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Post by Barmy Blue Army on Oct 7, 2023 18:31:05 GMT
It wasn't a tackle. He's planted his foot to take the cross and has just rolled over it. Horrific. Morbid curiosity again got the better of me; good f*cking god. Can't even begin to imagine the pain that would cause. Made me Google it. That is beyond grim.
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Post by mat1scfc on Oct 7, 2023 18:56:45 GMT
Chris Basham (Sheffield United player) will be forced into retirement after an awful tackle that will probably have him out for the season but he's 35. It wasn't a tackle. He's planted his foot to take the cross and has just rolled over it. Horrific. ahh didn't know just saw the picture and someone said it was from a tackle and I just presumed it was. Either way doesn't look good
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Post by timberwolf on Oct 8, 2023 7:59:45 GMT
it seems to work much better and more unobtrusively in other countries in Europe. Maybe its the way its implemented here. Yes we get some rubbish refs in L2 but I think the decisions even themselves out over the season. Better that than deliberating whether someone's toenail or nose is "offside" Is it because in this country we are totally obsessed by the offside rule and its implementations. Even down to grass roots level if you get the offsides right without linesman its viewed you have had a good game even if you have cocked up other decisions on the pitch.
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Post by orkneyhatter on Oct 28, 2023 16:21:28 GMT
VAR strikes again. 5 and a half minutes to make a decision on a goal Bournemouth v Burnley. That's not sustainable surely. The fans were chanting VAR is rubbish (or something like!) while the goal was checked again and again and again....
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Post by geordiehatter on Oct 28, 2023 22:42:43 GMT
VAR strikes again. 5 and a half minutes to make a decision on a goal Bournemouth v Burnley. That's not sustainable surely. The fans were chanting VAR is rubbish (or something like!) while the goal was checked again and again and again.... They were chanting 'This is embarrassing', which is an understatement. More generally- I've just watched Match of the Day and probably 75% of the conversation focuses on VAR calls, whether someone's elbow was offside, how long the call took, etc. Utterly depressing, the immediacy and joy drained out of the game at that level for the actual match-going supporter, and I'm so glad we don't have to have anything to do with it.
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Post by timberwolf on Oct 29, 2023 8:41:18 GMT
VAR strikes again. 5 and a half minutes to make a decision on a goal Bournemouth v Burnley. That's not sustainable surely. The fans were chanting VAR is rubbish (or something like!) while the goal was checked again and again and again.... They were chanting 'This is embarrassing', which is an understatement. More generally- I've just watched Match of the Day and probably 75% of the conversation focuses on VAR calls, whether someone's elbow was offside, how long the call took, etc. Utterly depressing, the immediacy and joy drained out of the game at that level for the actual match-going supporter, and I'm so glad we don't have to have anything to do with it. The reason i do not watch RL either live or on the box is there form of techknowledgy thats used. What is it that everything needs to be totally correct regarding decisions nowadays and they still get it wrong. They do not replay the game if a player on the pitch cocks it up.
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Post by samscfc on Oct 29, 2023 8:55:05 GMT
VAR strikes again. 5 and a half minutes to make a decision on a goal Bournemouth v Burnley. That's not sustainable surely. The fans were chanting VAR is rubbish (or something like!) while the goal was checked again and again and again.... It's the worst thing to ever happen to football. The officials are still getting decisions wrong, nobody knows the rules, when they do get a decision wrong it gets highlighted even more and mainly it takes all the emotion out of scoring a goal. I would absolutely hate for it to come to the EFL.
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Post by Doofenschmirtz on Oct 29, 2023 9:16:27 GMT
VAR strikes again. 5 and a half minutes to make a decision on a goal Bournemouth v Burnley. That's not sustainable surely. The fans were chanting VAR is rubbish (or something like!) while the goal was checked again and again and again.... It's the worst thing to ever happen to football. The officials are still getting decisions wrong, nobody knows the rules, when they do get a decision wrong it gets highlighted even more and mainly it takes all the emotion out of scoring a goal. I would absolutely hate for it to come to the EFL. I don't have problems with the idea of VAR just the way it's used. They could simplify it to a few set questions like... Was player X offside? Did player Y foul player X? Did the ball cross the line? and so on. Give them 60 seconds to make a decision. If you can't make a decision in that time then there was no clear advantage gained... Benefit of doubt goes to the attacking team. Maybe even take the option to use VAR off the ref and give the managers 3 appeals per game (no more than 2 per half and none in the last 5minutes of the match).
