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Post by slomasscfc on Jul 11, 2023 20:46:02 GMT
I've just seen Cambridge United's new goalkeeper shirts and I think my eyeballs may be melting... View AttachmentSomehow, I can't see them selling many of these at £47 each. will send the opposition attackers heads west that, cunning plan
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Post by mat1scfc on Jul 11, 2023 20:53:18 GMT
Anything is better than these prices tbf. £90 for a kids keeper kit - £60 for an adult keeper top (£15 more than last season and it's the exact same template)
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Post by mattyovrio on Jul 11, 2023 20:54:58 GMT
Anything is better than these prices tbf. £90 for a kids keeper kit - £60 for an adult keeper top (£15 more than last season and it's the exact same template) Tue more important questions who is going to buy one of the dung shirts with dungers written on the front for Dosser of t’other board! 😉
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Post by Nik on Jul 11, 2023 21:01:25 GMT
I've just seen Cambridge United's new goalkeeper shirts and I think my eyeballs may be melting... View AttachmentSomehow, I can't see them selling many of these at £47 each. Welcome to USA ‘94! You say that but they genuinely said it was inspired by Jorge Campos' GK kits.
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Post by Philcounty on Jul 11, 2023 21:10:56 GMT
Tranmere fans as they lose 1-0 to Southport (having drawn 0-0 with Vauxhall in their other pre-season friendly).
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Post by mat1scfc on Jul 11, 2023 21:15:50 GMT
Tranmere fans as they lose 1-0 to Southport (having drawn 0-0 with Vauxhall in their other pre-season friendly). tranmere to get promoted now
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Post by suedehead on Jul 11, 2023 21:48:06 GMT
There’s years worth of interesting stuff we could put in a magazine, just got to go looking for it and then get the right people to put it together in a meaningful way. Nobody really cares who the opposition midfielder is, even opposition fans. They know that already. But I’d quite happily read 4000 words on Hippo’s background/story that has seen him get to the point he now represents Grenada. Move it away from trying to be up to date news because it will never be a vehicle for that again. It can’t be, social media has killed it as being somewhere for news. Get it looking at some more interesting angles/stories that aren’t being told elsewhere. Agree totally. I'd also emphasise your point about the "right people". Writing is a skill, and it's one that isn't really considered as a specialism, certainly by traditional programme creators. Programmes have always been awful, and it's largely because it's been seen as a box-ticking exercise. Managers notes, supporters club column, away team "pen pictures" - all absolute crud. And usually boring crud because instead of getting someone who can write, you get Geoff who does everything from helping out in the ticket office to answering the phones. He can write up the managers notes can't he? How difficult is it - everyone can write, can't they? Go monthly and hand it over to a production team (possibly external agency) that can produce a mag that you can charge £7.50-£10 for. Long articles, written by skilled writers, of the type Suedehead mentioned. Look in depth at significant figures from the history of the club. A 2000 word piece on our kits. Tell the full story of significant wins in our history. Even make the Dark Days Podcasts into a series of articles. And yes, if you want to go a bit fanziney, have some humorous stuff in there. But written by people with a sense of humour and the ability to express it in writing. We went down the fanziney-humour route in the programme when TTP was out, and the results were... not great. Traditional programmes were fairly pointless in pre-internet days. Five minutes to read, then never opened again, only of interest to collectors. In the modern world, I can't think of much that's more pointless. Agree with every word. It’s no dig at the club to say it would need to be outsourced. It would need proper talent working on it, those people won’t be at the club because they’ve not been necessary. It’s the obvious example, and I’m not that keen on their tone, but Mundial has done very well to establish itself as a print in depth football mag. It doesn’t carry news, it’s in depth stories. That’s what we need. The news is all there online and, for those who aren’t online, in the Express. Continuing the programme as a news outlet in this day and age is just bonkers. Sometimes The Athletic can be a bit too chin stroking and it’s not really necessary for a 8000 word long read on how goal kicks have evolved in the Premier League era, but some of their stuff is superb. Again, not news. Tell the story of deadline day at County. Run us through how a medical works. What do the scouts do. The kit design process. 24 hours on the road to Gillingham away with Landon. There’s so much stuff we could do that’d be interesting and unique. Give a tease of it on the website, but if you want the full article then hand over your £10 for something quality. Getting carried away, and thinking long term, have an official County podcast. Someone who knows the history and stats and stories interviewing ex-players. Not some snoozetastic ‘what was it like scoring a goal at the Cheadle End’ but a different angle on things. County TV. The Overlap style interviews. Someone credible and recognisable who could host going for a walk with Sam Walker, going fishing with Jim Gannon. Not a scripted interview, but a meaningful conversation. Someone like Matty Mainwaring hosting would be great. He’s got a good personality, looks the part, has done telly work, a credible ex-player, knows the club. I saw the other day we’ve got one of the lowest Twitter followings in the football league. There’s only about 4 clubs in L2 with smaller followings, that’s piss poor for our ambitions. There’s huge opportunities with all this. The Twitter is great and posting updates but for content, it’s non-existent.
