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Post by Nik on Dec 27, 2023 18:32:45 GMT
If its true Salford have a year option on Baileys contract their hand in negotiations isn't as weak as people are thinking. Said the same for a while now and this contract option stuff only reinforces their position. I genuinely hope we've already done the hard yards of the negotiations and the deal will be done but it does certainly make it less of a certainty. I'd be surprised if Evans is recalled though; I'd think we'd be more likely to go out and sign someone else with the money earmarked for Bailey.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2023 18:34:47 GMT
What would be his motive to lie? His assessment of Touray is exactly what County fans have seen with their own eyes Do our podcast lads make things up on their show? Just because you dont like or agree what you watch doesnt then make it untrue. It also doesn't make it true. He doesn't have to be lying for it to be inaccurate information. Yeah, but im sure you agree he wouldnt go on a podcast and tell deliberate lies would he? He could hit legal troubles if he did. Our own Podcast lads rate his opinion enough to have him on as a guest when we play Salford and his asesment on Touray could have easily been a County fan describing him at Barrow, so his insight into on the field stuff isnt clueless IMO
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Post by Fallowfield Hatter on Dec 27, 2023 18:38:01 GMT
It also doesn't make it true. He doesn't have to be lying for it to be inaccurate information. Yeah, but im sure you agree he wouldnt go on a podcast and tell deliberate lies would he? He could her in legal reoubles if he did. .Our own Podcast rate his opinion enough to have him on as a guest when we play Salford and his asesment on Touray could have easily been a County fan describing him at Barrow, so his insight into on the field stuff isnt clueless IMO I've slept since then so I may be wrong but I'm not sure we've ever had him on. Our go-to Salford guest is usually Will Moorcroft who is their media guy.
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Post by wnm on Dec 27, 2023 18:39:02 GMT
I’m not sure that some guy with a podcast that a dozen people listen to saying something makes it the gospel truth. What would be his motive to lie? And hes said it on one of the most popular podcasts around, not one man and his Dog, other podcasts seek his opinion to comment on Salfords incliding The Scarf Bergara Wore. His assessment of Touray is exactly what County fans have seen with their own eyes Do our podcast lads make things up on their show? Just because you dont like or agree what you watch doesnt then make it untrue. As I’ve said in another post he wasn’t properly informed about Luke Bolton this season. Any ill informed fan can start a podcast.
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Post by vicar on Dec 27, 2023 18:39:49 GMT
If its true Salford have a year option on Baileys contract their hand in negotiations isn't as weak as people are thinking. Said the same for a while now and this contract option stuff only reinforces their position. I genuinely hope we've already done the hard yards of the negotiations and the deal will be done but it does certainly make it less of a certainty. I'd be surprised if Evans is recalled though; I'd think we'd be more likely to go out and sign someone else with the money earmarked for Bailey. I'd be very surprised if the hard yards haven't been done already, he's made it known he wants to stay so he must be confident he's staying.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2023 18:43:20 GMT
Yeah, but im sure you agree he wouldnt go on a podcast and tell deliberate lies would he? He could her in legal reoubles if he did. .Our own Podcast rate his opinion enough to have him on as a guest when we play Salford and his asesment on Touray could have easily been a County fan describing him at Barrow, so his insight into on the field stuff isnt clueless IMO I've slept since then so I may be wrong but I'm not sure we've ever had him on. Our go-to Salford guest is usually Will Moorcroft who is their media guy. He says he did speak to the Podcast he says it in the link i posted, he doesnt say if he was a guest or not, perhaps it was a private chat with one of the presenters but he deffo says he spoke to the Scarf Begara Wore earlier in the season.
