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Post by Barmy Blue Army on Aug 29, 2024 16:00:10 GMT
Looking like Mo Faal and Josh Adam (released City U21 who has been training with them) for Wrexham. So not their usual recruitment with a big, big signing. Arguably smarter. I've heard mixed reviews on Mo Faal but he's got very good physical attributes, scored goals at L2 and is young (21) so could learn off Palmer and Fletcher (who will likely leave in the summer) as well as take minutes. I'd love to know if it's by choice though. Reported offers/interest for Will Keane, Bradshaw and Michael Smith from the Championship - all more their usual profile - that seem off. Edit - Keane definitely off. www.pnefc.net/news/2024/august/29/will-keane-extends-pne-deal/
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Post by mat1scfc on Aug 29, 2024 19:45:18 GMT
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Post by Stranded Hatter on Aug 29, 2024 23:14:06 GMT
For me it's a question of whether you bend over backwards to accommodate the bigger clubs in order to maximise revenue (and you're probably right tbh), or keep the integrity of a competition. For me, it's the latter. I bet Mark Stott wouldn't agree with you on that though ?? I just don't think we can be too principled / romantic on these sorts of things, while at the same time being happy to cheer on Louie Barry every week / get excited about the EP redevelopment, etc, (while also expecting some sort of self-sufficiency / less reliance on Stott putting his hand in his pocket). You can not like the way modern football has gone while still enjoying the team that chose you being successful.
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Post by gibbo on Aug 30, 2024 7:13:35 GMT
I bet Mark Stott wouldn't agree with you on that though ?? I just don't think we can be too principled / romantic on these sorts of things, while at the same time being happy to cheer on Louie Barry every week / get excited about the EP redevelopment, etc, (while also expecting some sort of self-sufficiency / less reliance on Stott putting his hand in his pocket). You can not like the way modern football has gone while still enjoying the team that chose you being successful. Having your cake and eating it though.
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Post by timberwolf on Aug 30, 2024 7:45:12 GMT
Try it and see. I'm bored of English football pandering to clubs that already have too much money and power in ways that allow them to garner more money and power. Enter it properly or don't bother. And award the winners a place in Europe. Get rid of the Trophy and have the League cup as a proper Football League comp. Championship, L1 and L2. Final at Wembley. Or just carry on pandering to the PL teams, allowing their kids into competitions, and letting them join in later on before inevitably going on to win the thing, with squad players in every round until the final. Totally agree with all that. It might actually get more fans to games in both competitions. Just imagine taking a kid to a league cup game who follows the premier league but would feel short changed when the teams are read out and they have only hear of a couple of players. Like us in the trophy as well. Football does not finish at the bottom of the premier league and quite a lot of fans are smelling the coffee watching their local league and non league clubs. Know we are playing well but it would have hard to imagine gates we are getting at level 3 now to those in Danny,s era if City were riding high with united still the leagues top talked about club back then.
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Post by timberwolf on Aug 30, 2024 7:50:25 GMT
It's nice in theory, but sponsorship and broadcast interest would soon go when you take the big boys out. Not to mention that fans currently moaning about things as they stand, would then moan about the fact that there's no incentive to the competition if you've not got the potential to draw a big team. And? Is sponsorship and broadcast interest the only criterion for having a competition? It's the Football League Cup. And if that is the only/main criterion, the EFL seems to be doing pretty well at the moment with sponsorship and TV rights for their exclusive competition. There's also a greater incentive in that more teams could actually win it. But do they. Like the FA Cup its mostly the same old clubs we see in the final even though there is always someone who has a good run but fail near the end with a little help from match officials. Ellary at chesterfield will never be forgotton.
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Post by Barmy Blue Army on Aug 30, 2024 8:26:11 GMT
Looking like Mo Faal and Josh Adam (released City U21 who has been training with them) for Wrexham. So not their usual recruitment with a big, big signing. Arguably smarter. I've heard mixed reviews on Mo Faal but he's got very good physical attributes, scored goals at L2 and is young (21) so could learn off Palmer and Fletcher (who will likely leave in the summer) as well as take minutes. I'd love to know if it's by choice though. Reported offers/interest for Will Keane, Bradshaw and Michael Smith from the Championship - all more their usual profile - that seem off. Edit - Keane definitely off. www.pnefc.net/news/2024/august/29/will-keane-extends-pne-deal/ 500k and sell on for Faal. www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c5y56g33v0ko
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Post by 1994hatter on Aug 30, 2024 8:37:12 GMT
Not sure £500k represents good value for money but we’ll see. Don’t remember him looking particularly special when he played against us for Doncaster last season, but obviously one game is difficult to make a proper judgement from.
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Post by Barmy Blue Army on Aug 30, 2024 8:44:13 GMT
Not sure £500k represents good value for money but we’ll see. Don’t remember him looking particularly special when he played against us for Doncaster last season, but obviously one game is difficult to make a proper judgement from. Also 21 and a bit of tax for deadline day and Wrexham. I'm not sure either though. On paper, he ticks a lot of boxes - young, bit of pace, tall and decent L2 goal return. It fills a much needed gap in their frontline too with Palmer and Fletcher unable to play week in, week out. So I think it's a good pick up for them - though they clearly fancied a proven Championship striker first. Whether it would have been good value for us, I'm not sure. Would it be our record signing under Stott? He'd be behind Tanto and Wootton too limiting his game time and now we've also gone for Barry and Mellon. Loans are the cheaper option but you're of course only renting the player. If Faal kicks on he'll be a million plus player for them. It will be interesting to see how he does.
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Post by scfc29 on Aug 30, 2024 8:44:49 GMT
I rate Faal to be honest and if I was a Wrexham it would be the most excited I’d be about a striker signing Mullin.
However, at £500k feels very steep. Makes our signing of Tanto (twice the player) look incredible value. How much was he, c£100k?
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Post by Barmy Blue Army on Aug 30, 2024 9:08:48 GMT
Surprised he's been available for this long (26, 1 in 3 ST with height, pace and L1 experience and can play wide) but feels a bit desperate by Barnsley on deadline day after other targets have fallen through (reportedly they wanted Faal on loan too).
Unless he's been holding out for big wages? I wonder if we were ever interested?
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Post by timberwolf on Aug 30, 2024 9:41:59 GMT
I rate Faal to be honest and if I was a Wrexham it would be the most excited I’d be about a striker signing Mullin. However, at £500k feels very steep. Makes our signing of Tanto (twice the player) look incredible value. How much was he, c£100k? The fee paid could end up as a noose round his neck with fans who might expect more because of the fee paid and will expect him to hit the ground running and scoring from the kick off. Bit like the Powell wages situation with us expecting more because he is being paid more than others.
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Post by Barmy Blue Army on Aug 30, 2024 9:55:18 GMT
Erm...
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Post by HTC on Aug 30, 2024 10:26:16 GMT
Think I read somewhere (probably on here!) that the financial fair play rules in League One are far less stringent than in the Championship, so Birmingham can fling money around this season buying players much more easily than they can in the Championship, hence making sense to spend big money this season, and then have no problem complying with the rules next year.
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Post by Barmy Blue Army on Aug 30, 2024 10:35:03 GMT
Think I read somewhere (probably on here!) that the financial fair play rules in League One are far less stringent than in the Championship, so Birmingham can fling money around this season buying players much more easily than they can in the Championship, hence making sense to spend big money this season, and then have no problem complying with the rules next year.
Broadly that's my understanding too. I suspect it will have a knock on effect if they are in the Championship next season as transfers get amortised over the life of the contract and the wages will still be being paid. But cross that bridge when you come to it and get out of L1 ASAP I guess is the plan.
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