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Post by desmond on Aug 2, 2024 16:03:10 GMT
It's interesting because, if Mrs Big is to be trusted and believed, the Algerian boxer IS actually a woman and not trans. Apparently she was born with a different chromosome but is a biological woman. Same kind of thing I imagine as that Kratochvilova a while back perhaps? End of the day, if she's a woman she's a woman. "Some girls are bigger than others". She competed at the last Olympics and lost in the quarter finals. No matter what people's views are on transpeople, this woman is simply competing as permitted and is being villainised as some kind of evil manifestation of woke. Though she and another fighter were disqualified from the world championships fairly recently. How much of that was down to Russia as being the leaders of the boxing council who made the decisions is open to question though
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Post by Nik on Aug 2, 2024 16:10:56 GMT
She competed at the last Olympics and lost in the quarter finals. No matter what people's views are on transpeople, this woman is simply competing as permitted and is being villainised as some kind of evil manifestation of woke. Though she and another fighter were disqualified from the world championships fairly recently. How much of that was down to Russia as being the leaders of the boxing council who made the decisions is open to question though That's true, but she meets the requirements for the Olympics so should be able to compete until she doesn't meet those requirements. The hysteria over her has been embarrassing, particularly about her being punched in the face, as if that's not the objective of a boxing match. Give the left are supposed to the 'snowflakes', there hasn't half been some marding from the anti-wokes.
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Post by herbiedumplings on Aug 2, 2024 16:31:34 GMT
Though she and another fighter were disqualified from the world championships fairly recently. How much of that was down to Russia as being the leaders of the boxing council who made the decisions is open to question though That's true, but she meets the requirements for the Olympics so should be able to compete until she doesn't meet those requirements. The hysteria over her has been embarrassing, particularly about her being punched in the face, as if that's not the objective of a boxing match. Give the left are supposed to the 'snowflakes', there hasn't half been some marding from the anti-wokes. Mme Boulette put it nicely: diversity and inclusion are at odds with equality.
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Post by scfc29 on Aug 2, 2024 16:36:50 GMT
It's interesting because, if Mrs Big is to be trusted and believed, the Algerian boxer IS actually a woman and not trans. Apparently she was born with a different chromosome but is a biological woman. Same kind of thing I imagine as that Kratochvilova a while back perhaps? End of the day, if she's a woman she's a woman. "Some girls are bigger than others". She competed at the last Olympics and lost in the quarter finals. No matter what people's views are on transpeople, this woman is simply competing as permitted and is being villainised as some kind of evil manifestation of woke. The media have been terrible on this one. Every report was suggesting she was a trans woman which was obviously then picked up by twitter and it snowballed. I don’t think trans women should be able to compete in woman’s sport but this case is entirely different. If a woman is born female but has higher testosterone levels than her peers, then that’s just an advantage she has over her competitors. I’m sure Anthony Joshua also has higher testosterone levels than the average bloke.
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Post by herbiedumplings on Aug 2, 2024 19:54:28 GMT
Probably being paranoid, but I feel like literally broadcasting Beth Shriever’s killer tactic wrecked her chances in the final…
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Post by Bredburyhatter on Aug 2, 2024 20:15:02 GMT
mens 10,000m - 8 athletes finished under 27 minutes (the previous Olympic record)
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Post by herbiedumplings on Aug 2, 2024 20:17:44 GMT
mens 10,000m - 8 athletes finished under 27 minutes (the previous Olympic record) *checks for e-scooters* [edit:] Since when did lapped runners not bother to move away from the racing line, BTW?
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Post by timberwolf on Aug 3, 2024 8:06:48 GMT
She competed at the last Olympics and lost in the quarter finals. No matter what people's views are on transpeople, this woman is simply competing as permitted and is being villainised as some kind of evil manifestation of woke. Though she and another fighter were disqualified from the world championships fairly recently. How much of that was down to Russia as being the leaders of the boxing council who made the decisions is open to question though We seem to have forgotton those USSR and East German female field athletes of the past when the word trans was more or less unknown as well as those with a complex body from birth. Two wrongs do not make a right but female sport has been dogged by issues over the years and when one door gets shut another seems to open up. If all trans athletes are banned today it would not surprise me that another issue pops up in years to come. Although it will not be easy for them to do it but its mainly up to women to sort their half of sports out by actions they feel fit to do and supported by the vast majority.
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Post by gibbo on Aug 3, 2024 9:26:49 GMT
mens 10,000m - 8 athletes finished under 27 minutes (the previous Olympic record) That was a brilliant race.
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Post by Bilby on Aug 3, 2024 9:52:04 GMT
She competed at the last Olympics and lost in the quarter finals. No matter what people's views are on transpeople, this woman is simply competing as permitted and is being villainised as some kind of evil manifestation of woke. The media have been terrible on this one. Every report was suggesting she was a trans woman which was obviously then picked up by twitter and it snowballed.I don’t think trans women should be able to compete in woman’s sport but this case is entirely different. If a woman is born female but has higher testosterone levels than her peers, then that’s just an advantage she has over her competitors. I’m sure Anthony Joshua also has higher testosterone levels than the average bloke. Non trans but maybe has DSD
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Post by desmond on Aug 3, 2024 9:58:26 GMT
A sport you hate to love ? What about Rowing, not really a sport for the masses but possibly some of the most watchable and exciting sports in the Olympics.
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Post by bigmartin on Aug 3, 2024 9:58:50 GMT
Though she and another fighter were disqualified from the world championships fairly recently. How much of that was down to Russia as being the leaders of the boxing council who made the decisions is open to question though That's true, but she meets the requirements for the Olympics so should be able to compete until she doesn't meet those requirements. The hysteria over her has been embarrassing, particularly about her being punched in the face, as if that's not the objective of a boxing match. Give the left are supposed to the 'snowflakes', there hasn't half been some marding from the anti-wokes. It's become bullying plain and simple. On a global level. I now roundly want her to win gold.
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Post by bigmartin on Aug 3, 2024 10:01:32 GMT
A sport you hate to love ? What about Rowing, not really a sport for the masses but possibly some of the most watchable and exciting sports in the Olympics. Might be because every human being's programmed to be competitive to varying degrees but anything we're competing for a gold medal in seems to all of a sudden interest me when it never would outside the Olympics. I'll watch hardly any of these sports when the Olympics finished. A client invited me to the cycling WC a few years back and I sort of gurned and said "no thanks". It defies logic (for me).
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Post by Nik on Aug 3, 2024 10:07:58 GMT
The media have been terrible on this one. Every report was suggesting she was a trans woman which was obviously then picked up by twitter and it snowballed.I don’t think trans women should be able to compete in woman’s sport but this case is entirely different. If a woman is born female but has higher testosterone levels than her peers, then that’s just an advantage she has over her competitors. I’m sure Anthony Joshua also has higher testosterone levels than the average bloke. Non trans but maybe has DSD
But the vast majority of coverage has been calling her trans and a man. It's harmful lies.
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Post by desmond on Aug 3, 2024 10:09:42 GMT
A sport you hate to love ? What about Rowing, not really a sport for the masses but possibly some of the most watchable and exciting sports in the Olympics. Might be because every human being's programmed to be competitive to varying degrees but anything we're competing for a gold medal in seems to all of a sudden interest me when it never would outside the Olympics. I'll watch hardly any of these sports when the Olympics finished. A client invited me to the cycling WC a few years back and I sort of gurned and said "no thanks". It defies logic (for me). I’m going to campaign for a new 4th place medal in the games, from this first week it seems we’d have won quite a few.
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