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Post by scfc73 on Sept 21, 2021 4:36:16 GMT
This dates the Sheff Wed seat damaging thing as 2005:
Comedy quote from our own Phil Robbie 'They'd been drinking all day'...... Typical sensationalist headline from the M.E.N. It was hardly a hooligan rampage, They pulled the hoardings out, damaged a couple of seats & briefly spilled onto the pitch in the corner between the pop & C.E. in a half hearted attempted to goad County fans, they were met by County in the same corner & retreated back into the popside. Despite their numbers i saw little to no trouble outside they were content to pretend to look scary behind a police escort to the station. The not sitting down malarkey & their boisterous behaviour made me laugh as it was around the time our stewards had a reputation for harrassing our own fans & smaller groups of travelling fans for the most petty of things in a none too polite manner, i read several complaints from different clubs fans around that time about the heavy handed nature of stewarding at E.P. They got a taste of their own medicine that day. Glad to say the stewarding has improved considerably in recent years.
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Post by houldsworthhatter on Sept 21, 2021 5:01:10 GMT
I'm not going on Saturday. It's going to be awful. There's nothing to suggest any result other than a comfortable Wrexham win. Our players are low on confidence, they don't play as a team and don't appear to have any kind of plan they believe in. Rusk seems like a nice bloke, but it's not working and the fans will understandably turn on him and the players as soon as things start to go wrong. For all the money that's been spent, imagine how proud you'd feel if we could play the following 11: Hinchliffe Duxberry Minihan Palmer Stott Turnbull Walker Warburton Mulhern Stephenson Thomas I can't believe how quickly we've gone from that side to this. And how much it's cost us. The only possible silver lining of this inevitable humiliation could be an overhaul of the management team, and have someone brought in that has the stones to tell the players on high wage, 3 year contracts that they either start performing or they get loaned out to part time teams in the North. If you put the strongest 11 premier league players out under these tactics with this management team they’d do nothing and look inept. These players are good players from this division and the lower leagues, they’ve been there and done it. They’ve not just forgotten how to play, how to fight and remain confident. It’s clear to me it’s being trained/coached out of them. They’re being stopped from being creative and are being stifled. It’ll be interesting to see how they go under the next manager, as I’d expect we’ll see a marked improvement.
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Post by leicesterhatter on Sept 21, 2021 6:30:31 GMT
I'm not going on Saturday. It's going to be awful. There's nothing to suggest any result other than a comfortable Wrexham win. Our players are low on confidence, they don't play as a team and don't appear to have any kind of plan they believe in. Rusk seems like a nice bloke, but it's not working and the fans will understandably turn on him and the players as soon as things start to go wrong. For all the money that's been spent, imagine how proud you'd feel if we could play the following 11: Hinchliffe Duxberry Minihan Palmer Stott Turnbull Walker Warburton Mulhern Stephenson Thomas I can't believe how quickly we've gone from that side to this. And how much it's cost us. The only possible silver lining of this inevitable humiliation could be an overhaul of the management team, and have someone brought in that has the stones to tell the players on high wage, 3 year contracts that they either start performing or they get loaned out to part time teams in the North. Proud in a whistful way, but that squad wouldn't cut it in this league either anymore.
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Post by leicesterhatter on Sept 21, 2021 6:35:04 GMT
He'll be in charge for Saturday. They’ve properly not thought this through, have they? Think about it though. This is a group of people who plotted behind Jim Gannon’s back to sack him, while in public the Director of Football was gushing in national media, saying: ‘He almost has his own football manual that he has written. That shows his depth of thinking about the game. "In many ways Jim represents Stockport. His personality, fighting for the little man, it is who Stockport are.’ Then they had the nerve to leak the idea that ‘we hope by sacking him after a win it shows it isn’t about results’. Are we really surprised they’re prepared to hang Simon Rusk out to dry, knowing full well he’ll get dog’s abuse if we don’t win? Shameful. Is he not hanging himself or to dry? I'm pretty certain they would have accepted his resignation if he'd offered it after the weekend - but he wants to try and win on Saturday, potentially to show what he is about when properly under the cosh. If we get tonked/don't win I'd be very surprised/disappointed if he was still here next week. But he's not being forced to stay by some evil overlords...