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Post by herbiedumplings on Jul 12, 2023 6:20:22 GMT
You say that but they genuinely said it was inspired by Jorge Campos' GK kits. Interesting… Do they have any particular connection to the one-time world’s third-best goalkeeper, or do they just think the cut of his jib is now suitably retro?
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Post by Nik on Jul 12, 2023 6:35:11 GMT
You say that but they genuinely said it was inspired by Jorge Campos' GK kits. Interesting… Do they have any particular connection to the one-time world’s third-best goalkeeper, or do they just think the cut of his jib is now suitably retro? I think it's very much the latter.
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Post by advent on Jul 12, 2023 6:51:54 GMT
Agree totally. I'd also emphasise your point about the "right people". Writing is a skill, and it's one that isn't really considered as a specialism, certainly by traditional programme creators. Programmes have always been awful, and it's largely because it's been seen as a box-ticking exercise. Managers notes, supporters club column, away team "pen pictures" - all absolute crud. And usually boring crud because instead of getting someone who can write, you get Geoff who does everything from helping out in the ticket office to answering the phones. He can write up the managers notes can't he? How difficult is it - everyone can write, can't they? Go monthly and hand it over to a production team (possibly external agency) that can produce a mag that you can charge £7.50-£10 for. Long articles, written by skilled writers, of the type Suedehead mentioned. Look in depth at significant figures from the history of the club. A 2000 word piece on our kits. Tell the full story of significant wins in our history. Even make the Dark Days Podcasts into a series of articles. And yes, if you want to go a bit fanziney, have some humorous stuff in there. But written by people with a sense of humour and the ability to express it in writing. We went down the fanziney-humour route in the programme when TTP was out, and the results were... not great. Traditional programmes were fairly pointless in pre-internet days. Five minutes to read, then never opened again, only of interest to collectors. In the modern world, I can't think of much that's more pointless. Agree with every word. It’s no dig at the club to say it would need to be outsourced. It would need proper talent working on it, those people won’t be at the club because they’ve not been necessary. It’s the obvious example, and I’m not that keen on their tone, but Mundial has done very well to establish itself as a print in depth football mag. It doesn’t carry news, it’s in depth stories. That’s what we need. The news is all there online and, for those who aren’t online, in the Express. Continuing the programme as a news outlet in this day and age is just bonkers. Sometimes The Athletic can be a bit too chin stroking and it’s not really necessary for a 8000 word long read on how goal kicks have evolved in the Premier League era, but some of their stuff is superb. Again, not news. Tell the story of deadline day at County. Run us through how a medical works. What do the scouts do. The kit design process. 24 hours on the road to Gillingham away with Landon. There’s so much stuff we could do that’d be interesting and unique. Give a tease of it on the website, but if you want the full article then hand over your £10 for something quality. Getting carried away, and thinking long term, have an official County podcast. Someone who knows the history and stats and stories interviewing ex-players. Not some snoozetastic ‘what was it like scoring a goal at the Cheadle End’ but a different angle on things. County TV. The Overlap style interviews. Someone credible and recognisable who could host going for a walk with Sam Walker, going fishing with Jim Gannon. Not a scripted interview, but a meaningful conversation. Someone like Matty Mainwaring hosting would be great. He’s got a good personality, looks the part, has done telly work, a credible ex-player, knows the club. I saw the other day we’ve got one of the lowest Twitter followings in the football league. There’s only about 4 clubs in L2 with smaller followings, that’s piss poor for our ambitions. There’s huge opportunities with all this. The Twitter is great and posting updates but for content, it’s non-existent. Agree with all of that, im sure Russ and the bearded sidekick will have something to say about the podcast idea though 👀
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Post by timberwolf on Jul 12, 2023 6:54:53 GMT
Interesting… Do they have any particular connection to the one-time world’s third-best goalkeeper, or do they just think the cut of his jib is now suitably retro? I think it's very much the latter. Or more likely they,ll think they will sell more of a design like that than they would the traditional plain green keepers shirt in the club shops. If there was no replica kits i really doubt clubs would be in a big hurry to change kits year on year and if they do not go back in time they,ll run out of ideas.
