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Post by wnm on Feb 10, 2024 13:45:17 GMT
People who click on stories about Wrexham have only got themselves to blame when websites keep publishing them I didn't click on the story, only saw the headline on the L2 page. My licence fee is going to pay for some journalist to write a meaningless article which will only really interest Wrexham fans anyway. Seems to be a BBC journalism trait at the moment posting articles just for the sake of it, like the ones on house prices up and down every month. The standard of journalism on their site is awful. Or much more likely Wrexham articles are getting lots of clicks so that’s why along with being in a region they are getting posted. Just because you’re not interested in something doesn’t mean nobody else is.
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Post by philtheglass on Feb 10, 2024 13:59:16 GMT
It he wouldnt back himself to succeed at a big Championship club, that’s a bit of a red flag. Completely understandable you wouldn’t want to go to a basket case like Charlton, or a Shrewsbury type club where we are hoping to be level with in a season or two. However, if you do a half decent job at Wednesday / Boro, you’d be set for the next 10-15 years. You will always be on the list for Huddersfield / Ipswich level jobs. Even if you fail, it’s put down to ‘couldn’t cope with the step up’, and you’re still be on the shortlist for L1/L2 jobs, and know you’d always be in the mix for the Tranmere job. Darren Moore did a half decent job at Wendies on the face of it but they still blew him out. There'd be plenty who'd say Sheff Weds are somewhat of a basket case of a club. Not sure if I personally would leave a job where my current stock is high and there was little chance of the sack as things stand but I guess football isn't like any other "normal" occupation with it's head hunting nature. Wednesday parted company with Darren Moore because of his wage/budget demands. He met with the Wednesday chairman on the monday after they'd won promotion in the play-off final to discuss a new contract. He asked for treble his wages & those of his backroom staff, aswell as presenting a list of players he needed to enable Wednesday to compete in the Championship. The chairman told him to go away & come back with a more realistic wage demand (he was being paid nearly £200k at the time) & said that he'd have to sell players to fund the budget for any new recruits. They met again later in the week & it resulted in a mutual agreement for Sheffield Wednesday & Darren Moore to part company
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Post by Fallowfield Hatter on Feb 10, 2024 18:54:21 GMT
Darren Moore did a half decent job at Wendies on the face of it but they still blew him out. There'd be plenty who'd say Sheff Weds are somewhat of a basket case of a club. Not sure if I personally would leave a job where my current stock is high and there was little chance of the sack as things stand but I guess football isn't like any other "normal" occupation with it's head hunting nature. Wednesday parted company with Darren Moore because of his wage/budget demands. He met with the Wednesday chairman on the monday after they'd won promotion in the play-off final to discuss a new contract. He asked for treble his wages & those of his backroom staff, aswell as presenting a list of players he needed to enable Wednesday to compete in the Championship. The chairman told him to go away & come back with a more realistic wage demand (he was being paid nearly £200k at the time) & said that he'd have to sell players to fund the budget for any new recruits. They met again later in the week & it resulted in a mutual agreement for Sheffield Wednesday & Darren Moore to part company
It’s worked out well for them though.
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Post by ancienthatter on Feb 10, 2024 21:11:42 GMT
Why? Genuine question. Why would you give up a secure job at a fairly local club for a gamble at a club miles away from home? I get ambition - and I dare say money - might come into the equation but equally so, as you point out, so does unemployment and the possibility of a tarnished reputation. I get why players move onwards and upwards but I don't always get why managers do so. Because of the things you mention (money and ambition) and the chance to manage one of the biggest 10-15 clubs in the country - which Sunderland and Wednesday are. You say it might go wrong, what if it goes right? What if he’s the one to return either of them to the Premier League? Or even just have them challenging? Sheffield Wednesday are nowhere near the top 10-15 sides in the country.. and Sunderland are a massive u derachiever. You don’t got to those clubs unless they’ve got huge new funding in place. It’s easy to keep Challinor.. just pay him what he’s worth. The rest is All in place for him.
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Post by fenedgeexile on Feb 10, 2024 21:20:03 GMT
Aparently, today was the first home game where Wrexham failed to score since November 2021. A pretty impressive record for Wrexham and also impressive from Bradford's defence and keeper.
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Post by Fallowfield Hatter on Feb 10, 2024 22:40:28 GMT
Because of the things you mention (money and ambition) and the chance to manage one of the biggest 10-15 clubs in the country - which Sunderland and Wednesday are. You say it might go wrong, what if it goes right? What if he’s the one to return either of them to the Premier League? Or even just have them challenging? Sheffield Wednesday are nowhere near the top 10-15 sides in the country.. and Sunderland are a massive u derachiever. You don’t got to those clubs unless they’ve got huge new funding in place. It’s easy to keep Challinor.. just pay him what he’s worth. The rest is All in place for him. He didn’t say they’re one of the top 10-15 sides in the country.
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Post by desmond on Feb 10, 2024 22:52:08 GMT
Sheffield Wednesday are nowhere near the top 10-15 sides in the country.. and Sunderland are a massive u derachiever. You don’t got to those clubs unless they’ve got huge new funding in place. It’s easy to keep Challinor.. just pay him what he’s worth. The rest is All in place for him. He didn’t say they’re one of the top 10-15 sides in the country. I’m not sure Wednesday are one of the 15 biggest clubs in the Country either, certainly not top 10
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Post by nelly on Feb 10, 2024 23:07:36 GMT
He didn’t say they’re one of the top 10-15 sides in the country. I’m not sure Wednesday are one of the 15 biggest clubs in the Country either, certainly not top 10 Both has been teams. We have more potential.