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Post by Fallowfield Hatter on Dec 27, 2023 18:47:57 GMT
I've slept since then so I may be wrong but I'm not sure we've ever had him on. Our go-to Salford guest is usually Will Moorcroft who is their media guy. He says he did speak to the Pocast he says it in the link i posted he doesnt say if he was a guest ir not, perhaps it was a private chat with one of the presenters but he deffo says he sooke to the Scarf Begara Wore earlier in the season. Maybe we had him on then. As I said, I'm not certain. We've been doing ir nearly 9 years so it's easy to lose track of who we've had on.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2023 18:49:07 GMT
Said the same for a while now and this contract option stuff only reinforces their position. I genuinely hope we've already done the hard yards of the negotiations and the deal will be done but it does certainly make it less of a certainty. I'd be surprised if Evans is recalled though; I'd think we'd be more likely to go out and sign someone else with the money earmarked for Bailey. I'd be very surprised if the hard yards haven't been done already, he's made it known he wants to stay so he must be confident he's staying. I would have thought so as well, but all this speculation has cropped up in recent days. If a deal has been done i think the club should announce it now as it would'nt affect it, just a matter of the EFL rubber stamping it on 2nd January. In the past loans turned into permanent deals have been announced early like when we did it with Griffin, Poole etc.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2023 18:54:34 GMT
What would be his motive to lie? And hes said it on one of the most popular podcasts around, not one man and his Dog, other podcasts seek his opinion to comment on Salfords incliding The Scarf Bergara Wore. His assessment of Touray is exactly what County fans have seen with their own eyes Do our podcast lads make things up on their show? Just because you dont like or agree what you watch doesnt then make it untrue. As I’ve said in another post he wasn’t properly informed about Luke Bolton this season. Any ill informed fan can start a podcast. Have you watched the clip from 28:20 on? If you have, what do you make of his assessment of Touray as a player?
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Post by Nik on Dec 27, 2023 18:58:39 GMT
It also doesn't make it true. He doesn't have to be lying for it to be inaccurate information. Yeah, but im sure you agree he wouldnt go on a podcast and tell deliberate lies would he? He could hit legal troubles if he did. Our own Podcast lads rate his opinion enough to have him on as a guest when we play Salford and his asesment on Touray could have easily been a County fan describing him at Barrow, so his insight into on the field stuff isnt clueless IMO No, but I don't think anybody's accusing him of telling deliberate lies are they?
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Post by wnm on Dec 27, 2023 19:12:17 GMT
As I’ve said in another post he wasn’t properly informed about Luke Bolton this season. Any ill informed fan can start a podcast. Have you watched the clip from 28:20 on? If you have, what do you make of his assessment of Touray as a player? What’s that got to do with him mistakingly thinking Luke Bolton had fallen out of favour when he’s started every game when fit? How does his opinion on Touray prove he’s in the know when it comes to knowing that Bailey had discipline issues at Salford or that they want a ludicrous 250k fee for a player they couldn’t wait to offload on loan less than four months ago?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2023 19:24:16 GMT
Yeah, but im sure you agree he wouldnt go on a podcast and tell deliberate lies would he? He could hit legal troubles if he did. Our own Podcast lads rate his opinion enough to have him on as a guest when we play Salford and his asesment on Touray could have easily been a County fan describing him at Barrow, so his insight into on the field stuff isnt clueless IMO No, but I don't think anybody's accusing him of telling deliberate lies are they? I’m not sure that some guy with a podcast that a dozen people listen to saying something makes it the gospel truth. This was hardly complimentary about him IMO My point is he doesnt come across as totally clueless as his asessment of Touray performances for Salford last season could easily be a high majority of Tourays performances for County this season.
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Post by Nik on Dec 27, 2023 19:27:29 GMT
No, but I don't think anybody's accusing him of telling deliberate lies are they? I’m not sure that some guy with a podcast that a dozen people listen to saying something makes it the gospel truth. This was hardly completely about him IMO That's not suggesting he's lying though, just that he may not be a reliable source. I'm very, very rarely a reliable source for County news but if I heard something and passed it on which then turned out to be incorrect then it doesn't mean I'm deliberately lying, just that my information isn't correct.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2023 19:37:33 GMT
Have you watched the clip from 28:20 on? If you have, what do you make of his assessment of Touray as a player? How does his opinion on Touray prove he’s in the know when it comes to knowing that Bailey had discipline issues at Salford or that they want a ludicrous 250k fee for a player they couldn’t wait to offload on loan less than four months ago? Where in the clip does he say Salford want a 250k fee? The 250K fee story has come from the County Supporters Facebook page
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Post by alkringtonhatter on Dec 27, 2023 20:46:57 GMT
No, but I don't think anybody's accusing him of telling deliberate lies are they? I’m not sure that some guy with a podcast that a dozen people listen to saying something makes it the gospel truth. This was hardly complimentary about him IMO My point is he doesnt come across as totally clueless as his asessment of Touray performances for Salford last season could easily be a high majority of Tourays performances for County this season. One is an opinion about football players based on publicly available information (ie watching football matches that they’ve played in). The other is something that could only be gleaned from non-public information. I can only assume you’re being deliberately obtuse if you can’t see how those two things are different?
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