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Post by jkb9b on Jul 11, 2023 6:43:15 GMT
Even wrexscum fans pretty much saying they've lost their soul to the armchair fan Ye gods. If I was a Wrexham fan and couldn't afford a season ticket I think I'd start watching Cefn Druids instead rather than put myself through all that carry on.
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Post by timberwolf on Jul 11, 2023 7:21:01 GMT
Its a matter of what a bit of success can do to a club. Older fans will miss the days of turning up at the last minute, paying on the gate or ticket office only to watch an unsuccesful team on the pitch. There problem will be keeping the old fans and new ones equally happy which itself aint going to be easy. A real success story or have they grown too quickly and the bubble will burst. We will certainly see.
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Post by herbiedumplings on Jul 11, 2023 7:28:19 GMT
Its a matter of what a bit of success can do to a club. Older fans will miss the days of turning up at the last minute, paying on the gate or ticket office only to watch an unsuccesful team on the pitch. Their problem will be keeping the old fans and new ones equally happy which itself aint going to be easy. A real success story or have they grown too quickly and the bubble will burst. We will certainly see. ”Legacy fans”.
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Post by alkringtonhatter on Jul 11, 2023 7:40:04 GMT
So when they come here in September, there’ll be circa 1k tickets available for them, but only 700 for ST holders. Yikes…
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Post by popeye on Jul 11, 2023 8:18:44 GMT
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Post by TC on Jul 11, 2023 8:47:48 GMT
Even wrexscum fans pretty much saying they've lost their soul to the armchair fan If I'm reading this correctly, there are only 150 tickets available for UK members for each league game and there will be a ballot for these. They must therefore have sold virtually all the available seats to ST holders, rather than keep a sensible amount available for what we used to call walk-ups. The only other chance for non-ST holders is the ticket exchange scheme that they are going to introduce whereby ST holders who cannot attend will be able to sell back their ticket for the game. It will be interesting to see the mechanics of this because it seems to me that there will need to be a penalty for ST holders who fail to attend regularly without selling back. As timber says above, it's the price of success.
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Post by timberwolf on Jul 11, 2023 9:04:43 GMT
T.hink the re use of a ST seat has been tried elsewhere before them and brentford have been reported to be trying the same next season. Possibly its mid week games where it will mainly be used like it would with us.
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Post by herbiedumplings on Jul 11, 2023 9:07:10 GMT
You sure it’s not Salford bidding £400k for Bolton’s Luke Barnsley?
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Post by countybumpkin on Jul 11, 2023 11:21:10 GMT
So when they come here in September, there’ll be circa 1k tickets available for them, but only 700 for ST holders. Yikes… If the 300 don’t sing “USA! USA! USA!”, we definitely should, to help them out
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Post by herbiedumplings on Jul 11, 2023 11:44:35 GMT
So when they come here in September, there’ll be circa 1k tickets available for them, but only 700 for ST holders. Yikes… If the 300 don’t sing “USA! USA! USA!”, we definitely should, to help them out I feel the Team America theme tune would be more appropriate?
