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Post by stevie57 on Sept 18, 2022 18:23:12 GMT
Bizarre the dislike for Jim as an utter club legend from a minority. It’s f*cking ridiculous. I hope he decides to have another proper crack again with someone like Halifax or even Oldham. If he doesn’t, it takes nothing away from what he has done for us over 25 years as well as being treated badly a few times too. I appreciate Jim’s efforts as much as anyone, and wouldn’t deny his legendary status; the difference between you and me though appears to be that I have taken him off his pedestal and examined the flaws at closer quarters, flaws of which were clearly evident to Danny as well.
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Post by Count de Stockport on Sept 18, 2022 18:24:51 GMT
Bizarre the dislike for Jim as an utter club legend from a minority. It’s f*cking ridiculous. I hope he decides to have another proper crack again with someone like Halifax or even Oldham. If he doesn’t, it takes nothing away from what he has done for us over 25 years as well as being treated badly a few times too. I appreciate Jim’s efforts as much as anyone, and wouldn’t deny his legendary status; the difference between you and me though appears to be that I have taken him off his pedestal and examined the flaws at closer quarters, flaws of which were clearly evident to Danny as well. What were these flaws?
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Post by hedleyverity on Sept 18, 2022 18:26:51 GMT
Bizarre the dislike for Jim as an utter club legend from a minority. It’s f*cking ridiculous. I hope he decides to have another proper crack again with someone like Halifax or even Oldham. If he doesn’t, it takes nothing away from what he has done for us over 25 years as well as being treated badly a few times too. I appreciate Jim’s efforts as much as anyone, and wouldn’t deny his legendary status; the difference between you and me though appears to be that I have taken him off his pedestal and examined the flaws at closer quarters, flaws of which were clearly evident to Danny as well. He was an early Danny signing, can't remember him ever being dropped, was played in multiple positions and was still in the team when Danny left, what were the clearly evident flaws?
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Post by Lincoln Hatter on Sept 18, 2022 18:28:17 GMT
Thanks to Glenn Turner, Jim got us out of NLN; he was the answer at the time - no question. Glen Turner was a very good batsman, but not relevant to this discussion. The season Jim took over from Chris Turner was nothing to do with getting us out of the NLN. Apart from that... *Chris Taylor
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Post by hghatter123 on Sept 18, 2022 18:49:52 GMT
Bizarre the dislike for Jim as an utter club legend from a minority. It’s f*cking ridiculous. I hope he decides to have another proper crack again with someone like Halifax or even Oldham. If he doesn’t, it takes nothing away from what he has done for us over 25 years as well as being treated badly a few times too. I appreciate Jim’s efforts as much as anyone, and wouldn’t deny his legendary status; the difference between you and me though appears to be that I have taken him off his pedestal and examined the flaws at closer quarters, flaws of which were clearly evident to Danny as well. Keep digging pal. Embarrassing.
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Post by Imposter on Sept 18, 2022 19:07:34 GMT
We would not have gone up with Jim because we weren’t good enough; the NLN play-off against Chorley with Jim in charge was no better or worse than Rusk v Hartlepool. Selectivity and omission when recalling past events is a pretty fatal trap. That's extremely and hilariously hypocritical given your selective highlighting of one small part of one matchday during a season in which we won the league whilst omitting the other 41 matches.
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Post by Imposter on Sept 18, 2022 19:12:08 GMT
Grovelling apologies fro the Turner/Taylor faux pas - but the point stands; Glen Taylor got us out of NLN. B*llsh*t. That's an outrageous and disgraceful insult to all those who worked bloody hard to get us out of that division. Will you have the balls to go up to Ben on Saturday and tell him that his Golden Glove that season had f*ck all to do with us winning the league and that it was all down to Glenn Taylor?
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Post by BWScarf on Sept 18, 2022 19:21:24 GMT
Doubt it. His name is mud with the current ownership. If not, it seems a bit disingenuous to use an image that he's front and centre of. Disingenuous, this iteration of Stockport County? Who'd have thought it. Too busy chasing the Bramhall pound to give a f*ck. They'll monetise our loyalty at the drop of a hat though.
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Post by vicar on Sept 18, 2022 19:22:05 GMT
Grovelling apologies fro the Turner/Taylor faux pas - but the point stands; Glen Taylor got us out of NLN. That's mad Steve, Chorley lost a game, they lost others so are you saying everyone who scored against them won us the league?
