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Post by suedehead on Dec 27, 2023 14:49:20 GMT
But that £50k could become £100k if they've now got a player with 18 months left on his deal rather than 6. Not if he downs tools. Not saying he would, but plenty have done it before to force a move. If any player behaves like that then I don’t want them. They’ll only do it to us in the future if a bigger move comes along. I don’t for a second think Bailey will do that, he seems very genuine, but any player pulling dickhead moves like that can swivel.
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Post by Nik on Dec 27, 2023 15:01:45 GMT
18 months is a long time to down tools for in what is a very short career. If you are purposely f*cking about in training to cause distribution and force a manager to let you move they won’t keep you for 18 months paying you week in week out. Just won’t happen. Ask Jon Parkin he goes on about when he did it incessantly . As it is I don’t think Odin is that type and some veiled threats from his agent might do the job. As much as a player doesn’t want to waste 12-18 months of his career, neither does a club want to pay one who has no interest. Players get paid up or moved on all the time in this scenario. No I get you completely, but I just think this looming contract option will play a part in the negotiations of the deal; there's risks for all parties involves but that's all part of the art of negotiation. The risk to Bailey is being ostrasised and potentially wasting the next 18 months if he pushes for a things don't go his way, regardless of the likelihood of that actually happening.
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Post by Josh on Dec 27, 2023 15:09:37 GMT
Not if he downs tools. Not saying he would, but plenty have done it before to force a move. If any player behaves like that then I don’t want them. They’ll only do it to us in the future if a bigger move comes along. I don’t for a second think Bailey will do that, he seems very genuine, but any player pulling dickhead moves like that can swivel. It probably won’t come to that, he has an agent I imagine and for better or worse, they make the insinuations and pull the right levers with the selling club. It’s what they do.
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Post by wnm on Dec 27, 2023 15:24:55 GMT
Bailey back to them much more likely now, as much as I hate to say it. Really hope we’ve got a deal signed already. Really don’t think it does. Would a new manager force someone to stay who is out of contract in the Summer and wants away, turning down cash in the process. Not likely. The main reason he came here is because the manager didn’t want him or rate him. That manager is no longer there. They’re in a relegation battle and have an option to extend his contract. Not sure it’s as simple as you think it is unless it’s all been agreed already.
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Post by mat1scfc on Dec 27, 2023 15:43:32 GMT
Really don’t think it does. Would a new manager force someone to stay who is out of contract in the Summer and wants away, turning down cash in the process. Not likely. The main reason he came here is because the manager didn’t want him or rate him. That manager is no longer there. They’re in a relegation battle and have an option to extend his contract. Not sure it’s as simple as you think it is unless it’s all been agreed already. the thing is the manager may not of liked him abilty wise but also attitude wise. Bailey was apparently top of the fine list and always arriving late. If this league 2 season is anything to go by then it wouldn't suprise me if it takes Salford 3/4 weeks to get a permanent manager. It took Bradford over a month
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Post by tgttiw on Dec 27, 2023 16:13:53 GMT
Odin's situation is interesting. He's at a club that's flying he's flying. He faces a choice. Come here now and cement a starting birth in an upwardly mobile club and could easily end up in the championship or
Go back to a relegation battle and sign for us in summer but by that time we've strengthened signed a replacement (or several) they've cemented their places and he comes in as a squad player.
Or goes back to Salford stays loyal to the contract and never gets out of league 2.
The window for coming here is now he needs to come for the long term good of his career and I suspect he knows that.
He was one of the most underwhelming signings we've ever made but he's carried this team for the past month since sarc and Collar got injured.
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Post by wnm on Dec 27, 2023 16:20:05 GMT
The main reason he came here is because the manager didn’t want him or rate him. That manager is no longer there. They’re in a relegation battle and have an option to extend his contract. Not sure it’s as simple as you think it is unless it’s all been agreed already. the thing is the manager may not of liked him abilty wise but also attitude wise. Bailey was apparently top of the fine list and always arriving late. If this league 2 season is anything to go by then it wouldn't suprise me if it takes Salford 3/4 weeks to get a permanent manager. It took Bradford over a month According to who?