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Post by Henry Pratt on Jul 11, 2023 11:49:34 GMT
Think a lot of reasons has killed the traditional programme whsich could also affect a monthly magazine. Larger programmes that clubs have got seem to be running out of ideas just to fill the pages. Still buy one when i can but not downhearted if i do not unlike the old days where they were part of the match. There is so much information about your club now the vast majority will know it all before any printed publication comes out. Even historical stuff must have been covered on here and other places. Its got down now to buying one, flicking through many pages unread and adding to a pile of others that will i,m sure be binned sometime in the future. Just need a team sheet if only for the opposition now and nothing on paper is really needed. There’s years worth of interesting stuff we could put in a magazine, just got to go looking for it and then get the right people to put it together in a meaningful way. Nobody really cares who the opposition midfielder is, even opposition fans. They know that already. But I’d quite happily read 4000 words on Hippo’s background/story that has seen him get to the point he now represents Grenada. Move it away from trying to be up to date news because it will never be a vehicle for that again. It can’t be, social media has killed it as being somewhere for news. Get it looking at some more interesting angles/stories that aren’t being told elsewhere. Agree totally. I'd also emphasise your point about the "right people". Writing is a skill, and it's one that isn't really considered as a specialism, certainly by traditional programme creators. Programmes have always been awful, and it's largely because it's been seen as a box-ticking exercise. Managers notes, supporters club column, away team "pen pictures" - all absolute crud. And usually boring crud because instead of getting someone who can write, you get Geoff who does everything from helping out in the ticket office to answering the phones. He can write up the managers notes can't he? How difficult is it - everyone can write, can't they? Go monthly and hand it over to a production team (possibly external agency) that can produce a mag that you can charge £7.50-£10 for. Long articles, written by skilled writers, of the type Suedehead mentioned. Look in depth at significant figures from the history of the club. A 2000 word piece on our kits. Tell the full story of significant wins in our history. Even make the Dark Days Podcasts into a series of articles. And yes, if you want to go a bit fanziney, have some humorous stuff in there. But written by people with a sense of humour and the ability to express it in writing. We went down the fanziney-humour route in the programme when TTP was out, and the results were... not great. Traditional programmes were fairly pointless in pre-internet days. Five minutes to read, then never opened again, only of interest to collectors. In the modern world, I can't think of much that's more pointless.
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Post by Henry Pratt on Jul 11, 2023 12:00:00 GMT
Not sure i'd be more likely to buy this, than a matchday programme I would I think that is the future of “programmes” Top quality production values, high quality photography and in depth interviews and analysis of the Club at every level Sig me up Yep. Here's an example. An article about Stockport County Women (incidentally, can we please call them that, and not "Ladies"?) Traditional: Pen pictures of the players, in-jokes that don't really mean much to an outsider. Review of how they've done so far. Upcoming games. Details of where they are and what times. Yawn. Better: Long chat to the manager and one or two players. Explore how difficult it is to get them together for decent training sessions when they're part-time. Ask the players about their journey to end up playing for County. Yep, touch on stuff like the colours of shorts to help with period anxiety. End with a section about a game, really painting a picture of what it's like to play as a woman for County, with most of the piece about anything other than who scored the goals. Essentially, the kind of stuff WSC does so well. Like Suedehead says, why are we looking at reasons not to do something like that? It's so exciting a prospect, we should be champing at the bit.
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Post by herbiedumplings on Jul 11, 2023 12:02:31 GMT
I would I think that is the future of “programmes” Top quality production values, high quality photography and in depth interviews and analysis of the Club at every level Sig me up Yep. Here's an example. An article about Stockport County Women (incidentally, can we please call them that, and not "Ladies"?) Traditional: Pen pictures of the players, in-jokes that don't really mean much to an outsider. Review of how they've done so far. Upcoming games. Details of where they are and what times. Yawn. Better: Long chat to the manager and one or two players. Explore how difficult it is to get them together for decent training sessions when they're part-time. Ask the players about their journey to end up playing for County. Yep, touch on stuff like the colours of shorts to help with period anxiety. End with a section about a game, really painting a picture of what it's like to play as a woman for County, with most writing about anything other than who scored the goals. Essentially, the kind of stuff WSC does so well. Like Suedehead says, why are we looking at reasons not to do something like that? It's so exciting a prospect, we should be champing at the bit. Depends if everything else going on at the club in question gives the exercise a whiff of Blue Sky Thinking, I suppose?
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Post by fenedgeexile on Jul 11, 2023 20:27:11 GMT
I've just seen Cambridge United's new goalkeeper shirts and I think my eyeballs may be melting... Somehow, I can't see them selling many of these at £47 each.
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Post by herbiedumplings on Jul 11, 2023 20:32:35 GMT
I've just seen Cambridge United's new goalkeeper shirts and I think my eyeballs may be melting... View AttachmentSomehow, I can't see them selling many of these at £47 each. Welcome to USA ‘94!
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