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Post by suedehead on Feb 13, 2024 16:08:57 GMT
Darren Moore gone to Port Vale.
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Post by philtheglass on Feb 13, 2024 16:09:12 GMT
Darren Moore - new Port Vale manager on five & a half year contract.
One of those managers that hasn't really done an awful lot, yet still manages to get a job...five & a half years is a real gamble
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Post by suedehead on Feb 13, 2024 16:20:08 GMT
Darren Moore - new Port Vale manager on five & a half year contract. One of those managers that hasn't really done an awful lot, yet still manages to get a job...five & a half years is a real gamble Think that's a bit harsh. Had West Brom 4th in the Championship after some strong results with an already dead buried side in the Prem. Was then poached by Wednesday after doing a good job at Doncaster. Took them back into the Championship before leaving, having taken them to the play offs the season before (amassing 181 points over two seasons). Given their owner and the stuff you see written about him, don't blame him for going. Didn't work out at Huddersfield, that's the only real blot on his record.
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Post by desmond on Feb 13, 2024 16:24:12 GMT
Darren Moore - new Port Vale manager on five & a half year contract. One of those managers that hasn't really done an awful lot, yet still manages to get a job...five & a half years is a real gamble Five and a half year deal is madness.
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Post by scfc29 on Feb 13, 2024 16:40:46 GMT
Darren Moore - new Port Vale manager on five & a half year contract. One of those managers that hasn't really done an awful lot, yet still manages to get a job...five & a half years is a real gamble Think that's a bit harsh. Had West Brom 4th in the Championship after some strong results with an already dead buried side in the Prem. Was then poached by Wednesday after doing a good job at Doncaster. Took them back into the Championship before leaving, having taken them to the play offs the season before (amassing 181 points over two seasons). Given their owner and the stuff you see written about him, don't blame him for going. Didn't work out at Huddersfield, that's the only real blot on his record. Not sure if scraping promotion with Sheff Wednesday at the second attempt in league 1 can be seen as too much of a success. Still a bit of a coup for Port Vale mind, I see him as a good mid table/playoff level league 1 manager. 5 year contract clearly convinced him.
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Post by sherbertdab on Feb 13, 2024 17:03:09 GMT
Looks like Darren’s agents on here…. wasted WB gold plated parachute payments but why on earth are PV offering a five year + contract to a guy who at best has the most average record at well funded clubs. Suits me in that if we go up there’s one team who won’t be winning much unless of course Robbie is starting his take over and wants his sort of guys in place.
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Post by Waldorf on Feb 13, 2024 17:08:37 GMT
Looks like Darren’s agents on here…. wasted WB gold plated parachute payments but why on earth are PV offering a five year + contract to a guy who at best has the most average record at well funded clubs. Suits me in that if we go up there’s one team who won’t be winning much unless of course Robbie is starting his take over and wants his sort of guys in place. I've mentioned it on here before but Allardyce was on a podcast and said the length of these deals is rarely relevant when it comes to paying someone off. There'll either be a pre agreed pay off, or it'll be agreed after the sacking (he said about a year's money was the norm).
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Post by suedehead on Feb 13, 2024 17:26:28 GMT
Think that's a bit harsh. Had West Brom 4th in the Championship after some strong results with an already dead buried side in the Prem. Was then poached by Wednesday after doing a good job at Doncaster. Took them back into the Championship before leaving, having taken them to the play offs the season before (amassing 181 points over two seasons). Given their owner and the stuff you see written about him, don't blame him for going. Didn't work out at Huddersfield, that's the only real blot on his record. Not sure if scraping promotion with Sheff Wednesday at the second attempt in league 1 can be seen as too much of a success. Still a bit of a coup for Port Vale mind, I see him as a good mid table/playoff level league 1 manager. 5 year contract clearly convinced him. 96 points is hardly scraping promotion is it? He was up against two of the highest ever points tallies at that level. And whether he scraped it or not, he still got them up.