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Post by timberwolf on Oct 29, 2023 9:30:40 GMT
I don't have problems with the idea of VAR just the way it's used. They could simplify it to a few set questions like... Was player X offside? Did player Y foul player X? Did the ball cross the line? and so on. Give them 60 seconds to make a decision. If you can't make a decision in that time then there was no clear advantage gained... Benefit of doubt goes to the attacking team. Maybe even take the option to use VAR off the ref and give the managers 3 appeals per game (no more than 2 per half and none in the last 5minutes of the match). Apart from goal line tecknowledge i cannot see how VAR has made the game a better spectacle to watch even if they got it right 100 per cent of the time. Thought it was a spectator sport and the reason the game was eventually evolved to be.
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Post by geordiehatter on Oct 29, 2023 9:49:01 GMT
They were chanting 'This is embarrassing', which is an understatement. More generally- I've just watched Match of the Day and probably 75% of the conversation focuses on VAR calls, whether someone's elbow was offside, how long the call took, etc. Utterly depressing, the immediacy and joy drained out of the game at that level for the actual match-going supporter, and I'm so glad we don't have to have anything to do with it. The reason i do not watch RL either live or on the box is there form of techknowledgy thats used. What is it that everything needs to be totally correct regarding decisions nowadays and they still get it wrong. They do not replay the game if a player on the pitch cocks it up. Well, exactly. I keep waiting for someone on TV to say out loud what is surely obvious to so many of us- that this quest for an imagined perfection is in vain, and is spoiling the enjoyment of it for supporters. I also think that what they've failed to take account of is the human propensity for overthinking (if given the chance to). Incidents are being pored over in such detail that by the end of it the officials have started to doubt themselves, and end up making calls that are nonsensical. These are people who've officiated hundreds of games, their subconsciuosnesses now are wired to make instinctive judgements in the moment wiyhin the stressful and urgent situation of a game, and 99% of the time get them right. Essentially we've stopped trusting that process, and the result has been inevitable.
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Post by geordiehatter on Oct 29, 2023 9:50:04 GMT
I don't have problems with the idea of VAR just the way it's used. They could simplify it to a few set questions like... Was player X offside? Did player Y foul player X? Did the ball cross the line? and so on. Give them 60 seconds to make a decision. If you can't make a decision in that time then there was no clear advantage gained... Benefit of doubt goes to the attacking team. Maybe even take the option to use VAR off the ref and give the managers 3 appeals per game (no more than 2 per half and none in the last 5minutes of the match). Apart from goal line tecknowledge i cannot see how VAR has made the game a better spectacle to watch even if they got it right 100 per cent of the time. Thought it was a spectator sport and the reason the game was eventually evolved to be. Absolutely. 100%.
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Post by timberwolf on Oct 29, 2023 11:01:10 GMT
Basically its gone from discussing match officials to replacing it with VAR.Think with them its as much about how opposing sets of fans see them differently in a game rather than both sets of fans thinking they have had a real nightmare. Like players they all will have em over a season and usually when they do not expect it. Just lets pack in live football and play it like a big computer game.
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Post by Bredburyhatter on Oct 29, 2023 11:06:25 GMT
Warning to anyone going to a local pub for some lunch today... it's derby day, so be prepared for some embarrassing scenes.
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Post by houldsworthhatter on Oct 29, 2023 11:22:53 GMT
Warning to anyone going to a local pub for some lunch today... it's derby day, so be prepared for some embarrassing scenes. The joys of being exiled 😁
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Post by nelly on Oct 29, 2023 11:40:13 GMT
Warning to anyone going to a local pub for some lunch today... it's derby day, so be prepared for some embarrassing scenes. The joys of being exiled 😁 It's a pity we can't move Manchester further west, say near Warrington. Then they wouldn't have far to go to fight the scoucers. Even better move Man U to London where most of their fans are. Leave us in peace then 🤣
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