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Post by sidcup on May 21, 2024 9:19:06 GMT
Under 5s tickets used to be free, so let's not get too carried away about the kindness of the club! And there's no assumption at all that you will attend majority of games. That's not written or implied anywhere. There's absolutely nothing about attending a minimum (or any) number of games. And kids tickets are cheap to allow parents to bring them. If they were £100 (or more) a lot of parents wouldn't be able to afford it, and then kids don't attend. Is that 50% of games attended or 50% of the cost of an adult ticket? If it's the latter, then that's just barbaric for a kids ticket. If it's the former, I'm sure that's the intention for most parents but there's lots of reasons why a four year old can't do 12 games every season. And, as I say, without a season ticket then it's impossible for him to go. So no future generation coming to County. I,ll throw something else into the discussion. Should under 5,s actually be attending a full football ground. Know i was 7 before i attended my first game and waited till my lad was 5 before he saw his first. There might be the odd fan with zero option but bring their child with them, but there was always an alternative where i was concerned regarding this. OK, so what documentation do I need to show in order to demonstrate that I have no alternative but to take the kids? Can I use the (hypothetical) angry letter from the club in which they threaten to rescind their season tickets in the event of non-attendance?
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Post by suedehead on May 21, 2024 10:02:31 GMT
Under 5s tickets used to be free, so let's not get too carried away about the kindness of the club! And there's no assumption at all that you will attend majority of games. That's not written or implied anywhere. There's absolutely nothing about attending a minimum (or any) number of games. And kids tickets are cheap to allow parents to bring them. If they were £100 (or more) a lot of parents wouldn't be able to afford it, and then kids don't attend. Is that 50% of games attended or 50% of the cost of an adult ticket? If it's the latter, then that's just barbaric for a kids ticket. If it's the former, I'm sure that's the intention for most parents but there's lots of reasons why a four year old can't do 12 games every season. And, as I say, without a season ticket then it's impossible for him to go. So no future generation coming to County. I,ll throw something else into the discussion. Should under 5,s actually be attending a full football ground. Know i was 7 before i attended my first game and waited till my lad was 5 before he saw his first. There might be the odd fan with zero option but bring their child with them, but there was always an alternative where i was concerned regarding this. Yes, they absolutely should if they want to. Why shouldn't they attend? We had this with the bag policy stuff but the key is being prepared. They'll get hungry/bored/cold/hot/tired but getting ahead of that is the answer. And they won't want to go to every game, that's fine. But we shouldn't be getting uppity about young kids having season tickets when they're going to be the loyal and die hards of the future.
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Post by desmond on May 21, 2024 10:06:18 GMT
Is there a cap on how many kids season tickets we offer i(In total as I believe individually you can only have 1 per full paying adult) ?
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Post by suedehead on May 21, 2024 10:07:57 GMT
Is there a cap on how many kids season tickets we offer i(In total as I believe individually you can only have 1 per full paying adult) ? Not sen it mentioned. Is the 1 per adult new? I had two in the Covid season, although obviously never used them!
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Post by Henry Pratt on May 21, 2024 10:10:45 GMT
Surely that's something the club can keep track of? If people with those free tickets aren't using them. They’re not free, they’re £25. And it’s the holders decision whether to use them or not. I buy one for my lad, he’s had one every season since he’s been born. He went to 4/5 games last season. He’ll hopefully do double figures next year. If the club are going to monitor his usage, which they absolutely shouldn’t, then they should do the same for exiles with a ST who might only do a small number of games, or anybody else with a season ticket. It’s been paid for so up to the holder to do what they want with it. There’s nothing in the t&cs stating a minimum number of games have to be attended. EDIT: free in the Pop, aren’t they? Yeah, tend to agree. I'd just add that with a decent ticketing system, it should be a piece of piss to either upgrade a kid ticket to an adult via an online payment, or allow it to be resold. The reselling is something that should be there by default, too. I know on other threads people are suggesting making them available on here, but it should be easy to do online. Face value, club takes a 10% cut.