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Post by timberwolf on Feb 13, 2024 19:26:07 GMT
Looks like Darren’s agents on here…. wasted WB gold plated parachute payments but why on earth are PV offering a five year + contract to a guy who at best has the most average record at well funded clubs. Suits me in that if we go up there’s one team who won’t be winning much unless of course Robbie is starting his take over and wants his sort of guys in place. I've mentioned it on here before but Allardyce was on a podcast and said the length of these deals is rarely relevant when it comes to paying someone off. There'll either be a pre agreed pay off, or it'll be agreed after the sacking (he said about a year's money was the norm). Wonder if he had a word with Jim before taking the poisoned chalace at vale. Get the best deal as possible from them buggers.
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Post by mat1scfc on Feb 13, 2024 23:39:30 GMT
Mansfield fans confused at the team that won 9-2 before KO
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Post by Josh on Feb 14, 2024 8:51:18 GMT
Looks like Darren’s agents on here…. wasted WB gold plated parachute payments but why on earth are PV offering a five year + contract to a guy who at best has the most average record at well funded clubs. Suits me in that if we go up there’s one team who won’t be winning much unless of course Robbie is starting his take over and wants his sort of guys in place. I've mentioned it on here before but Allardyce was on a podcast and said the length of these deals is rarely relevant when it comes to paying someone off. There'll either be a pre agreed pay off, or it'll be agreed after the sacking (he said about a year's money was the norm). Yes, McAnthony on his podcast said the same. The 5 year contract actually protects the club rather than the manager.
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Post by suedehead on Feb 14, 2024 12:27:06 GMT
Taken from The Athletic about Wrexham and how they travel.
Just why there should be such a marked difference between Wrexham’s form at home and away — at the Racecourse Ground they boast 35 points and 43 goals, both the highest in League Two — is made all the more puzzling by the players enjoying the very best when it comes to preparation.
The 220-mile trip to Sutton was a prime example.
Where every other northern-based club in League Two would face a bum-numbing five- or six-hour bus journey from north Wales to Gander Green Lane, Wrexham travelled in style via a 10am flight from Manchester. They were then bussed to a suburban London hotel for an afternoon sleep and a pre-match meal before arriving at the stadium 90 minutes before kick-off.
The players have King Charles to thank for this cossetted existence. His visit with the Queen Consort in December 2022, to mark Wrexham being granted city status, unwittingly set in motion a chain of events that has since led to the squad flying to several long-distance away games.
A desire for the team to greet the royal party at the Racecourse on the Friday lunchtime before taking on Eastleigh 220 miles away on England’s south coast the following afternoon meant the usual practice of making the journey by coach had to be abandoned.
Instead, the club did what only the Premier League elite usually do by chartering a plane south from Manchester. Wrexham beat Eastleigh comfortably, 2-0, and a new practice was born — the players benefiting hugely from the reduced travelling time and being able to spend more time at home in their own beds.
This also allowed for better-quality training and recovery, especially in the week last March when Wrexham travelled to Maidenhead United, just west of London, and Dagenham & Redbridge, in the far east of the capital, inside four days. Ordinarily, both those trips would involve hours spent on the road, in stark contrast to a flying time of less than 45 minutes.
It was the same post-Sutton, with the players flying back north at midnight to ensure they were home in time to get a decent night’s sleep. The squad will now have a day off before returning to training on Thursday to prepare for Saturday’s home match against Notts County.
Hiring a plane is not cheap, of course, and the club have also been criticised because of the environmental implications. But they feel the incremental gains on the field justify the expense. It was the same with the cryotherapy chambers brought in to help improve player recovery during last year’s hectic February, when, along with seven league fixtures, the 28 days also included an FA Cup fourth-round replay away to then Championship, now Premier League side Sheffield United.
“There’s not much training now,” said Parkinson about this run of six games inside 18 days (Sutton was match two). “Thursday will be the second-day recovery for those who played, maybe we go swimming or just have a walk out on the pitches. Just to stretch the legs.
“Kev (Kevin Mulholland, Wrexham’s head of medical) and his team are great. Their work started from the moment the final whistle went, to get everyone ready for the weekend.”
