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Post by wnm on Aug 19, 2024 12:15:32 GMT
He wasn't shy in going down Fletcher but it was a penalty for them IMO. I had a good view of it as I was that side of the stand. 13 minutes worth of highlights and they didn’t put it in… the strange editorial choices continue into the new season.
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Post by wnm on Aug 19, 2024 12:16:50 GMT
Highlights WITH JK commentary Lovely stuff. Few random thoughts from me. - Wootton didn't get the pass quite right for Barry's chance that hit the post. The weight was perfect but it's too straight allowing the defender to get back; I thought it was the keeper live. A little bit of angle and Barry probably hits that first time under the keeper. He'll be annoyed by that as he brings plenty of assists. - So many of our attacks were us nipping in and grabbing the ball, often Bate. It worries me a little as the midfield push very high, go man for man and vacate the space in front of the backline at times to do it but it can be such an offensive weapon against sides that we know will play out. It's also up to the back 4 to push up to squeeze that space. I can see sides going more direct vs us though and trying to exploit it vs a midfield without much pace but I'm sure we'll adjust for those opponents. It also relies on players choosing the right moments to press but they did that excellently Saturday and Bate is already on his way before the ball leaves the keeper's hands for Fevrier's goal. - Bate and Camps show so much composure in our own half to build attacks. They, in particular Bate, have got plenty of praise on their forum. I look forward to reading more comments about their "small no.4' (though we all know the correct footballing phrase is 'diminutive') or the "player with the headband' running the show. That 1-2 with Touray may be half way into our half but it's what breaks the press and gives Barry the space to do his stuff. - For a game where I didn't think Barry was involved much and wasn't fully fit, three good chances (2 made by himself) ain't bad! - For their offside goal, I presume there is a deflection or touch by their player given where the ball ends up but the replays make it suspiciously look like Camps played most of the ball... Bit disappointed not to see Diamond's run down the right early the first half which was superb and the pen shout for them again in 14 mins of highlights. Maybe it wasn't a pen but it was a significant moment in the game. Their keeper will be disappointed about getting a good hand to the first two goals but not keeping them out. Pretty sure Wootton’s pass was actually aimed at Camps but got it wrong and ended up between them.
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Post by herbiedumplings on Aug 19, 2024 12:17:11 GMT
He wasn't shy in going down Fletcher but it was a penalty for them IMO. I had a good view of it as I was that side of the stand. Grappling for sure, but their guy threw Pye down then thought “Isn’t there something I’m supposed to do here too? Oh yeah - fall over!” Looked like a dive live IMO, but one that VAR would have given. After deliberations that make a papal enclave look rapid, of course…
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Post by Barmy Blue Army on Aug 19, 2024 12:20:03 GMT
One of the things that pleased me most on Saturday was how little they looked like scoring between Barry and Fevrier's goals at 1-0 up. You'd think there would be some really nervy moments but it just never happened. And at 2-0 and beyond they wouldn't have scored if they'd played all night. That's them apparently. Really struggle when they go behind. Last season they were winning 19 games at HT in the league and won 18, drew 1 at FT. Drawing though - they only won 2 of 14, losing 5; and losing at HT, won 1, drew 2, lost 10. It's a big criticism of their manager of their forum that he can't react to change a game. We saw that Saturday as you say. Rather than turn the screw, we comfortably looked like the side most likely to score after Barry's goal and could even have had a couple more.
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Post by Barmy Blue Army on Aug 19, 2024 12:24:30 GMT
I suspect there's an unspoken 'non-league upstarts' element in there too. We got it last season from Doncaster IIRC Based on ignorance. I'd like to think I'd be aware of a story like ours over the last few years, even if it happened to someone like Oldham, or Chesterfield, say. Regardless of how much you're unaware of the minutiae of a rival club, anyone with half an eye on what's going on in lower league football must be aware of how much we're a club on the rise. With some bookies, Chesterfield were/are favourites for the L2 title (alongside Gillingham and Doncaster). Must be the 'County-effect'!
