporters have little patience, even when we were on a great run last season, it wasn’t good enough for many on this board. Pete Wild can quietly go about his business, getting things right over a period of time, Simon Rusk or A.N. Other can’t, the weight of expectation that we go up is a heavy burden, anything less isn’t good enough. There is a weight of expectation. JG could carry that weight as he had a good track record as a successful player and manager at our club. An unproven, previously unknown under-23 coach from Brighton was never going to get the same amount of leeway from the fans, was he?
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Post by ricky on Sept 20, 2021 10:01:17 GMT
The big difference is expectation, Pete Wild will have time to get things right, our supporters have little patience, even when we were on a great run last season, it wasn’t good enough for many on this board. Pete Wild can quietly go about his business, getting things right over a period of time, Simon Rusk or A.N. Other can’t, the weight of expectation that we go up is a heavy burden, anything less isn’t good enough. Ricky County fans have lots of patience, where we run out is when the club needlessly hits the self destruct button while throwing money at it. If we’d been mid table when this change was made I doubt there’d be anything like the reaction you’re seeing now. Although Simon Rusk’s inflexibility would be raising eyebrows. The club made this mess not the fans stop trying to blame us. I’m not blaming the fans, just stating a fact, it’s 7 games in , and if this board is anything to go by, the fans have had enough of a manager who has only been in the job 10 months. Have you heard of Hofstadter’s law? : ‘it always takes longer than you expect, even when you take into account Hofstadter’s law’, this is why I won’t be jumping for joy if/when Rusk gets sacked and I fear it will be the undoing of the club, this demand for immediate success, not just from the supporters but everything and everyone around the club.
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Post by Stranded Hatter on Sept 20, 2021 10:04:05 GMT
Ricky County fans have lots of patience, where we run out is when the club needlessly hits the self destruct button while throwing money at it. If we’d been mid table when this change was made I doubt there’d be anything like the reaction you’re seeing now. Although Simon Rusk’s inflexibility would be raising eyebrows. The club made this mess not the fans stop trying to blame us. I’m not blaming the fans, just stating a fact, it’s 7 games in , and if this board is anything to go by, the fans have had enough of a manager who has only been in the job 10 months. Have you heard of Hofstadter’s law? : ‘it always takes longer than you expect, even when you take into account Hofstadter’s law’, this is why I won’t be jumping for joy if/when Rusk gets sacked and I fear it will be the undoing of the club, this demand for immediate success, not just from the supporters but everything and everyone around the club. It’s not 7 games though is it? We’ve been sliding down in quality since he came in and he shows no sign of having any idea how to turn it round. If he was trying new things, different shapes, different ways of playing, then I’d be more than happy for him to get more time but he isn’t. He’s sticking to one way of playing and is then confused when it doesn’t work. That’s why I think we need to cut our losses because he’s not even learning on the job.
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Post by m20hatter on Sept 20, 2021 10:11:24 GMT
I’m not blaming the fans, just stating a fact, it’s 7 games in , and if this board is anything to go by, the fans have had enough of a manager who has only been in the job 10 months. Have you heard of Hofstadter’s law? : ‘it always takes longer than you expect, even when you take into account Hofstadter’s law’, this is why I won’t be jumping for joy if/when Rusk gets sacked and I fear it will be the undoing of the club, this demand for immediate success, not just from the supporters but everything and everyone around the club. It’s not 7 games though is it? We’ve been sliding down in quality since he came in and he shows no sign of having any idea how to turn it round. If he was trying new things, different shapes, different ways of playing, then I’d be more than happy for him to get more time but he isn’t. He’s sticking to one way of playing and is then confused when it doesn’t work. That’s why I think we need to cut our losses because he’s not even learning on the job. Well said, sick of hearing this 7 games thing. We’ve gone backwards all over the pitch, masked by a load of draws and easy/expected wins in the unbeaten run. The style of football alone is enough for me to want him gone.
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Post by Nik on Sept 20, 2021 10:18:24 GMT
Ricky County fans have lots of patience, where we run out is when the club needlessly hits the self destruct button while throwing money at it. If we’d been mid table when this change was made I doubt there’d be anything like the reaction you’re seeing now. Although Simon Rusk’s inflexibility would be raising eyebrows. The club made this mess not the fans stop trying to blame us. I’m not blaming the fans, just stating a fact, it’s 7 games in , and if this board is anything to go by, the fans have had enough of a manager who has only been in the job 10 months. Have you heard of Hofstadter’s law? : ‘it always takes longer than you expect, even when you take into account Hofstadter’s law’, this is why I won’t be jumping for joy if/when Rusk gets sacked and I fear it will be the undoing of the club, this demand for immediate success, not just from the supporters but everything and everyone around the club. If the 'undoing' of the club is going to happen then it's already in motion and if it does eventually come crashing down, is anyone really going to look back to this point now as the catalyst and say " we should never have sacked Rusk"?
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Post by herbiedumplings on Sept 20, 2021 10:20:59 GMT
I’m not blaming the fans, just stating a fact, it’s 7 games in , and if this board is anything to go by, the fans have had enough of a manager who has only been in the job 10 months. Have you heard of Hofstadter’s law? : ‘it always takes longer than you expect, even when you take into account Hofstadter’s law’, this is why I won’t be jumping for joy if/when Rusk gets sacked and I fear it will be the undoing of the club, this demand for immediate success, not just from the supporters but everything and everyone around the club. It’s not 7 games though is it? We’ve been sliding down in quality since he came in and he shows no sign of having any idea how to turn it round. If he was trying new things, different shapes, different ways of playing, then I’d be more than happy for him to get more time but he isn’t. He’s sticking to one way of playing and is then confused when it doesn’t work. That’s why I think we need to cut our losses because he’s not even learning on the job. Unfortunate it should have come to this, but this. Having a full pre-season with his pick of players and the run of our Championship Grade training facilities was supposed to take us from a team who were knocked out of the Playoffs (admittedly after a performance that is best forgotten, but that’s another conversation) to a team challenging for top spot. Now, however, the only thing that’s stopping us from being closer to last place on points than first place in the league is Dover’s points deduction. I do feel for Rusk; I think he is as much the wrong manager, at the wrong club, at the wrong time as Kalezic was eight or nine years ago. But from what little I know of DK’s career since he left us, I gather it took a beating from just 12 games of being wrong manager, at the wrong club, at the wrong time. Rusk’s been in-post almost a whole season now and we’re going backwards by (almost) all accounts. He doesn’t need to be “that guy”, but he’s in danger of becoming exactly that sadly.
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Post by suedehead on Sept 20, 2021 10:26:36 GMT
I’m not blaming the fans, just stating a fact, it’s 7 games in , and if this board is anything to go by, the fans have had enough of a manager who has only been in the job 10 months. Have you heard of Hofstadter’s law? : ‘it always takes longer than you expect, even when you take into account Hofstadter’s law’, this is why I won’t be jumping for joy if/when Rusk gets sacked and I fear it will be the undoing of the club, this demand for immediate success, not just from the supporters but everything and everyone around the club. If the 'undoing' of the club is going to happen then it's already in motion and if it does eventually come crashing down, is anyone really going to look back to this point now as the catalyst and say " we should never have sacked Rusk"? Ricky will.
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