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Post by herbiedumplings on Jul 12, 2023 7:10:46 GMT
Agree totally. I'd also emphasise your point about the "right people". Writing is a skill, and it's one that isn't really considered as a specialism, certainly by traditional programme creators. Programmes have always been awful, and it's largely because it's been seen as a box-ticking exercise. Managers notes, supporters club column, away team "pen pictures" - all absolute crud. And usually boring crud because instead of getting someone who can write, you get Geoff who does everything from helping out in the ticket office to answering the phones. He can write up the managers notes can't he? How difficult is it - everyone can write, can't they? Go monthly and hand it over to a production team (possibly external agency) that can produce a mag that you can charge £7.50-£10 for. Long articles, written by skilled writers, of the type Suedehead mentioned. Look in depth at significant figures from the history of the club. A 2000 word piece on our kits. Tell the full story of significant wins in our history. Even make the Dark Days Podcasts into a series of articles. And yes, if you want to go a bit fanziney, have some humorous stuff in there. But written by people with a sense of humour and the ability to express it in writing. We went down the fanziney-humour route in the programme when TTP was out, and the results were... not great. Traditional programmes were fairly pointless in pre-internet days. Five minutes to read, then never opened again, only of interest to collectors. In the modern world, I can't think of much that's more pointless. Agree with every word. It’s no dig at the club to say it would need to be outsourced. It would need proper talent working on it, those people won’t be at the club because they’ve not been necessary. It’s the obvious example, and I’m not that keen on their tone, but Mundial has done very well to establish itself as a print in depth football mag. It doesn’t carry news, it’s in depth stories. That’s what we need. The news is all there online and, for those who aren’t online, in the Express. Continuing the programme as a news outlet in this day and age is just bonkers. Sometimes The Athletic can be a bit too chin stroking and it’s not really necessary for a 8000 word long read on how goal kicks have evolved in the Premier League era, but some of their stuff is superb. Again, not news. Tell the story of deadline day at County. Run us through how a medical works. What do the scouts do. The kit design process. 24 hours on the road to Gillingham away with Landon. There’s so much stuff we could do that’d be interesting and unique. Give a tease of it on the website, but if you want the full article then hand over your £10 for something quality. Getting carried away, and thinking long term, have an official County podcast. Someone who knows the history and stats and stories interviewing ex-players. Not some snoozetastic ‘what was it like scoring a goal at the Cheadle End’ but a different angle on things. County TV. The Overlap style interviews. Someone credible and recognisable who could host going for a walk with Sam Walker, going fishing with Jim Gannon. Not a scripted interview, but a meaningful conversation. Someone like Matty Mainwaring hosting would be great. He’s got a good personality, looks the part, has done telly work, a credible ex-player, knows the club. I saw the other day we’ve got one of the lowest Twitter followings in the football league. There’s only about 4 clubs in L2 with smaller followings, that’s piss poor for our ambitions. There’s huge opportunities with all this. The Twitter is great and posting updates but for content, it’s non-existent. The Twitter one is totally valid - especially as we have a full-time media executive on the payroll - but I feel like I need to temper the misty-eyed-ness about print with a few words of caution? Mundial has literally the entire world of football to gather content from, but even so it only comes out four times a year. We’d need to scrape three times as much content from a single fourth-division English team, or - at a pinch - that much content from County plus however many teams we have some kind of positive connection with. So for instance their parent company’s website features “the fanatical world of football badges”, “the artist behind the banners at Anfield”, and “when Coventry had the most beautiful programmes ever”, and that’s great. They can reheat those ideas in a year or two as “the world’s most Man United homes”, “the musician who writes the songs for Portsmouth”, and “the famous journalist who started out writing a fanzine”, without being too obviously repetitive. In full recognition of me being a prime naysayer though, what would our editor do the year after covering County’s memorabilia cabinet, what the physios do, and the day spent fishing with JG? A exposé on the photos in the corridor outside the offices in the Cheadle End? How this year’s hospitality menu was chosen? Our day picking curtains with Joppe Meulensteen? I honestly think Morecambe are trying to dress up a cost-cutting exercise as some kind of new hipster media direction, and we should be very wary.
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Post by TC on Jul 12, 2023 7:12:03 GMT
Anything is better than these prices tbf. £90 for a kids keeper kit - £60 for an adult keeper top (£15 more than last season and it's the exact same template) Wrexham United it is then!
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Post by timberwolf on Jul 12, 2023 7:12:24 GMT
Traditional programmes were fairly pointless in pre-internet days. Five minutes to read, then never opened again, only of interest to collectors. In the modern world, I can't think of much that's more pointless. Think they were quite addictive though back in the day. Had a mate at school who was an avid shayman and he hated ever going to a game where he did not one saying he,d felt he never had really seen the match without getting one. Was never as bad as him even though i was sorry to miss one or it fell out of my pocket on the way home. Its nearly 70 years ago now but can still remember going to bootham crescent for my second ever away match and dropping it on york station being dragged to the train ready to leave. Possibly fans at the time were obsessed by them as there was no replica shirts or a change in clubs kits back then. The big revolution in them came when they ditched collars for V necks. Agree they are pointless now unless you are a real neutral ground hopper who has no clue whatsoever the names of any players on view. A fashion in football thats basically dead like the chant of B U R Y bury etc. Too lazy to spell a longer name of a club.
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Post by atmosphere on Jul 12, 2023 8:24:28 GMT
Some of these retro kits look absolutely horrendous to be honest.
When you look at Italian kits which are usually slick and simple and compare them to ones in this country, there has to be something in it.
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