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Post by Barmy Blue Army on Aug 19, 2024 12:29:47 GMT
He wasn't shy in going down Fletcher but it was a penalty for them IMO. I had a good view of it as I was that side of the stand. 13 minutes worth of highlights and they didn’t put it in… the strange editorial choices continue into the new season. Hard to complain as the general quality is very good but it was strange to me, particularly as it looked like there was a camera right behind the goal which would have given a great angle. I expect a bit of County bias for the lower quality chances but I don't want us to become of those teams that only puts their chances in the highlights or gives replays of their pen shouts, like the Bailey one. Difficult to see from the angle for that but it looked to me like the player got the ball first and drew it into him, and Bailey went over due to the weight of the challenge.
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Post by wnm on Aug 19, 2024 12:34:13 GMT
13 minutes worth of highlights and they didn’t put it in… the strange editorial choices continue into the new season. Hard to complain as the general quality is very good but it was strange to me, particularly as it looked like there was a camera right behind the goal which would have given a great angle. I expect a bit of County bias for the lower quality chances but I don't want us to become of those teams that only puts their chances in the highlights or gives replays of their pen shouts, like the Bailey one. Difficult to see from the angle for that but it looked to me like the player got the ball first and drew it into him, and Bailey went over due to the weight of the challenge. We’ve already become that club on Twitter in recent years as we now don’t describe opposition goals. Agree though that those extended highlights are very welcome and very good on the whole.
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Post by Barmy Blue Army on Aug 19, 2024 12:40:35 GMT
Hard to complain as the general quality is very good but it was strange to me, particularly as it looked like there was a camera right behind the goal which would have given a great angle. I expect a bit of County bias for the lower quality chances but I don't want us to become of those teams that only puts their chances in the highlights or gives replays of their pen shouts, like the Bailey one. Difficult to see from the angle for that but it looked to me like the player got the ball first and drew it into him, and Bailey went over due to the weight of the challenge. We’ve already become that club on Twitter in recent years as we now don’t describe opposition goals. Agree though that those extended highlights are very welcome and very good on the whole. Well, I provide that service! It was a massive moment in the game as if he gives the pen, I think it has to be a red too as Pye isn't trying to play the ball and it's a clearing goalscoring opportunity? For me, it looked like there was a foul on Pye before that and he had part of Pye's shirt first to get in front, then Pye retaliated and they went down in a tangle that looked like a pen. Most are adamant it was a pen on their forum, of course (some no pen though after seeing the replay).* The ref really had to give something either way but nothing was the 'safest' option with how the play finished. There was also the foul given when they grabbed the ball off Pye? again first half and were in. Would like to have seen that again. I get it that the ref made his call and it's done but they are big moments and, if 1 or 2 have gone our way, it balances out the inevitable fan feeling that all big decisions go against us. *Edit - And our injuries in the first half were fake to break up the play and/or preplanned to let tactical instructions come on.....
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Post by Philcounty on Aug 19, 2024 12:51:52 GMT
He wasn't shy in going down Fletcher but it was a penalty for them IMO. I had a good view of it as I was that side of the stand. 13 minutes worth of highlights and they didn’t put it in… the strange editorial choices continue into the new season. I'm away so watched the game on the stream. It looked like a nailed on penalty from every angle until they showed the camera angle from behind the goal. Fletcher clearly dragged Pye by his arm and then threw himself to the floor. The ref got the call spot on. I was really hoping they'd show that angle on the highlights.
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Post by Philcounty on Aug 19, 2024 13:03:51 GMT
We’ve already become that club on Twitter in recent years as we now don’t describe opposition goals. Agree though that those extended highlights are very welcome and very good on the whole. Well, I provide that service! It was a massive moment in the game as if he gives the pen, I think it has to be a red too as Pye isn't trying to play the ball and it's a clearing goalscoring opportunity? For me, it looked like there was a foul on Pye before that and he had part of Pye's shirt first to get in front, then Pye retaliated and they went down in a tangle that looked like a pen. Most are adamant it was a pen on their forum, of course (some no pen though after seeing the replay).* The ref really had to give something either way but nothing was the 'safest' option with how the play finished. There was also the foul given when they grabbed the ball off Pye? again first half and were in. Would like to have seen that again. I get it that the ref made his call and it's done but they are big moments and, if 1 or 2 have gone our way, it balances out the inevitable fan feeling that all big decisions go against us. *Edit - And our injuries in the first half were fake to break up the play and/or preplanned to let tactical instructions come on..... I had a friend who, when he started working for the BBC, watched PL games and marked the times of key incidents to be included in the highlights for Match of the Day. Someone with editorial powers would then decide which clips made it into the package. I wonder if Dan or whoever make notes as they go or if he watches it back and picks out the key moments? Are the missing moments genuine mistakes or is someone deciding not to show certain moments? If it's just a careless omission, perhaps the club could put a system in place where international fans watching the stream can submit key events (with timings) that they feel should be included.