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Post by timberwolf on May 21, 2024 10:11:26 GMT
I,ll throw something else into the discussion. Should under 5,s actually be attending a full football ground. Know i was 7 before i attended my first game and waited till my lad was 5 before he saw his first. There might be the odd fan with zero option but bring their child with them, but there was always an alternative where i was concerned regarding this. Yes, they absolutely should if they want to. Why shouldn't they attend? We had this with the bag policy stuff but the key is being prepared. They'll get hungry/bored/cold/hot/tired but getting ahead of that is the answer. And they won't want to go to every game, that's fine. But we shouldn't be getting uppity about young kids having season tickets when they're going to be the loyal and die hards of the future. Fine but County should not be seen in its present state as some sort of child minding service when other older fans are having difficulty in attending and a seat is not being used. Then those under 5,s it would be interesting in how many have become die hards iin the past or have moved on to other clubs with their mates or lost interest in football itself or are just going anyway because they know a parent wants them to do. Bit like kids football with parents living their youth again through their kids.
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Post by Henry Pratt on May 21, 2024 10:16:39 GMT
Many clubs have a requirement that you must use your ST at least 75% (or similar) of the time. It you fall below that usage, you lose the right to renew. Of course those clubs give you the ability to allow the club to resell the ticket if you can't make the game. higher than that in the Premier league. United and Brentford take it off you if you miss I think 3 or 4 games If true, that's ridiculous. Missing 4 games in a season isn't a lot. Holiday, couple of illnesses... The clubs have had the money - the f*ck's it got to do with them?
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Post by Waldorf on May 21, 2024 10:18:01 GMT
Under 5s tickets used to be free, so let's not get too carried away about the kindness of the club! And there's no assumption at all that you will attend majority of games. That's not written or implied anywhere. There's absolutely nothing about attending a minimum (or any) number of games. And kids tickets are cheap to allow parents to bring them. If they were £100 (or more) a lot of parents wouldn't be able to afford it, and then kids don't attend. Is that 50% of games attended or 50% of the cost of an adult ticket? If it's the latter, then that's just barbaric for a kids ticket. If it's the former, I'm sure that's the intention for most parents but there's lots of reasons why a four year old can't do 12 games every season. And, as I say, without a season ticket then it's impossible for him to go. So no future generation coming to County. I,ll throw something else into the discussion. Should under 5,s actually be attending a full football ground. Know i was 7 before i attended my first game and waited till my lad was 5 before he saw his first. There might be the odd fan with zero option but bring their child with them, but there was always an alternative where i was concerned regarding this. If they want to go to a full football ground, of course they should go. My 7 year old goes to most homes, with the exception of some midweek games when he has school. He's had a season ticket since 4. Loves it (though admittedly enjoys playing more). The one issue they definitely need to sort is not checking tickets. One game my lad didn't come, and I had taken his season ticket with me instead of mine. Realised at the pub but just chanced it. The turnstile operator didn't even look. Scan and go. I bet loads do that.
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Post by suedehead on May 21, 2024 10:27:52 GMT
Yes, they absolutely should if they want to. Why shouldn't they attend? We had this with the bag policy stuff but the key is being prepared. They'll get hungry/bored/cold/hot/tired but getting ahead of that is the answer. And they won't want to go to every game, that's fine. But we shouldn't be getting uppity about young kids having season tickets when they're going to be the loyal and die hards of the future. Fine but County should not be seen in its present state as some sort of child minding service when other older fans are having difficulty in attending and a seat is not being used. Then those under 5,s it would be interesting in how many have become die hards iin the past or have moved on to other clubs with their mates or lost interest in football itself or are just going anyway because they know a parent wants them to do. Bit like kids football with parents living their youth again through their kids. How on earth would it be seen as a child minding service? What a bizarre comment. Would you say the same if a parent was taking their kid to the cinema, or bowling, or out for a burger? My lad is with me the whole time, I'm completely responsible for him. If older fans are having difficulty getting tickets then that's their problem, tbqh. The experience of a child is just as relevant/valid as the experience of an adult. Some of my best ever memories are County as a kid. But I didn't go every week. The way some are going on today it'd mean kids now missing out on those experiences.
