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Post by samscfc on Mar 11, 2024 11:31:29 GMT
Love the scenes associated with a last minute winner, been ages since we’ve had one. Overall though it’s another game we’ve made heavy weather of and I was slightly bemused by our approach to it. If we’re going to play Wootton then we want people getting to the byline and putting crosses in. However, Hippo and CLE were, understandably, wanting to cut back onto their stronger foot, which both slowed the pace of attacked down and meant they were crossing from deeper. That’s fine if you’ve got MSH and Rydel overlapping, but Bristow has only shown that in flashes and it isn’t Cass’ game really. Either swap the two wide players over to provide the width you need to best feed Wootton, or play with Olafe who thrives off those threaded through balls that midfielders cutting inside can provide. We spent the first half with neither and it killed the momentum numerous times. Would like a midfield diamond of Camps, Sarce, Hippo, Powell on Thursday, with Olafe and Madden ahead of them. If Powell isn’t fit then bring Bailey in. Yeah I couldn't agree more with that. Hippo and Evans didn't look comfortable at all and kept coming backwards or taking too many touches, it was baffling that he didn't change it. Can't get my head around Richards and Bennett either. Simon Wilson said we were after players that could play above the level but then we sign 2 young lads who have barely kicked a ball for us despite us having a load of injuries?
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Post by Stranded Hatter on Mar 11, 2024 11:38:01 GMT
Here are the proper highlights
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Post by Stranded Hatter on Mar 11, 2024 11:43:30 GMT
In the ground, I thought the keeper was reading Paddy's body position and waiting to decide which way to dive. Thought he had an excellent game though, as did the Swindon keeper the game before - we were comfortable xG winners in both games, and things would have looked far more comfortable both games with an 'average' fourth tier keeper performance. He doesn't strike them hard enough for me. He's a poor penalty taker imho he doesn't bode confidence. Just hit it hard in the corner. If you do that 99% of keepers aren't saving it. Normally I would agree. This one against Walsall though showed that he can leather them, which makes me wonder more why he so rarely does.
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Post by ricky on Mar 11, 2024 11:49:22 GMT
Love the scenes associated with a last minute winner, been ages since we’ve had one. Overall though it’s another game we’ve made heavy weather of and I was slightly bemused by our approach to it. If we’re going to play Wootton then we want people getting to the byline and putting crosses in. However, Hippo and CLE were, understandably, wanting to cut back onto their stronger foot, which both slowed the pace of attacked down and meant they were crossing from deeper. That’s fine if you’ve got MSH and Rydel overlapping, but Bristow has only shown that in flashes and it isn’t Cass’ game really. Either swap the two wide players over to provide the width you need to best feed Wootton, or play with Olafe who thrives off those threaded through balls that midfielders cutting inside can provide. We spent the first half with neither and it killed the momentum numerous times. Would like a midfield diamond of Camps, Sarce, Hippo, Powell on Thursday, with Olafe and Madden ahead of them. If Powell isn’t fit then bring Bailey in. Yeah I couldn't agree more with that. Hippo and Evans didn't look comfortable at all and kept coming backwards or taking too many touches, it was baffling that he didn't change it. Can't get my head around Richards and Bennett either. Simon Wilson said we were after players that could play above the level but then we sign 2 young lads who have barely kicked a ball for us despite us having a load of injuries? Being after them and being able to sign them are 2 different things, we missed out on targets for one reason or another, and January is a tricky window, nobody wants to lose their better players, when most teams have something to play for.
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Post by Stranded Hatter on Mar 11, 2024 11:52:37 GMT
Here are the proper highlights And even ours miss one of the chances we had cleared off the line. From Odin Bailey's first corner.
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Post by herbiedumplings on Mar 11, 2024 12:11:04 GMT
the save from Bailey was the pick of the bunch superb save Not that in matters but the pen should been retaken number 23 was nearly level with Paddy as kick is taken, then he the one that clears the rebound away Didn’t spot that at the time, but there’s no way you get to being a professional footballer without knowing that’s against the rules. Must be another directive from their manager. Unless of course Graham Coughlan learned about defending dead ball situations from watching videos of Zaïre in the ‘74 World Cup!