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Post by mat1scfc on Feb 14, 2024 12:39:27 GMT
Taken from The Athletic about Wrexham and how they travel. Just why there should be such a marked difference between Wrexham’s form at home and away — at the Racecourse Ground they boast 35 points and 43 goals, both the highest in League Two — is made all the more puzzling by the players enjoying the very best when it comes to preparation.
The 220-mile trip to Sutton was a prime example.
Where every other northern-based club in League Two would face a bum-numbing five- or six-hour bus journey from north Wales to Gander Green Lane, Wrexham travelled in style via a 10am flight from Manchester. They were then bussed to a suburban London hotel for an afternoon sleep and a pre-match meal before arriving at the stadium 90 minutes before kick-off.
The players have King Charles to thank for this cossetted existence. His visit with the Queen Consort in December 2022, to mark Wrexham being granted city status, unwittingly set in motion a chain of events that has since led to the squad flying to several long-distance away games.
A desire for the team to greet the royal party at the Racecourse on the Friday lunchtime before taking on Eastleigh 220 miles away on England’s south coast the following afternoon meant the usual practice of making the journey by coach had to be abandoned.
Instead, the club did what only the Premier League elite usually do by chartering a plane south from Manchester. Wrexham beat Eastleigh comfortably, 2-0, and a new practice was born — the players benefiting hugely from the reduced travelling time and being able to spend more time at home in their own beds.
This also allowed for better-quality training and recovery, especially in the week last March when Wrexham travelled to Maidenhead United, just west of London, and Dagenham & Redbridge, in the far east of the capital, inside four days. Ordinarily, both those trips would involve hours spent on the road, in stark contrast to a flying time of less than 45 minutes.
It was the same post-Sutton, with the players flying back north at midnight to ensure they were home in time to get a decent night’s sleep. The squad will now have a day off before returning to training on Thursday to prepare for Saturday’s home match against Notts County.
Hiring a plane is not cheap, of course, and the club have also been criticised because of the environmental implications. But they feel the incremental gains on the field justify the expense. It was the same with the cryotherapy chambers brought in to help improve player recovery during last year’s hectic February, when, along with seven league fixtures, the 28 days also included an FA Cup fourth-round replay away to then Championship, now Premier League side Sheffield United.
“There’s not much training now,” said Parkinson about this run of six games inside 18 days (Sutton was match two). “Thursday will be the second-day recovery for those who played, maybe we go swimming or just have a walk out on the pitches. Just to stretch the legs.
“Kev (Kevin Mulholland, Wrexham’s head of medical) and his team are great. Their work started from the moment the final whistle went, to get everyone ready for the weekend.” what's the point about then being allowed city status in London
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Post by suedehead on Feb 14, 2024 13:01:10 GMT
Taken from The Athletic about Wrexham and how they travel. Just why there should be such a marked difference between Wrexham’s form at home and away — at the Racecourse Ground they boast 35 points and 43 goals, both the highest in League Two — is made all the more puzzling by the players enjoying the very best when it comes to preparation.
The 220-mile trip to Sutton was a prime example.
Where every other northern-based club in League Two would face a bum-numbing five- or six-hour bus journey from north Wales to Gander Green Lane, Wrexham travelled in style via a 10am flight from Manchester. They were then bussed to a suburban London hotel for an afternoon sleep and a pre-match meal before arriving at the stadium 90 minutes before kick-off.
The players have King Charles to thank for this cossetted existence. His visit with the Queen Consort in December 2022, to mark Wrexham being granted city status, unwittingly set in motion a chain of events that has since led to the squad flying to several long-distance away games.
A desire for the team to greet the royal party at the Racecourse on the Friday lunchtime before taking on Eastleigh 220 miles away on England’s south coast the following afternoon meant the usual practice of making the journey by coach had to be abandoned.
Instead, the club did what only the Premier League elite usually do by chartering a plane south from Manchester. Wrexham beat Eastleigh comfortably, 2-0, and a new practice was born — the players benefiting hugely from the reduced travelling time and being able to spend more time at home in their own beds.