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Post by ancienthatter on Sept 18, 2022 19:23:20 GMT
Some food for thought from the greatest living legend that we have. James Gannon is pure class. Highly recommend reading the whole thread. I can't imagine that being meant for anyone but DC, I hope he takes it onboard. I hope the Cheadle End takes it on board with less of the boos after the next home again. We can all debate the team picks, the tactics, the ‘luck’, but we should remember that every staff member and player out there wants, and tries,to win every week… we all need to do our bit. I wouldn’t boo, and I still applaud them off the pitch.. and I’m pretty sure you do the same.
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Post by BWScarf on Sept 18, 2022 19:25:46 GMT
We sacked Jim and replaced him with Simon Rusk. Even the best part of two years later that is still one of the most baffling decisions the club has ever made. If Challinor went Jim would still be my number one choice to replace him. And here is revealed the fundamental issue with this forum - a total inability to move forward from entrenched positions, and a perspective reinforced by little more than constant unthinking repetition; a viewpoint as out of touch with reality as so many other threads on this forum. Much as I appreciate everything that Jim has done for the club as a player, manager, and ambassador, he is not the way forward, nor ever was. The removal of Jim was explicable, and rapidly - after a false start (Rusk) - led to an escape from the NL which will elude a number of big teams for the next few years. The Rusk experiment failed, but was in fact worth a try; another manager from this mould may have worked, but Rusk didn’t; football management is not an exact science, and our progress over the next few years will not be straightforward. The removal of Jim was not baffling at all, and I am surprised that you think it was. With respect, most (not all) of your post there is absolute bollocks.
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Post by BWScarf on Sept 18, 2022 19:27:55 GMT
Which is pretty much what I think of your viewpoint, but hey ho! In my opinion we would have gone up of we'd kept him the season he was sacked. We'd have a season at this level under our belt already and would either already be in L1 or challenging hard for it at this point. The decision to get rid of Gannon was baffling, the decision to replace him with Rusk was just ludicrous. If we get rid of DCh, my best case scenario would be Simon Wilson out and Jim Gannon in with whoever he wants to help him with recruitment. That's my viewpoint, make of it what you will. For what it's worth, we are currently a poor League Two team. I can't imagine had Stott not sacked Gannon that we'd be anything less than a poor League Two team now anyway. That's no criticism of Challinor (very hefty criticism of Rusk). But I don't think anyone can say it was a good decision.
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Post by Count de Stockport on Sept 18, 2022 19:31:34 GMT
Grovelling apologies fro the Turner/Taylor faux pas - but the point stands; Glen Taylor got us out of NLN. B*llsh*t. That's an outrageous and disgraceful insult to all those who worked bloody hard to get us out of that division. Will you have the balls to go up to Ben on Saturday and tell him that his Golden Glove that season had f*ck all to do with us winning the league and that it was all down to Glenn Taylor? He hasn't even got the balls to explain to people he'll never meet in person what Jim's flaws were
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Post by Durango95 on Sept 18, 2022 19:32:21 GMT
Bizarre the dislike for Jim as an utter club legend from a minority. It’s f*cking ridiculous. I hope he decides to have another proper crack again with someone like Halifax or even Oldham. If he doesn’t, it takes nothing away from what he has done for us over 25 years as well as being treated badly a few times too. I appreciate Jim’s efforts as much as anyone, and wouldn’t deny his legendary status; the difference between you and me though appears to be that I have taken him off his pedestal and examined the flaws at closer quarters, flaws of which were clearly evident to Danny as well. Every manager has flaws. Some are good though. Rusk only had flaws. An embarrassing part of our history from all responsible.
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Post by BWScarf on Sept 18, 2022 19:36:40 GMT
Bizarre the dislike for Jim as an utter club legend from a minority. It’s f*cking ridiculous. I hope he decides to have another proper crack again with someone like Halifax or even Oldham. If he doesn’t, it takes nothing away from what he has done for us over 25 years as well as being treated badly a few times too. I'd like to see the Venn diagram of people who dislike Gannon and people who support some of the sectarian shit coming out of the Cheadle End yesterday. Very obviously it's not everyone who has a disliking for him, but I'd bet good money there's a large overlap.
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