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Post by ricky on Mar 11, 2024 12:14:04 GMT
the save from Bailey was the pick of the bunch superb save Not that in matters but the pen should been retaken number 23 was nearly level with Paddy as kick is taken, then he the one that clears the rebound away Didn’t spot that at the time, but there’s no way you get to being a professional footballer without knowing that’s against the rules. Must be another directive from their manager. Unless of course Graham Coughlan learned about defending dead ball situations from watching videos of Zaïre in the ‘74 World Cup! That Zaire moment, thanks for reminding me, loved it!
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Post by Barmy Blue Army on Mar 11, 2024 12:31:36 GMT
the save from Bailey was the pick of the bunch superb save Not that in matters but the pen should been retaken number 23 was nearly level with Paddy as kick is taken, then he the one that clears the rebound away Good spot. VAR. VAR. VAR. (Joking!)
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Post by slomasscfc on Mar 11, 2024 12:36:51 GMT
Love the scenes associated with a last minute winner, been ages since we’ve had one. Overall though it’s another game we’ve made heavy weather of and I was slightly bemused by our approach to it. If we’re going to play Wootton then we want people getting to the byline and putting crosses in. However, Hippo and CLE were, understandably, wanting to cut back onto their stronger foot, which both slowed the pace of attacked down and meant they were crossing from deeper. That’s fine if you’ve got MSH and Rydel overlapping, but Bristow has only shown that in flashes and it isn’t Cass’ game really. Either swap the two wide players over to provide the width you need to best feed Wootton, or play with Olafe who thrives off those threaded through balls that midfielders cutting inside can provide. We spent the first half with neither and it killed the momentum numerous times. Would like a midfield diamond of Camps, Sarce, Hippo, Powell on Thursday, with Olafe and Madden ahead of them. If Powell isn’t fit then bring Bailey in. Yeah I couldn't agree more with that. Hippo and Evans didn't look comfortable at all and kept coming backwards or taking too many touches, it was baffling that he didn't change it. Can't get my head around Richards and Bennett either. Simon Wilson said we were after players that could play above the level but then we sign 2 young lads who have barely kicked a ball for us despite us having a load of injuries? Done to death on here the rationale was the players we went for went higher to L1, think Jensen Weir was one It's not a buyers market so players were either gonna be extortionate price wise or not available for ones that improve us The injured senior players were coming back so rather than go pay over odds we brought few loans in to cover what was here We've just then been incredibly unlucky to lose more players since window closed Wright, Collar, MSH, Knoyle,Camps and Croasdale all lost after window shut Croasdale the one we should have mitigated as we knew he was gonna need a hernia operation
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Post by Barmy Blue Army on Mar 11, 2024 12:39:32 GMT
Love the scenes associated with a last minute winner, been ages since we’ve had one. Overall though it’s another game we’ve made heavy weather of and I was slightly bemused by our approach to it. If we’re going to play Wootton then we want people getting to the byline and putting crosses in. However, Hippo and CLE were, understandably, wanting to cut back onto their stronger foot, which both slowed the pace of attacked down and meant they were crossing from deeper. That’s fine if you’ve got MSH and Rydel overlapping, but Bristow has only shown that in flashes and it isn’t Cass’ game really. Either swap the two wide players over to provide the width you need to best feed Wootton, or play with Olafe who thrives off those threaded through balls that midfielders cutting inside can provide. We spent the first half with neither and it killed the momentum numerous times. Would like a midfield diamond of Camps, Sarce, Hippo, Powell on Thursday, with Olafe and Madden ahead of them. If Powell isn’t fit then bring Bailey in. Yeah I couldn't agree more with that. Hippo and Evans didn't look comfortable at all and kept coming backwards or taking too many touches, it was baffling that he didn't change it. Can't get my head around Richards and Bennett either. Simon Wilson said we were after players that could play above the level but then we sign 2 young lads who have barely kicked a ball for us despite us having a load of injuries? I think it's pretty clear that our main targets weren't available or went elsewhere (Hutton?). So, rather than pay over the odds or pick up top L2 players (rather than L1 players) and limit our options in the summer, we went for youth loans and gambled on players returning from injury (though CLE and Powell looked like new signings, Bristow and Bailey were good pickups and Cass sensible (though not exciting) business). I've got to say I was behind that approach but, for every player that we returned, we lost another (sometimes the same one!) and it's exposed our lack of depth at the back. Whether it proves to be the right call will depend on where we finish. No doubt that we could have done with a L2 ready CB for Tranmere and Crewe though and a ST for Gils, Swindon and probably Newport.
