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Post by Count de Stockport on Apr 19, 2024 14:43:09 GMT
Imagine if the European Super League had gone ahead.
All those fans priced out of watching 'their' clubs live, forced to watch at home or in the pub surrounded by pissheads drinking overpriced lad lager. A generation whose only experience of football is watching it from a living room because they're too young to be taken to the pub. Up until their parents realise that they can afford to take their kids to lower-league matches.
If only the European Super League had gone ahead!
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Post by hedleyverity on Apr 19, 2024 14:52:14 GMT
17 out of 24 League 2 clubs have made a statement so far. Will be interesting to see if FGR do. You'd think Dale Vince might be against replays due to the environmental impact. Even Crewe have put out a statement of opposition, and they never condemn anything
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Post by stockycounty on Apr 19, 2024 15:06:45 GMT
its going to severely hamper pitch invasion opportunities....
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Post by scfc73 on Apr 19, 2024 15:07:25 GMT
What extra games are these clubs like Brentford , Palace and Bournemouth playing anyway? 8 fewer league games than the rest of the FL and many non-league clubs, they're only in on two cup competitions (anyone else likely to make at least FAC1 is in a minimum of 3), both of which they get to enter in later rounds than non-PL teams, and their chances of being involved in European competition are slim, at best. All on top of the vast sums they get from the PL to help get a squad together (which they use to its full extent when they drawn at somewhere like Cambridge away in the 3rd round). The whole thing's a joke. This is what's laughable about the whole thing. There's no replays this season from the quarters onwards so as a Premier league club it's a maximum of 3 extra games if they drew in the 3rd, 4th, & 5th round. Mikel Arteta coming out saying it's about protecting the players, well in that case stop jetting off around the world in pre-season to promote your brand then & give your players a decent summer break! & maybe lobby UEFA to go back to the old European competition format of straight 2 legged knockouts from the off instead of all the group stage bollocks! but oh no they won't do that because it's all about the dough isn't it. I was strongly against the European super league but now I'm all in favour of it on the one condition that those teams that want to participate in it bugger off for good & don't compete in their domestic leagues anymore.
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Post by edjelley on Apr 19, 2024 15:20:22 GMT
I f*cking hate the Premier league so much it's irrational 😀 I just want these foreign franchise brands to f*ck off to their stupid contrived super league and let the rest of proper football community clubs get back to our true competitions without these greedy b*stards.
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Post by Nik on Apr 19, 2024 15:23:31 GMT
I f*cking hate the Premier league so much it's irrational 😀 I just want these foreign franchise brands to f*ck off to their stupid contrived super league and let the rest of proper football community clubs get back to our true competitions without these greedy b*stards. The European Super League was never proposing for the clubs to leave their domestic leagues.
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Post by Count de Stockport on Apr 19, 2024 15:25:38 GMT
I f*cking hate the Premier league so much it's irrational 😀 I just want these foreign franchise brands to f*ck off to their stupid contrived super league and let the rest of proper football community clubs get back to our true competitions without these greedy b*stards. The European Super League was never proposing for the clubs to leave their domestic leagues. Despite them already playing too many games a season, eh?
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Post by gibbo on Apr 19, 2024 15:33:58 GMT
The point of not engaging is an individual decision. However, if more individuals stopped giving it views or clicking on reports then the commercial benefit and the money flowing to clubs that already have too much money and, by extension, power, is reduced (I'd love to read about City's demise this week - I've restricted myself to watching BBC Breakfast's sport news on Thursday. Benefit to everyone else involved: zero). Not sure your issue with the Champions League specifically in truth, it's putting on games pitting the best players in the World against each other and (in the main) and (in the knockouts) it's fantastic entertainment that people are willing to tune in (and often pay) to watch. It's not UEFA's fault that more people want to do that than put money in to watching the lower leagues. Is it any different to Elton John continually selling out concerts and lining his pockets (at extortionate cost to the attendees) no doubt? or should he be stepping aside to allow a band that play at the Thatched House on a Saturday night have some limelight?
