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Post by gibbo on May 9, 2024 12:19:45 GMT
Some more info on the Sky stuff from The Athletic. I guess we better get used to Friday night, early Saturday and Sunday lunchtime games. Six games will be shown in the Saturday lunchtime slot, and the rest will be split between Friday night and Sunday lunchtime. Sky Sports are not currently thinking about adding any other kick-off slots.I don't think we will, from the Sky Sports Link: two League One and two League Two matches all broadcast live at 12:30pm on Saturdays.So we're only going to be moved to 12.30 for a few games, Championship will fill the Friday and Sunday slots (as they do now).
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Post by suedehead on May 9, 2024 12:29:24 GMT
Some more info on the Sky stuff from The Athletic. I guess we better get used to Friday night, early Saturday and Sunday lunchtime games. Six games will be shown in the Saturday lunchtime slot, and the rest will be split between Friday night and Sunday lunchtime. Sky Sports are not currently thinking about adding any other kick-off slots.I don't think we will, from the Sky Sports Link: two League One and two League Two matches all broadcast live at 12:30pm on Saturdays.So we're only going to be moved to 12.30 for a few games, Championship will fill the Friday and Sunday slots (as they do now). We'll see. But even one Saturday lunchtime game a season is a travesty. And if/when we do get to the Championship we'll be all over the place. Sky have shown there's zero consideration for match going fans as the likes of Sunderland have been away at Ipswich and Southampton for lunchtime kick offs in recent times. They'd think nothing of putting us at Plymouth at 12:30 or 8pm on a Friday. I don't care what anyone says, that will affect away attendances. Look at the Crawley Monday night attendances compared to Sutton a couple of weeks later. We had plenty on here saying they weren't going to bother with Crawley on the Monday and would just stream it instead.
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Post by Stranded Hatter on May 9, 2024 12:36:39 GMT
Some more info on the Sky stuff from The Athletic. I guess we better get used to Friday night, early Saturday and Sunday lunchtime games. Each weekend will have 10 live EFL matches, half of which will be from the Championship. These will be screened outside the 2.45pm to 5.15pm period on a Saturday that remains blocked under Article 48 of UEFA’s statutes, whereby member nations can select a two-and-a-half-hour weekend slot that sees live football banned from broadcast to protect attendances.
This means there will be 26 games in the traditional 3pm slot each Saturday across the EFL. However, the blocked period does not apply to the opening weekend, so they will show games at that time.
Six games will be shown in the Saturday lunchtime slot, and the rest will be split between Friday night and Sunday lunchtime. Sky Sports are not currently thinking about adding any other kick-off slots.This is going to properly suck.
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Post by The Real Exile on May 9, 2024 12:39:41 GMT
Some more info on the Sky stuff from The Athletic. I guess we better get used to Friday night, early Saturday and Sunday lunchtime games. Each weekend will have 10 live EFL matches, half of which will be from the Championship. These will be screened outside the 2.45pm to 5.15pm period on a Saturday that remains blocked under Article 48 of UEFA’s statutes, whereby member nations can select a two-and-a-half-hour weekend slot that sees live football banned from broadcast to protect attendances.
This means there will be 26 games in the traditional 3pm slot each Saturday across the EFL. However, the blocked period does not apply to the opening weekend, so they will show games at that time.
Six games will be shown in the Saturday lunchtime slot, and the rest will be split between Friday night and Sunday lunchtime. Sky Sports are not currently thinking about adding any other kick-off slots.This is going to properly suck. Yep, Saturday lunchtime is a properly miserable slot.
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Post by gibbo on May 9, 2024 12:42:21 GMT
We'll see. But even one Saturday lunchtime game a season is a travesty. And if/when we do get to the Championship we'll be all over the place. Sky have shown there's zero consideration for match going fans as the likes of Sunderland have been away at Ipswich and Southampton for lunchtime kick offs in recent times. The clubs surely have agreed to this deal though? (which includes ourselves) And I doubt the clubs have been hoodwinked by Sky about the Kick Off times, they would have known full well what the implications were per Kick Off's when signing the deal so not sure why the blame is always put on the TV companies, the deal on offer must have made it worthwhile for the clubs to accept some minor inconvenience? As a Sky Sports subscriber I benefit greatly from this, I can watch the streams without paying extra (and likely a better user experience than County Live).