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Post by desmond on May 21, 2024 10:31:51 GMT
Is there a cap on how many kids season tickets we offer i(In total as I believe individually you can only have 1 per full paying adult) ? Not sen it mentioned. Is the 1 per adult new? I had two in the Covid season, although obviously never used them! Actually having done a quick check I’m not sure, I can see that in the Together stand there is a limit of 1 per adult for the free ticket scheme, can’t see anything about the bought kids tickets. Would it be reasonable though to have a cap on them otherwise there is the risk of having more empty seats on match days of kids didn’t want to go along/weather was bad etc ?
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Post by sidcup on May 21, 2024 10:38:59 GMT
Is there a cap on how many kids season tickets we offer i(In total as I believe individually you can only have 1 per full paying adult) ? Not sen it mentioned. Is the 1 per adult new? I had two in the Covid season, although obviously never used them! It's not a thing. I've got two under 5s on my account now, with just the one adult ticket. Whisper it, but I very much doubt either of my kids will do all 23 home matches next season. Come to think of it, neither will I. Burn the heretic!
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Post by The Real Exile on May 21, 2024 10:42:41 GMT
Perhaps I'm over estimating how many are just reserved for mates etc but there is usually a lot of empty space on so called sell outs 🤔 bottom line we just need a fit for purpose ticketing system with the ability to free up your ticket for re use, I'd just be happy knowing it was used wouldn't want anything for it, club takes an admin fee or upgrade price if its a child ticket etc.
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Post by suedehead on May 21, 2024 11:31:14 GMT
Not sen it mentioned. Is the 1 per adult new? I had two in the Covid season, although obviously never used them! Actually having done a quick check I’m not sure, I can see that in the Together stand there is a limit of 1 per adult for the free ticket scheme, can’t see anything about the bought kids tickets. Would it be reasonable though to have a cap on them otherwise there is the risk of having more empty seats on match days of kids didn’t want to go along/weather was bad etc ? Sure, but do the same for pensioners, students, adults too. There possibly should be a cap in number of kids tickets per adult, is it feasible for one adult to be able to look after 10 under 5s, for (an extreme) example? But I wouldn't cap the number of kids tickets available full stop.
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Post by sidcup on May 21, 2024 12:26:31 GMT
Actually having done a quick check I’m not sure, I can see that in the Together stand there is a limit of 1 per adult for the free ticket scheme, can’t see anything about the bought kids tickets. Would it be reasonable though to have a cap on them otherwise there is the risk of having more empty seats on match days of kids didn’t want to go along/weather was bad etc ? Sure, but do the same for pensioners, students, adults too. There possibly should be a cap in number of kids tickets per adult, is it feasible for one adult to be able to look after 10 under 5s, for (an extreme) example? But I wouldn't cap the number of kids tickets available full stop. I can't be the only one who shuddered at that prospect. Two is extreme enough for me!
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Post by The Real Exile on May 21, 2024 12:32:34 GMT
Sure, but do the same for pensioners, students, adults too. There possibly should be a cap in number of kids tickets per adult, is it feasible for one adult to be able to look after 10 under 5s, for (an extreme) example? But I wouldn't cap the number of kids tickets available full stop. I can't be the only one who shuddered at that prospect. Two is extreme enough for me! I had my 5 brothers and Sisters all aged under 8 under my care at the Stoke game stood in the old Cheadle End where it all kicked off, ended up lifting them on to the pitch out of the way of the scrapping. Someone called Mark Stein a nasty name and it literally went off big time, only my two brothers were ever allowed back after that!
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