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Post by herbiedumplings on May 9, 2024 15:11:21 GMT
One thing might be to stand up to them a bit. Football organisations are generally far too eager to pander to the TV companies, forgetting that the 'product' is the key bargaining chip. There does have to be give and take in any negotiation but it feels like there's frequently too much give (usually from fans who have little to no say). Not sure how you stand up to them here though without cutting your nose off to spite your face? Sky want to pay X amount more for TV rights going forward but in return want 6 to 10 (approx there) more of your games a season to be shown on TV which means a change of Kick Off time. If you say 'we're not moving Kick Off times' that X amount becomes considerably less (or becomes nothing at all). They're not going to agree to pay the same amount but accept less games being shown. Having said all that, this is live 3rd and 4th Division football we’re talking about: ITV Sport, anyone? They had live 2nd Division (i.e Championship) football on offer too, and still couldn’t make it work. Is it supposed to be a loss-leader for Premier League subscriptions or something?
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Post by gibbo on May 9, 2024 15:15:50 GMT
Having said all that, this is live 3rd and 4th Division football we’re talking about: ITV Sport, anyone? They had live 2nd Division (i.e Championship) football on offer too, and still couldn’t make it work. Is it supposed to be a loss-leader for Premier League subscriptions or something? Per TV Coverage, going back further than that, people used to moan something rotten when we only got a couple of minutes on Granada Soccer Night, particularly compared to the 3 minutes Crewe and Tranmere both got - Elton Wel(biased) doing.
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Post by Mozzer on May 9, 2024 15:52:34 GMT
Yeah, but I think that was because we got 30 secs of them laughing at Big Kev or whatever as we scored goals for fun and gatecrashed divisions and play-offs, whilst they did 5 minutes on Crewe's Pretty Boys doing f*ck all in mid-table. Or Stoke, who weren't even in Granada's area. It wasn't 'Why do we only get 30 seconds on a Friday night show when we should be getting live coverage of us away at Exeter?'
My thing is, going back to your previous question, how much money is any of this worth? Of course money matters. But to what extent should it be relevant to what you're prepared to put up with? And how hard does anyone fight in that regard? Not very, it seems to me. It seems much more 'How much are you giving us anf what do you want us to do for it?'
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Post by TC on May 9, 2024 16:21:09 GMT
We'll see. But even one Saturday lunchtime game a season is a travesty. And if/when we do get to the Championship we'll be all over the place. Sky have shown there's zero consideration for match going fans as the likes of Sunderland have been away at Ipswich and Southampton for lunchtime kick offs in recent times. The clubs surely have agreed to this deal though? (which includes ourselves) And I doubt the clubs have been hoodwinked by Sky about the Kick Off times, they would have known full well what the implications were per Kick Off's when signing the deal so not sure why the blame is always put on the TV companies, the deal on offer must have made it worthwhile for the clubs to accept some minor inconvenience? As a Sky Sports subscriber I benefit greatly from this, I can watch the streams without paying extra (and likely a better user experience than County Live). There must be plenty of Sky Sports subscribers amongst our fan base and plenty more who will sign up for next season (me included). On a freezing cold Tuesday night, it will tempt many to watch at home.
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Post by Bredburyhatter on May 9, 2024 19:41:57 GMT
The clubs surely have agreed to this deal though? (which includes ourselves) And I doubt the clubs have been hoodwinked by Sky about the Kick Off times, they would have known full well what the implications were per Kick Off's when signing the deal so not sure why the blame is always put on the TV companies, the deal on offer must have made it worthwhile for the clubs to accept some minor inconvenience? As a Sky Sports subscriber I benefit greatly from this, I can watch the streams without paying extra (and likely a better user experience than County Live). There must be plenty of Sky Sports subscribers amongst our fan base and plenty more who will sign up for next season (me included). On a freezing cold Tuesday night, it will tempt many to watch at home. I hope we can somehow create a scheme where ST holders can resell their seats next season, to allow County fans to sit in the Main Stand, Cheadle End or Pop Side, rather than have to buy tickets for the shitty Railway End, and look at the many empty seats available in the decent parts of EP.
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Post by sk8ballboy on May 9, 2024 20:15:25 GMT
Junior football leagues are predominantly 9am to 2pm on Saturdays and Sundays. Any lunchtime kick offs will impact these kids and they have to choose between County and playing. What a load of bullshit.
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Post by vicar on May 9, 2024 20:41:31 GMT
Chesterfield have signed Kane Drummond from the Milkies, he looks an exciting player but then again Alex Curran does at that level.
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Post by timberwolf on May 10, 2024 7:30:03 GMT
Junior football leagues are predominantly 9am to 2pm on Saturdays and Sundays. Any lunchtime kick offs will impact these kids and they have to choose between County and playing. What a load of bullshit. Adults sunday league finish of games mean you have a choice of playing or watching if the KO time is 12.30. On saturday even with a traditional 3pm KO you either play or watch the odd game if you haven't got a fixture. Until we had friday night football the only games i watched were those in august or mid week.
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Post by timberwolf on May 10, 2024 7:34:32 GMT
the Accrington owner has said otherwise. They were told by sky and agreed but they weren't told all the info and they don't know how much it will affect finances Cannot believe a business man would not have checked every single sentence in his firm before he signed anything. If there is more free money about in football they'd sign their life away for it on a blank sheet of paper and leave the wording to them.
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Post by timberwolf on May 10, 2024 7:40:05 GMT
On the user experience, it won't be anything like a proper live game that Sky show. Wasn't saying it would, more a slight on the County Live where it's fiddly to try and get to the right link to pay, login, etc, that's where it will be easier. Funny how being one of the worst on here regarding anything to do with the modern world i have had no trouble whatsoever with our live streams. Plus it is nearly a fiver per game cheaper than it will be next season per game if you have not a subscription for the sports. Do not have sky or any extra pay channels as sports is more or less just about County with the odd pools game and have little or no interest in the rest.
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Post by alkringtonhatter on May 10, 2024 7:40:36 GMT
Estimated £450K in the club bank account from the new Sky deal. That’s 8.5k extra per week that can go in Louie Barry’s bank account!
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Post by timberwolf on May 10, 2024 8:45:13 GMT
Estimated £450K in the club bank account from the new Sky deal. That’s 8.5k extra per week that can go in Louie Barry’s bank account! That will more or less be the case across the game. Will not stop another club going into admin or getting a points deduction for late paying of even higher wages.
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Post by atmosphere on May 10, 2024 8:48:47 GMT
Yep new TV deals just benefit players and agents to be honest, thats where the extra money will be going from most teams.
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Post by timberwolf on May 10, 2024 9:09:05 GMT
Yep new TV deals just benefit players and agents to be honest, thats where the extra money will be going from most teams. Yes and even makes the gap between league and the NL clubs even higher. Makes losing your league status a bit more of a disaster now.
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Post by pugwash on May 10, 2024 14:37:46 GMT
Most of your players have just had a 50% pay rise like my lot last year.
£440k will just add a player or 2 on a free transfer won't it ?
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