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Post by mat1scfc on Dec 27, 2023 16:21:58 GMT
the thing is the manager may not of liked him abilty wise but also attitude wise. Bailey was apparently top of the fine list and always arriving late. If this league 2 season is anything to go by then it wouldn't suprise me if it takes Salford 3/4 weeks to get a permanent manager. It took Bradford over a month According to who? it was on Salfords forum and the podcast that's been posted on this forum in the last couple days.
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Post by banky on Dec 27, 2023 16:24:26 GMT
The main reason he came here is because the manager didn’t want him or rate him. That manager is no longer there. They’re in a relegation battle and have an option to extend his contract. Not sure it’s as simple as you think it is unless it’s all been agreed already. the thing is the manager may not of liked him abilty wise but also attitude wise. Bailey was apparently top of the fine list and always arriving late. If this league 2 season is anything to go by then it wouldn't suprise me if it takes Salford 3/4 weeks to get a permanent manager. It took Bradford over a month may not have 👍
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Post by wnm on Dec 27, 2023 16:45:12 GMT
it was on Salfords forum and the podcast that's been posted on this forum in the last couple days. According to Josh that podcast said Luke Bolton had been out of favour with the manager this season at times when actually he had started every game when not injured.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2023 18:07:27 GMT
the thing is the manager may not of liked him abilty wise but also attitude wise. Bailey was apparently top of the fine list and always arriving late. If this league 2 season is anything to go by then it wouldn't suprise me if it takes Salford 3/4 weeks to get a permanent manager. It took Bradford over a month According to who? The host of the Salford City podcast when he was a guest on Gab Sutton's League Two podcast show. Listen from 28:20 onwards for his opinion of Touray and Bailey. Also regarding Bailey I've read claims made by a supporter who is a reliable source that Salford want 250k. If its true Salford have a year option on Baileys contract their hand in negotiations isn't as weak as people are thinking. FWIW dont be surprised if Bailey isn't signed and Lemonheigh-Evans is recalled instead.
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Post by alkringtonhatter on Dec 27, 2023 18:15:36 GMT
I’m not sure that some guy with a podcast that a dozen people listen to saying something makes it the gospel truth.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2023 18:22:22 GMT
I’m not sure that some guy with a podcast that a dozen people listen to saying something makes it the gospel truth. What would be his motive to lie? And hes said it on one of the most popular podcasts around, not one man and his Dog, other podcasts seek his opinion to comment on Salfords incliding The Scarf Bergara Wore. His assessment of Touray is exactly what County fans have seen with their own eyes Do our podcast lads make things up on their show? Just because you dont like or agree what you watch doesnt then make it untrue.
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Post by suedehead on Dec 27, 2023 18:27:45 GMT
I’m not sure that some guy with a podcast that a dozen people listen to saying something makes it the gospel truth. What would be his motive to lie? And hes said it on one of the most popular podcasts around, not one man and his Dog, other podcasts seek his opinion to comment on Salfors incliding The Scarf Bergara Wore. His assessment of Touray is exactly what County fans have seen with their own eyes Do our podcast lads make things up on their show? Just because you dont like or agree what you watch doesnt then make it untrue. Doesn’t have to be a lie, just might be getting duff info. If I hear a rumour we’re signing Player X, post it on here but then it doesn’t come it doesn’t mean I’m lying. Plenty of things impact transfers that mean they can break down.
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Post by Nik on Dec 27, 2023 18:28:01 GMT
I’m not sure that some guy with a podcast that a dozen people listen to saying something makes it the gospel truth. What would be his motive to lie? His assessment of Touray is exactly what County fans have seen with their own eyes Do our podcast lads make things up on their show? Just because you dont like or agree what you watch doesnt then make it untrue. It also doesn't make it true. He doesn't have to be lying for it to be inaccurate information.
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