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Post by Philcounty on Aug 19, 2024 13:13:59 GMT
Well, I provide that service! It was a massive moment in the game as if he gives the pen, I think it has to be a red too as Pye isn't trying to play the ball and it's a clearing goalscoring opportunity? For me, it looked like there was a foul on Pye before that and he had part of Pye's shirt first to get in front, then Pye retaliated and they went down in a tangle that looked like a pen. Most are adamant it was a pen on their forum, of course (some no pen though after seeing the replay).* The ref really had to give something either way but nothing was the 'safest' option with how the play finished. There was also the foul given when they grabbed the ball off Pye? again first half and were in. Would like to have seen that again. I get it that the ref made his call and it's done but they are big moments and, if 1 or 2 have gone our way, it balances out the inevitable fan feeling that all big decisions go against us. *Edit - And our injuries in the first half were fake to break up the play and/or preplanned to let tactical instructions come on..... I had a friend who, when he started working for the BBC, watched PL games and marked the times of key incidents to be included in the highlights for Match of the Day. Someone with editorial powers would then decide which clips made it into the package. I wonder if Dan or whoever make notes as they go or if he watches it back and picks out the key moments? Are the missing moments genuine mistakes or is someone deciding not to show certain moments? If it's just a careless omission, perhaps the club could put a system in place where international fans watching the stream can submit key events (with timings) that they feel should be included. I saw Careless Omission supporting Mystery Jets at The Roadhouse in 2005.
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Post by Barmy Blue Army on Aug 19, 2024 13:24:21 GMT
Well, I provide that service! It was a massive moment in the game as if he gives the pen, I think it has to be a red too as Pye isn't trying to play the ball and it's a clearing goalscoring opportunity? For me, it looked like there was a foul on Pye before that and he had part of Pye's shirt first to get in front, then Pye retaliated and they went down in a tangle that looked like a pen. Most are adamant it was a pen on their forum, of course (some no pen though after seeing the replay).* The ref really had to give something either way but nothing was the 'safest' option with how the play finished. There was also the foul given when they grabbed the ball off Pye? again first half and were in. Would like to have seen that again. I get it that the ref made his call and it's done but they are big moments and, if 1 or 2 have gone our way, it balances out the inevitable fan feeling that all big decisions go against us. *Edit - And our injuries in the first half were fake to break up the play and/or preplanned to let tactical instructions come on..... I had a friend who, when he started working for the BBC, watched PL games and marked the times of key incidents to be included in the highlights for Match of the Day. Someone with editorial powers would then decide which clips made it into the package. I wonder if Dan or whoever make notes as they go or if he watches it back and picks out the key moments? Are the missing moments genuine mistakes or is someone deciding not to show certain moments? If it's just a careless omission, perhaps the club could put a system in place where international fans watching the stream can submit key events (with timings) that they feel should be included. Probably a bit too much work for our level but I'd like to think we're taking notes or the X updates would serve that purpose.
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Post by Nik on Aug 19, 2024 14:31:20 GMT
He wasn't shy in going down Fletcher but it was a penalty for them IMO. I had a good view of it as I was that side of the stand. 100%; we massively got away with one there. I thought the ref gave us everything and more; all the little niggly fouls and even Wootton winning free kicks from defenders.
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Post by slomasscfc on Aug 19, 2024 15:58:26 GMT
Just to add.over 15 mins to walk out of a stadium & a row of seats collapsing during goal celebrations .how has the away side passed ground regulations. I hope that we don't get the blame for broken seats. Was anyone hurt? I remember the previous temp stand they had on that side had notable cracks in the flooring when we won 4-0 twenty years ago, and later that season a Sheff Weds fan fell through, or something along those lines. Remember that 4-0 being told by a steward before game not to jump around too much as debris falls off the back of the stand
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Post by suedehead on Aug 19, 2024 18:57:51 GMT
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