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Post by Stranded Hatter on Apr 19, 2024 15:45:21 GMT
It's not even the name of it for me. Winning your national cup competition (especially when one of them is the oldest football competition in the world) should carry more prestige than finishing 2nd, 3rd or 4th in the top flight. I accept that is a matter of opinion but one of them has won something, the other... hasn't. Not necessarily, e.g. finishing 2nd in League 1 carries more prestige than winning the Football League Trophy, even though you've not actually won anything. Yon can win an FA Cup in 6 games, is that more prestigious than 2nd over a 38 game season? Finishing 2nd in League 1 and you've won promotion to the Championship
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Post by edjelley on Apr 19, 2024 15:52:56 GMT
I f*cking hate the Premier league so much it's irrational 😀 I just want these foreign franchise brands to f*ck off to their stupid contrived super league and let the rest of proper football community clubs get back to our true competitions without these greedy b*stards. The European Super League was never proposing for the clubs to leave their domestic leagues. Perhaps at the start but it wouldn't have ended there.
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Post by Mozzer on Apr 19, 2024 15:53:59 GMT
The point of not engaging is an individual decision. However, if more individuals stopped giving it views or clicking on reports then the commercial benefit and the money flowing to clubs that already have too much money and, by extension, power, is reduced (I'd love to read about City's demise this week - I've restricted myself to watching BBC Breakfast's sport news on Thursday. Benefit to everyone else involved: zero). Not sure your issue with the Champions League specifically in truth, it's putting on games pitting the best players in the World against each other and (in the main) and (in the knockouts) it's fantastic entertainment that people are willing to tune in (and often pay) to watch. It's not UEFA's fault that more people want to do that than put money in to watching the lower leagues. Is it any different to Elton John continually selling out concerts and lining his pockets (at extortionate cost to the attendees) no doubt? or should he be stepping aside to allow a band that play at the Thatched House on a Saturday night have some limelight? It's a poor comparison because Elton John doesn't engage in a competitive (ha!) league to compete in a different league. It also ignores the point I've made previously, that the whole thing is rigged to reward the rich and reduce the power of the less rich even in the CL itself. And that the monies the English clubs gain gives them more power in English football. So my problem is with the clubs, the competition and the organisations overseeing it all. I don't care how good the football is or isn't. It means nothing to me as a County fan. I know that doesn't stop other people enjoying it, but I'm not here to persuade other people not to enjoy it. I'm saying why I think it's bad for the game and why my interest is negative in as much as it's about simply hoping English clubs fail.
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Post by Nik on Apr 19, 2024 16:04:53 GMT
The European Super League was never proposing for the clubs to leave their domestic leagues. Despite them already playing too many games a season, eh? It was to replace their participation in the Champions League.
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Post by edjelley on Apr 19, 2024 16:11:26 GMT
Despite them already playing too many games a season, eh? It was to replace their participation in the Champions League. And it was to be a closed shop,restricted entry. Maybe you agree with that but it tells me all I need to know about those who were involved and their Commitment to the fairness of football generally
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Post by Nik on Apr 19, 2024 16:14:14 GMT
It was to replace their participation in the Champions League. And it was to be a closed shop,restricted entry. Maybe you agree with that but it tells me all I need to know about those who were involved and their Commitment to the fairness of football generally I never said I agreed with it, I just pointing out that at no point was there a proposal for them to leave their domestic leagues.
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Post by scfc73 on Apr 19, 2024 16:27:20 GMT
The point of not engaging is an individual decision. However, if more individuals stopped giving it views or clicking on reports then the commercial benefit and the money flowing to clubs that already have too much money and, by extension, power, is reduced (I'd love to read about City's demise this week - I've restricted myself to watching BBC Breakfast's sport news on Thursday. Benefit to everyone else involved: zero). Not sure your issue with the Champions League specifically in truth, it's putting on games pitting the best players in the World against each other and (in the main) and (in the knockouts) it's fantastic entertainment that people are willing to tune in (and often pay) to watch. It's not UEFA's fault that more people want to do that than put money in to watching the lower leagues. Is it any different to Elton John continually selling out concerts and lining his pockets (at extortionate cost to the attendees) no doubt? or should he be stepping aside to allow a band that play at the Thatched House on a Saturday night have some limelight? You're right the knockout stuff is exciting which is why the old European cup was far better
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