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Post by herbiedumplings on May 9, 2024 12:43:43 GMT
This is going to properly suck. Yep, Saturday lunchtime is a properly miserable slot. Can’t even blame that fleece and tie combo-wearing idiot who now works for Wrexham for this one…
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Post by mat1scfc on May 9, 2024 12:48:43 GMT
We'll see. But even one Saturday lunchtime game a season is a travesty. And if/when we do get to the Championship we'll be all over the place. Sky have shown there's zero consideration for match going fans as the likes of Sunderland have been away at Ipswich and Southampton for lunchtime kick offs in recent times. The clubs surely have agreed to this deal though? (which includes ourselves) And I doubt the clubs have been hoodwinked by Sky about the Kick Off times, they would have known full well what the implications were per Kick Off's when signing the deal so not sure why the blame is always put on the TV companies, the deal on offer must have made it worthwhile for the clubs to accept some minor inconvenience? As a Sky Sports subscriber I benefit greatly from this, I can watch the streams without paying extra (and likely a better user experience than County Live). the Accrington owner has said otherwise. They were told by sky and agreed but they weren't told all the info and they don't know how much it will affect finances
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Post by suedehead on May 9, 2024 12:53:03 GMT
We'll see. But even one Saturday lunchtime game a season is a travesty. And if/when we do get to the Championship we'll be all over the place. Sky have shown there's zero consideration for match going fans as the likes of Sunderland have been away at Ipswich and Southampton for lunchtime kick offs in recent times. The clubs surely have agreed to this deal though? (which includes ourselves) And I doubt the clubs have been hoodwinked by Sky about the Kick Off times, they would have known full well what the implications were per Kick Off's when signing the deal so not sure why the blame is always put on the TV companies, the deal on offer must have made it worthwhile for the clubs to accept some minor inconvenience? As a Sky Sports subscriber I benefit greatly from this, I can watch the streams without paying extra (and likely a better user experience than County Live). Even if the the clubs were, which I don't believe they were, I'm not sure they'd put the fans first, especially the considerations of away fans, when there's a big pot of money being waved in front of them. On the user experience, it won't be anything like a proper live game that Sky show. L1 games will have four cameras, L2 games just two. No idea is going to be doing the commentary either, likely some bods we've never heard of given there's so many games to cover.
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Post by gibbo on May 9, 2024 12:55:17 GMT
On the user experience, it won't be anything like a proper live game that Sky show. Wasn't saying it would, more a slight on the County Live where it's fiddly to try and get to the right link to pay, login, etc, that's where it will be easier.
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Post by gibbo on May 9, 2024 12:56:21 GMT
the Accrington owner has said otherwise. They were told by sky and agreed but they weren't told all the info and they don't know how much it will affect finances That's more fool the owners though, by signing a contract for which they didn't have all the info.
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Post by Stranded Hatter on May 9, 2024 14:08:35 GMT
We'll see. But even one Saturday lunchtime game a season is a travesty. And if/when we do get to the Championship we'll be all over the place. Sky have shown there's zero consideration for match going fans as the likes of Sunderland have been away at Ipswich and Southampton for lunchtime kick offs in recent times. The clubs surely have agreed to this deal though? (which includes ourselves) And I doubt the clubs have been hoodwinked by Sky about the Kick Off times, they would have known full well what the implications were per Kick Off's when signing the deal so not sure why the blame is always put on the TV companies, the deal on offer must have made it worthwhile for the clubs to accept some minor inconvenience? As a Sky Sports subscriber I benefit greatly from this, I can watch the streams without paying extra (and likely a better user experience than County Live). Clubs might have "agreed" to things but a) do you think any of them had a choice and b) that doesn't change the fact it's shit for fans. As for the experience v County Live, honestly I use it all the time and very very rarely actually have any issues. I prefer listening to JK over half of Sky commentators as well.
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Post by Barmy Blue Army on May 9, 2024 14:19:55 GMT
Horsfall behind in the semi. Looks likely to be 2 Notts County players head to head in the final which is quite remarkable given they finished 14th. Just shows you how lopsided their team/approach is. Lee currently has 47% of the vote vs Langstaff, which is a surprise. Wrexham's fanbase voting for their own. General consensus on RP seems to be that he tired in the second half of the season and was nowhere near as effective. Mullin was their POTS, Cannon second (who they now rave about after a poor start) and Lee third.
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Post by gibbo on May 9, 2024 14:21:20 GMT
Clubs might have "agreed" to things but a) do you think any of them had a choice and b) that doesn't change the fact it's shit for fans. What's the other alternative though? No TV revenue? that option would very quickly become even shitter for fans when investment in players, etc, start to recede due to a lack of income.
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Post by Mozzer on May 9, 2024 14:27:05 GMT
One thing might be to stand up to them a bit. Football organisations are generally far too eager to pander to the TV companies, forgetting that the 'product' is the key bargaining chip. There does have to be give and take in any negotiation but it feels like there's frequently too much give (usually from fans who have little to no say).
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Post by gibbo on May 9, 2024 15:02:38 GMT
One thing might be to stand up to them a bit. Football organisations are generally far too eager to pander to the TV companies, forgetting that the 'product' is the key bargaining chip. There does have to be give and take in any negotiation but it feels like there's frequently too much give (usually from fans who have little to no say). Not sure how you stand up to them here though without cutting your nose off to spite your face? Sky want to pay X amount more for TV rights going forward but in return want 6 to 10 (approx there) more of your games a season to be shown on TV which means a change of Kick Off time. If you say 'we're not moving Kick Off times' that X amount becomes considerably less (or becomes nothing at all). They're not going to agree to pay the same amount but accept less games being shown.
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