This also allowed for better-quality training and recovery, especially in the week last March when Wrexham travelled to Maidenhead United, just west of London, and Dagenham & Redbridge, in the far east of the capital, inside four days. Ordinarily, both those trips would involve hours spent on the road, in stark contrast to a flying time of less than 45 minutes.
It was the same post-Sutton, with the players flying back north at midnight to ensure they were home in time to get a decent night’s sleep. The squad will now have a day off before returning to training on Thursday to prepare for Saturday’s home match against Notts County.
Hiring a plane is not cheap, of course, and the club have also been criticised because of the environmental implications. But they feel the incremental gains on the field justify the expense. It was the same with the cryotherapy chambers brought in to help improve player recovery during last year’s hectic February, when, along with seven league fixtures, the 28 days also included an FA Cup fourth-round replay away to then Championship, now Premier League side Sheffield United.
“There’s not much training now,” said Parkinson about this run of six games inside 18 days (Sutton was match two). “Thursday will be the second-day recovery for those who played, maybe we go swimming or just have a walk out on the pitches. Just to stretch the legs.
“Kev (Kevin Mulholland, Wrexham’s head of medical) and his team are great. Their work started from the moment the final whistle went, to get everyone ready for the weekend.” what's the point about then being allowed city status in London Eh? The article references Wrexham being granted city status the day before they played Eastleigh away.
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Post by desmond on Feb 14, 2024 13:07:28 GMT
Taken from The Athletic about Wrexham and how they travel. Just why there should be such a marked difference between Wrexham’s form at home and away — at the Racecourse Ground they boast 35 points and 43 goals, both the highest in League Two — is made all the more puzzling by the players enjoying the very best when it comes to preparation.
The 220-mile trip to Sutton was a prime example.
Where every other northern-based club in League Two would face a bum-numbing five- or six-hour bus journey from north Wales to Gander Green Lane, Wrexham travelled in style via a 10am flight from Manchester. They were then bussed to a suburban London hotel for an afternoon sleep and a pre-match meal before arriving at the stadium 90 minutes before kick-off.
The players have King Charles to thank for this cossetted existence. His visit with the Queen Consort in December 2022, to mark Wrexham being granted city status, unwittingly set in motion a chain of events that has since led to the squad flying to several long-distance away games.
A desire for the team to greet the royal party at the Racecourse on the Friday lunchtime before taking on Eastleigh 220 miles away on England’s south coast the following afternoon meant the usual practice of making the journey by coach had to be abandoned.
Instead, the club did what only the Premier League elite usually do by chartering a plane south from Manchester. Wrexham beat Eastleigh comfortably, 2-0, and a new practice was born — the players benefiting hugely from the reduced travelling time and being able to spend more time at home in their own beds.
This also allowed for better-quality training and recovery, especially in the week last March when Wrexham travelled to Maidenhead United, just west of London, and Dagenham & Redbridge, in the far east of the capital, inside four days. Ordinarily, both those trips would involve hours spent on the road, in stark contrast to a flying time of less than 45 minutes.
It was the same post-Sutton, with the players flying back north at midnight to ensure they were home in time to get a decent night’s sleep. The squad will now have a day off before returning to training on Thursday to prepare for Saturday’s home match against Notts County.
Hiring a plane is not cheap, of course, and the club have also been criticised because of the environmental implications. But they feel the incremental gains on the field justify the expense. It was the same with the cryotherapy chambers brought in to help improve player recovery during last year’s hectic February, when, along with seven league fixtures, the 28 days also included an FA Cup fourth-round replay away to then Championship, now Premier League side Sheffield United.
“There’s not much training now,” said Parkinson about this run of six games inside 18 days (Sutton was match two). “Thursday will be the second-day recovery for those who played, maybe we go swimming or just have a walk out on the pitches. Just to stretch the legs.
“Kev (Kevin Mulholland, Wrexham’s head of medical) and his team are great. Their work started from the moment the final whistle went, to get everyone ready for the weekend.”I believe we travelled the day before the Grimsby game and stayed over which was a little surprising given the distance
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