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Post by m14hatter on Mar 11, 2024 12:48:33 GMT
Yeah I couldn't agree more with that. Hippo and Evans didn't look comfortable at all and kept coming backwards or taking too many touches, it was baffling that he didn't change it. Can't get my head around Richards and Bennett either. Simon Wilson said we were after players that could play above the level but then we sign 2 young lads who have barely kicked a ball for us despite us having a load of injuries? Done to death on here the rationale was the players we went for went higher to L1, think Jensen Weir was one It's not a buyers market so players were either gonna be extortionate price wise or not available for ones that improve us The injured senior players were coming back so rather than go pay over odds we brought few loans in to cover what was here We've just then been incredibly unlucky to lose more players since window closed Wright, Collar, MSH, Knoyle,Camps and Croasdale all lost after window shut Croasdale the one we should have mitigated as we knew he was gonna need a hernia operation Agree, the Croasdale replacement was needed but we’ve not missed him the last few weeks. I think we’ll be fine without him on Thursday as well. Could do with him back for Crawley and MK games though where they’ll both have more runners from midfield.
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Post by ricky on Mar 11, 2024 12:57:10 GMT
It’s been a sod of a season yet here we are, 6 wins from promotion. If the worst happens and we miss out on the top 3 I hope there are fewer recriminations than usual, you can’t legislate for what’s happened this season in terms of personnel. It’s worth noting that this is Mansfield’s 10th season in league 2 and Clough’s third crack at it. I still think we will prevail anyway.
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Post by tgttiw on Mar 11, 2024 13:08:12 GMT
normally I'd say I want collar on pens but he's out so sarcevic steps up for me now. Or go a bit higher. I wouldn't say Sarcevic is a natural striker of the of the ball either (nor Wootton, Tanto, Collar). Paddy was adamant in his postmatch that he'd be stepping for the next one but I'd be curious how Powell is from the spot. Has Camps ever taken pens? He strikes a ball cleanly too. Yes against hartlepool and missed
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Post by 1994hatter on Mar 11, 2024 13:27:34 GMT
Or go a bit higher. I wouldn't say Sarcevic is a natural striker of the of the ball either (nor Wootton, Tanto, Collar). Paddy was adamant in his postmatch that he'd be stepping for the next one but I'd be curious how Powell is from the spot. Has Camps ever taken pens? He strikes a ball cleanly too. Yes against hartlepool and missed Also yes against Hartlepool and scored.
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Post by Henry Pratt on Mar 11, 2024 13:27:44 GMT
Could have been how the game panned out for them that caused this. We were in total control and they had to live off the odd scraps. A point away at the team second in the league would have been a good result for them. Did we go out at tranmere to keep the score under 5. At times teams just have to adjust to the circumstances of a game. Wasn’t how the game panned out for them, the keeper was at it from the first minute, clearly a plan from the start. Slight but related diversion - does anyone know why the law about keepers only holding the ball for a maximum of 6 seconds is never enforced? It's clearly been allowed to be relaxed, but I've never seen any commentary as to why. And it's f*cking infuriating - it's well past 20 seconds in many cases. It's one of those changes (like the additional time that was being added earlier this season) which seems sensible and refreshing when it's first introduced, but then is gradually allowed to be shithoused by players, and the officials don't seem to be bothered. It's baffling, because it's so clearly obviously a law being broken. But... nowt.
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