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Post by herbiedumplings on Sept 21, 2021 6:55:22 GMT
They’ve properly not thought this through, have they? Think about it though. This is a group of people who plotted behind Jim Gannon’s back to sack him, while in public the Director of Football was gushing in national media, saying: ‘He almost has his own football manual that he has written. That shows his depth of thinking about the game. "In many ways Jim represents Stockport. His personality, fighting for the little man, it is who Stockport are.’ Then they had the nerve to leak the idea that ‘we hope by sacking him after a win it shows it isn’t about results’. Are we really surprised they’re prepared to hang Simon Rusk out to dry, knowing full well he’ll get dog’s abuse if we don’t win? Shameful. Is he not hanging himself or to dry? I'm pretty certain they would have accepted his resignation if he'd offered it after the weekend - but he wants to try and win on Saturday, potentially to show what he is about when properly under the cosh. If we get tonked/don't win I'd be very surprised/disappointed if he was still here next week. But he's not being forced to stay by some evil overlords... Has he relocated though? He spent the entirety of his coaching career prior to County in one place didn’t he, and wasn’t by any account doing a bad job? If he’s uprooted his family for this mess, he could be under a lot of “non-football” pressure to fix a problem he created…
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Post by leicesterhatter on Sept 21, 2021 7:20:36 GMT
Is he not hanging himself or to dry? I'm pretty certain they would have accepted his resignation if he'd offered it after the weekend - but he wants to try and win on Saturday, potentially to show what he is about when properly under the cosh. If we get tonked/don't win I'd be very surprised/disappointed if he was still here next week. But he's not being forced to stay by some evil overlords... Has he relocated though? He spent the entirety of his coaching career prior to County in one place didn’t he, and wasn’t by any account doing a bad job? If he’s uprooted his family for this mess, he could be under a lot of “non-football” pressure to fix a problem he created… He lives in one of Stott's apartment blocks, no idea if he even has a family. My response to that general point though would be that he knew what he was getting himself into - he had faith in himself to get the job and to do the job, but if he didn't know that if things didn't work out then the risk was with him, then he's more naive than any of us could have expected. The risk is to his career as much as anything, as right now he is failing badly in circumstances where he shouldn't be - and if that means he wants to try and ride it out, then saying it is the clubs fault for not sacking him is to my mind a bit daft.
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Post by countybumpkin on Sept 21, 2021 7:30:48 GMT
Is he not hanging himself or to dry? I'm pretty certain they would have accepted his resignation if he'd offered it after the weekend - but he wants to try and win on Saturday, potentially to show what he is about when properly under the cosh. If we get tonked/don't win I'd be very surprised/disappointed if he was still here next week. But he's not being forced to stay by some evil overlords... Has he relocated though? He spent the entirety of his coaching career prior to County in one place didn’t he, and wasn’t by any account doing a bad job? If he’s uprooted his family for this mess, he could be under a lot of “non-football” pressure to fix a problem he created… Due to the the nature of the job, you would expect that football managers have contingencies in place for such eventualities. You know, like a ‘Plan B’…
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Post by countybumpkin on Sept 21, 2021 7:36:38 GMT
They’ve properly not thought this through, have they? Think about it though. This is a group of people who plotted behind Jim Gannon’s back to sack him, while in public the Director of Football was gushing in national media, saying: ‘He almost has his own football manual that he has written. That shows his depth of thinking about the game. "In many ways Jim represents Stockport. His personality, fighting for the little man, it is who Stockport are.’ Then they had the nerve to leak the idea that ‘we hope by sacking him after a win it shows it isn’t about results’. Are we really surprised they’re prepared to hang Simon Rusk out to dry, knowing full well he’ll get dog’s abuse if we don’t win? Shameful. Is he not hanging himself or to dry? I'm pretty certain they would have accepted his resignation if he'd offered it after the weekend - but he wants to try and win on Saturday, potentially to show what he is about when properly under the cosh. If we get tonked/don't win I'd be very surprised/disappointed if he was still here next week. But he's not being forced to stay by some evil overlords... What if those evil overlords are actually Netflix…? There’s definitely the potential for some ratings-boosting drama on Saturday.
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Post by canterbury on Sept 21, 2021 9:55:53 GMT
This dates the Sheff Wed seat damaging thing as 2005:
Definitely happened back in 2002 as well. Wednesday did seem to get into their fair share of bother back then. Probably both then, I knew I'd witnessed it and that I'd missed the 2002 match. What I do remember about the 01-02 game is that it was our only win on a Saturday and it came on the final day. Beat Norwich on a Thursday for ITV digital, doubled Bradford which were both Tuesday nights, so was City, Watford at EP was Easter bank holiday Monday, and Carlisle in the league cup was obviously midweek too. Think that's all our wins.
