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Post by Stranded Hatter on Jul 28, 2023 10:21:35 GMT
'Anything you can do, we can do better' Thing is, an NFL team - or F1 team, for that matter - will think nothing of flying players/drivers between games/races. It’ll be a culture shock… The distances involved in those are just a smidge further, mind you
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Post by timberwolf on Jul 28, 2023 10:44:18 GMT
And we got pelters for doing it once, when we’re round the corner from Manchester Airport I,d have no issue with them if they were based in an area like we are and flew to away games. With the distance they,d have to travel from where the players live to the airport or to a coach at wrexham seems pointless and trying to be a bit flash by doing this comes to mind.
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Post by herbiedumplings on Jul 28, 2023 11:23:25 GMT
Thing is, an NFL team - or F1 team, for that matter - will think nothing of flying players/drivers between games/races. It’ll be a culture shock… The distances involved in those are just a smidge further, mind you That’s very true; my point really is that they might not have made that realisation. “Slightly inconvenient away trip? Jump on a plane like they do back home!” On the flipside, if they’re flying scheduled, most of the emissions will be being emitted anyway if they don’t fly…
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Post by Stranded Hatter on Jul 28, 2023 11:47:42 GMT
The distances involved in those are just a smidge further, mind you That’s very true; my point really is that they might not have made that realisation. “Slightly inconvenient away trip? Jump on a plane like they do back home!” On the flipside, if they’re flying scheduled, most of the emissions will be being emitted anyway if they don’t fly… The beeb article mentions 16 "positioning" flights, which is something more common in chartering aircraft than commercial flights. Two of the trips went in and out of Biggin Hill which only allows business flights.
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Post by m14hatter on Jul 28, 2023 11:52:25 GMT
That’s very true; my point really is that they might not have made that realisation. “Slightly inconvenient away trip? Jump on a plane like they do back home!” On the flipside, if they’re flying scheduled, most of the emissions will be being emitted anyway if they don’t fly… The beeb article mentions 16 "positioning" flights, which is something more common in chartering aircraft than commercial flights. Two of the trips went in and out of Biggin Hill which only allows business flights. Yeah, there’s only the Eastleigh one that could potentially have been a commercial flight. The rest are all private.
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Post by Stranded Hatter on Jul 28, 2023 12:01:20 GMT
The beeb article mentions 16 "positioning" flights, which is something more common in chartering aircraft than commercial flights. Two of the trips went in and out of Biggin Hill which only allows business flights. Yeah, there’s only the Eastleigh one that could potentially have been a commercial flight. The rest are all private. My thoughts too, Wrexham fans on their forum are suggesting they charter as well. They're also complaining about a witch hunt with one article - when we got a lot more negative coverage for one commercial flight!
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Post by darkhorse on Jul 28, 2023 12:05:21 GMT
The beeb article mentions 16 "positioning" flights, which is something more common in chartering aircraft than commercial flights. Two of the trips went in and out of Biggin Hill which only allows business flights. Yeah, there’s only the Eastleigh one that could potentially have been a commercial flight. The rest are all private. Can't be cheap, that.
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Post by David Schofield on Jul 28, 2023 12:37:59 GMT
Yeah, there’s only the Eastleigh one that could potentially have been a commercial flight. The rest are all private. Can't be cheap, that. Environmentally it’s a different conversation but TBF I wouldn’t have thought the cost of a chartered flight is that much more expensive than an overnight stay for 40/45 officials, players and staff - and they would certainly be fresher and have more time with families etc
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Post by vicar on Jul 28, 2023 13:43:34 GMT
Environmentally it’s a different conversation but TBF I wouldn’t have thought the cost of a chartered flight is that much more expensive than an overnight stay for 40/45 officials, players and staff - and they would certainly be fresher and have more time with families etc Do you really think it's 40 to 45 that travel, that would mean the non playing staff outnumber the playing staff.
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Post by chadders on Jul 28, 2023 13:46:36 GMT
Make them travel with the fans as punishment. They’ll be gagging on the smell of egg butties before they reach the border.
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Post by Stranded Hatter on Jul 28, 2023 14:14:35 GMT
Environmentally it’s a different conversation but TBF I wouldn’t have thought the cost of a chartered flight is that much more expensive than an overnight stay for 40/45 officials, players and staff - and they would certainly be fresher and have more time with families etc I have a mate who works in chartering private jets. It's expensive.
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Post by advent on Jul 28, 2023 14:21:38 GMT
I bet the costs of that are sky high
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Post by HTC on Jul 28, 2023 14:24:47 GMT
Environmentally it’s a different conversation but TBF I wouldn’t have thought the cost of a chartered flight is that much more expensive than an overnight stay for 40/45 officials, players and staff - and they would certainly be fresher and have more time with families etc I have a mate who works in chartering private jets. It's expensive.
yep, they've really shot up in price post Covid / fuel cost crisis - when I dealt with private charters regularly, it wasn't necessarily that much more than a full fare business class ticket if you were chartering something big enough for 5 - 10 people on a European route, but that's not really the case now.
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Post by David Schofield on Jul 28, 2023 14:30:18 GMT
Environmentally it’s a different conversation but TBF I wouldn’t have thought the cost of a chartered flight is that much more expensive than an overnight stay for 40/45 officials, players and staff - and they would certainly be fresher and have more time with families etc Do you really think it's 40 to 45 that travel, that would mean the non playing staff outnumber the playing staff. Yes, I know it’s different at Premier League level but I stayed in the same Hotel as Newcastle when they played United and there was 27 in the Coaching Staff! - with that circus going on at Wrexham I could easily see 40+
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Post by Ngard on Jul 28, 2023 14:34:31 GMT
There is also no mention of them not staying in a hotel. Doubt they did Torquay in one day for example, and if they did they would have been better doing it overnight than by plane.
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