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Post by Jack on Dec 8, 2013 21:15:43 GMT
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Post by suedehead on Dec 8, 2013 21:30:24 GMT
I'm not really sure what to make of it all.
I'm glad I don't go any more though. And in all honestly in six months there won't be anything left for anyone to go to.
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Post by Mad91 on Dec 8, 2013 22:14:31 GMT
It seems people are running out of people to have a go at so there turning on each other now, once the fans turn on each other you know things are bad, the club is f**ked.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2013 22:48:47 GMT
What is this nonsense actually all about?
I don't know any of the people involved personally, I'm probably one of the "majority" fans he speaks about and from where I'm standing he's right - this is all a massive farce indeed.
" It has turned into a farce because the loudest minority wish to spread mis information"
I try to avoid the politics of SCFC, mostly because I don't understand a lot of it - so this bloke trying to raise some funds and do a march to get awareness of the club. He gets some stick because he's supposedly got an ulterior motive behind the march and is trying to muscle himself into the someone who can make decisions or what?
This all sounds like we're back in the school playground trying to big ourselves up in front of our mates and what not, utterly stupid.
But then I think after reading everything I have done - erm, well why would I stand behind this guy who is running away with his tails between his legs because a few people speak up against him and ask a lot of questions? I admire the guy for trying something like this, but If you throw yourself at the public and try to take lead - no matter what your reasons or motives are, you will always have someone who disagrees or thinks things should be done differently.
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Post by vicar on Dec 8, 2013 23:04:29 GMT
The march is still happening as I understand it, he's just pulled out personally.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2013 23:56:21 GMT
What is this nonsense actually all about? I don't know any of the people involved personally, I'm probably one of the "majority" fans he speaks about and from where I'm standing he's right - this is all a massive farce indeed. " It has turned into a farce because the loudest minority wish to spread mis information" I try to avoid the politics of SCFC, mostly because I don't understand a lot of it - so this bloke trying to raise some funds and do a march to get awareness of the club. He gets some stick because he's supposedly got an ulterior motive behind the march and is trying to muscle himself into the someone who can make decisions or what? This all sounds like we're back in the school playground trying to big ourselves up in front of our mates and what not, utterly stupid. But then I think after reading everything I have done - erm, well why would I stand behind this guy who is running away with his tails between his legs because a few people speak up against him and ask a lot of questions? I admire the guy for trying something like this, but If you throw yourself at the public and try to take lead - no matter what your reasons or motives are, you will always have someone who disagrees or thinks things should be done differently. there was no agenda he shouted about doing a march on 21st then got asked by fitzy and co if he could do some marketing etc and has been attacked by a few. I will march and I know a lot of others who will. For once put petty differences to one side and stand shoulder to shoulder with your fellow fan
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Post by CB1883 on Dec 9, 2013 6:06:40 GMT
If anything is going to be achieved by this we need to stick together. If the fans are falling out amongst themselves then the board are just going to laugh at us.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2013 7:11:17 GMT
Its very very simple really .... if you are fed up of the state of our club, wish to see the likes of RM go the just turn up on the 21st as fans AND MARCH ... ignore the sh*t stirrers, ignore the conspiracy theorists, ignore anyone who starts their sentance with "before I lend my support to anything ... blah blah"
JUST MARCH AS A FAN IF YOU ARE FED UP WITH COUNTY'S PLIGHT ... SIMPLES!
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Post by PSP on Dec 9, 2013 9:25:59 GMT
Mard arse. Only RB questioning him from what I've read.
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Post by samscfc on Dec 9, 2013 9:31:38 GMT
Mard arse. Only RB questioning him from what I've read. Agreed, bottled it.
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Post by stjude on Dec 9, 2013 9:34:47 GMT
Some right bellends follow County.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2013 9:55:24 GMT
Can't fathom this out at all.
SS appeared, speaking in riddles as usual.
Launched a march
Everyone on YB pretty much joins aboard except one or two progagonists who say "whoa hold on"
Then arises that SS has ulterior motive (and he does...whether that's an issue or not is a good question....but he definitely has an ulterior motive).
RB does RB and grills him incessantly.
SS gets grumpy, defensive, evasive, then finally chucks his toys out of the pram and plays the "oooo I've been hard done to and demand your sympathy" card.
People then get grumpy with RB.
I myself have had my run ins with RB over the past and he can be an extraordinary pain in the arse for sure (so can I !) but what exactly did he do wrong here other than ask a few pretty awkward questions.
The only particularly offensive messages I read were from SS
I think the phrase grow a pair applies here. And I worry immensely about people who cave in under pressure. It tells me pretty much all I need to know. And in this regard it told me "there's something wrong with all this".
Though I still intend to go on the march.
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Post by J on Dec 9, 2013 10:13:27 GMT
This whole thing has been embarrassing.
I don't know why SS feels the need to post in riddles all the time. It doesn't help his case or any cause he supports. If he had posted his statement originally (or at least originally when asked instead of resorting to further riddles) it would have avoided all these problems.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2013 10:28:28 GMT
Can't fathom this out at all. SS appeared, speaking in riddles as usual. Launched a march Everyone on YB pretty much joins aboard except one or two progagonists who say "whoa hold on" Then arises that SS has ulterior motive (and he does...whether that's an issue or not is a good question....but he definitely has an ulterior motive). RB does RB and grills him incessantly. SS gets grumpy, defensive, evasive, then finally chucks his toys out of the pram and plays the "oooo I've been hard done to and demand your sympathy" card. People then get grumpy with RB. I myself have had my run ins with RB over the past and he can be an extraordinary pain in the arse for sure (so can I !) but what exactly did he do wrong here other than ask a few pretty awkward questions. The only particularly offensive messages I read were from SS I think the phrase grow a pair applies here. And I worry immensely about people who cave in under pressure. It tells me pretty much all I need to know. And in this regard it told me "there's something wrong with all this". Though I still intend to go on the march. RBs questions were aimed at the wrong person. SS had no agenda when he first suggested 21st. He was approached by fitzy and co to do marketing and try and get very large corporations to sponsor us. So he couldn't answer the anal probing that RB kept giving out. THERE WAS ORIGINALLY NO AGENDA
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2013 11:10:35 GMT
Can't fathom this out at all. SS appeared, speaking in riddles as usual. Launched a march Everyone on YB pretty much joins aboard except one or two progagonists who say "whoa hold on" Then arises that SS has ulterior motive (and he does...whether that's an issue or not is a good question....but he definitely has an ulterior motive). RB does RB and grills him incessantly. SS gets grumpy, defensive, evasive, then finally chucks his toys out of the pram and plays the "oooo I've been hard done to and demand your sympathy" card. People then get grumpy with RB. I myself have had my run ins with RB over the past and he can be an extraordinary pain in the arse for sure (so can I !) but what exactly did he do wrong here other than ask a few pretty awkward questions. The only particularly offensive messages I read were from SS I think the phrase grow a pair applies here. And I worry immensely about people who cave in under pressure. It tells me pretty much all I need to know. And in this regard it told me "there's something wrong with all this". Though I still intend to go on the march. RBs questions were aimed at the wrong person. SS had no agenda when he first suggested 21st. He was approached by fitzy and co to do marketing and try and get very large corporations to sponsor us. So he couldn't answer the anal probing that RB kept giving out. THERE WAS ORIGINALLY NO AGENDA
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