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Post by Barmy Blue Army on Feb 10, 2024 23:15:29 GMT
I’m not sure Wednesday are one of the 15 biggest clubs in the Country either, certainly not top 10 Both has been teams. We have more potential. Yeah Sunderland 6th in the Championship and averaging 40k, Wednesday on a slump but averaging 25k. Both with much more prestigious history than us. We're on a upswing after some very tough times and the future looks very bright for us but let's not get delusional. There's no reason we can't be a Luton, Brentford or Bournemouth and punch above our weight but we've got an awful long way to go and it will take some excellent management off the field.
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Post by nelly on Feb 11, 2024 1:35:16 GMT
Both has been teams. We have more potential. Yeah Sunderland 6th in the Championship and averaging 40k, Wednesday on a slump but averaging 25k. Both with much more prestigious history than us. We're on a upswing after some very tough times and the future looks very bright for us but let's not get delusional. There's no reason we can't be a Luton, Brentford or Bournemouth and punch above our weight but we've got an awful long way to go and it will take some excellent management off the field. Yes they both get big crowds, but they aren't big teams anymore and unlikely to see the PL again. Just like Stoke. I haven't got any delusions of grandeur and I'd be happy with a mid table L1 team, for now. The point is we're on the up and they aren't.
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Post by Barmy Blue Army on Feb 11, 2024 7:27:31 GMT
Yeah Sunderland 6th in the Championship and averaging 40k, Wednesday on a slump but averaging 25k. Both with much more prestigious history than us. We're on a upswing after some very tough times and the future looks very bright for us but let's not get delusional. There's no reason we can't be a Luton, Brentford or Bournemouth and punch above our weight but we've got an awful long way to go and it will take some excellent management off the field. Yes they both get big crowds, but they aren't big teams anymore and unlikely to see the PL again. Just like Stoke. I haven't got any delusions of grandeur and I'd be happy with a mid table L1 team, for now. The point is we're on the up and they aren't. Except Sunderland are in the Championship POs. I'd say both are far more likely than us currently to make the PL even if us and Wednesday are in same league next season. I love County and have really high hopes for our future but Sunderland and Wednesday are bigger clubs than us - that's just a fact.
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Post by nelly on Feb 11, 2024 7:29:01 GMT
Yes they both get big crowds, but they aren't big teams anymore and unlikely to see the PL again. Just like Stoke. I haven't got any delusions of grandeur and I'd be happy with a mid table L1 team, for now. The point is we're on the up and they aren't. Except Sunderland are in the Championship POs. I'd say both are far more likely than us currently to make the PL even if us and Wednesday are in same league next season. I love County and have really high hopes for our future but Sunderland and Wednesday are bigger clubs than us - that's just a fact. Never mind it'll soon be Christmas 🎄
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Post by timberwolf on Feb 11, 2024 9:31:58 GMT
Yes they both get big crowds, but they aren't big teams anymore and unlikely to see the PL again. Just like Stoke. I haven't got any delusions of grandeur and I'd be happy with a mid table L1 team, for now. The point is we're on the up and they aren't. Except Sunderland are in the Championship POs. I'd say both are far more likely than us currently to make the PL even if us and Wednesday are in same league next season. I love County and have really high hopes for our future but Sunderland and Wednesday are bigger clubs than us - that's just a fact. Exactly and they,ll all will have more fans than we,ll ever have even if the ground capacities were all the same. We are going through one of the best times in our history but wednesday are going through one of their worst and sunderland are just sunderland one step forward and another back as they have been for 60 odd years.
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Post by suedehead on Feb 11, 2024 14:44:38 GMT
Because of the things you mention (money and ambition) and the chance to manage one of the biggest 10-15 clubs in the country - which Sunderland and Wednesday are. You say it might go wrong, what if it goes right? What if he’s the one to return either of them to the Premier League? Or even just have them challenging? Sheffield Wednesday are nowhere near the top 10-15 sides in the country.. and Sunderland are a massive u derachiever. You don’t got to those clubs unless they’ve got huge new funding in place. It’s easy to keep Challinor.. just pay him what he’s worth. The rest is All in place for him. Didn’t say they were a top 15 side. But there aren’t 15 bigger clubs in England than Sunderland. The likes of Fulham, Brentford, Brighton, Palace, Luton, Burnley etc aren’t anywhere near Sunderland.
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Post by timberwolf on Feb 13, 2024 10:50:13 GMT
Sheffield Wednesday are nowhere near the top 10-15 sides in the country.. and Sunderland are a massive u derachiever. You don’t got to those clubs unless they’ve got huge new funding in place. It’s easy to keep Challinor.. just pay him what he’s worth. The rest is All in place for him. Didn’t say they were a top 15 side. But there aren’t 15 bigger clubs in England than Sunderland. The likes of Fulham, Brentford, Brighton, Palace, Luton, Burnley etc aren’t anywhere near Sunderland. Well sunderland are certainly in the top 15 where fans leave the earliest when they are getting beaten. The only place on a bad day for them where you wait till the bitter end, clap your team off to avoid the traffic.
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