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Post by suedehead on Sept 21, 2021 10:03:23 GMT
Definitely happened back in 2002 as well. Wednesday did seem to get into their fair share of bother back then. Probably both then, I knew I'd witnessed it and that I'd missed the 2002 match. What I do remember about the 01-02 game is that it was our only win on a Saturday and it came on the final day. Beat Norwich on a Thursday for ITV digital, doubled Bradford which were both Tuesday nights, so was City, Watford at EP was Easter bank holiday Monday, and Carlisle in the league cup was obviously midweek too. Think that's all our wins. Wednesday in March 2004 was another one which kicked off, the one Lambert scored at the Railway End in the 11 game unbeaten run. I'd just got a phone with a camera on the first time and remember taking a few of the Wednesday fans pushing through the Popside/CE barriers, there were ad boards on the pitch at one point too. 04/05 there was a bit of mither but to a much lesser extent. They beat us 3-0 in the November. Usual pushing and shoving in the ground but was less fraught than the previous season under McIlroy. Don't remember anything happening in the ground in the Coca Cola Cup in 05/06, the game Proudlock came on for them looking like a superstar.
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Post by suedehead on Sept 21, 2021 10:05:38 GMT
This dates the Sheff Wed seat damaging thing as 2005:
That doesn't correspond to a match against them. We played them at Hillsbrough on 23rd April 2005, drew 0-0 (was the only point we picked up in about 9/10 games, wore the yellow third kit). I suspect MEN migrated a load of old articles onto a new platform in 2005 and they've all got the same date stamp, and that refers to the March 2004 game mentioned in my previous post.
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Post by slomasscfc on Sept 21, 2021 14:45:03 GMT
Has he relocated though? He spent the entirety of his coaching career prior to County in one place didn’t he, and wasn’t by any account doing a bad job? If he’s uprooted his family for this mess, he could be under a lot of “non-football” pressure to fix a problem he created… He lives in one of Stott's apartment blocks, no idea if he even has a family. My response to that general point though would be that he knew what he was getting himself into - he had faith in himself to get the job and to do the job, but if he didn't know that if things didn't work out then the risk was with him, then he's more naive than any of us could have expected. The risk is to his career as much as anything, as right now he is failing badly in circumstances where he shouldn't be - and if that means he wants to try and ride it out, then saying it is the clubs fault for not sacking him is to my mind a bit daft. Yes in Stotts accommodation, not with the mother of his kid/kids she lives in Chester, that was from Rusk at the forum when just having a general chat with him
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Post by Ngard on Sept 21, 2021 14:48:50 GMT
He lives in one of Stott's apartment blocks, no idea if he even has a family. My response to that general point though would be that he knew what he was getting himself into - he had faith in himself to get the job and to do the job, but if he didn't know that if things didn't work out then the risk was with him, then he's more naive than any of us could have expected. The risk is to his career as much as anything, as right now he is failing badly in circumstances where he shouldn't be - and if that means he wants to try and ride it out, then saying it is the clubs fault for not sacking him is to my mind a bit daft. Yes in Stotts accommodation, not with the mother of his kid/kids she lives in Chester, that was from Rusk at the forum when just having a general chat with him Choosing to live alone away from your wife and kids when they're in Chester seems a bit weird to me? Thought the situation with Mourinho living in the Lowry hotel with his family still in London was weird too. Seems a bit lonely especially with the pressure all managers are under. Though maybe your perspective changes when you have a wife and kids!
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Post by ancienthatter on Sept 21, 2021 14:56:11 GMT
Yes in Stotts accommodation, not with the mother of his kid/kids she lives in Chester, that was from Rusk at the forum when just having a general chat with him Choosing to live alone away from your wife and kids when they're in Chester seems a bit weird to me? Thought the situation with Mourinho living in the Lowry hotel with his family still in London was weird too. Seems a bit lonely especially with the pressure all managers are under. Though maybe your perspective changes when you have a wife and kids! I would guess Si Lomas is suggesting they are not a couple any more.
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Post by Imposter on Sept 21, 2021 14:57:29 GMT
Yes in Stotts accommodation, not with the mother of his kid/kids she lives in Chester, that was from Rusk at the forum when just having a general chat with him Choosing to live alone away from your wife and kids when they're in Chester seems a bit weird to me? Thought the situation with Mourinho living in the Lowry hotel with his family still in London was weird too. Seems a bit lonely especially with the pressure all managers are under. Though maybe your perspective changes when you have a wife and kids! The way it was worded suggests to me they are divorced/separated.
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