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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2014 21:04:52 GMT
Yes, I would have Jim back at County tonight if the opportunity came up. Anyone who thinks Jim's second spell with us was a realistic reflection on his ability, and that board influence was not involved, are deluded. Jim is on par with Danny Bergara IMHO.
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Post by since77 on Jan 11, 2014 21:09:22 GMT
A resounding No for me. He's better selling cars.
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Post by CB1883 on Jan 11, 2014 21:25:42 GMT
A resounding No for me. He's better selling cars. So the manager that saved us from relegation when we were massive odds on favourites to go down in his first half a season, marginally missed out on the play offs in his first full season setting a football league record along the way, got us promoted and gave us some fantastic days out in his second full season and became the first County manager to win at Wembley and then got us as high as the play off positions in League One before the shit hit he fan is better off selling cars? Whatever personal grievance you may have with Gannon doesn't justify the pathetic post you just made.
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Post by runtothehills on Jan 11, 2014 21:30:02 GMT
I'm honestly not sure how i feel about it, AL has done a decent job and can Jim manage part time players, there are a lot of variables, as said earlier restarting the youth academy and getting the groundsman back would be good as would being able to go full time again.
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Post by Ngard on Jan 11, 2014 21:35:40 GMT
Jim Gannon would only work with himself as manager, Peter Ward as his assistant and Alan Lord as scout/development manager. We're years away from having that sort of sustainable structure. Not to mention the death knell it would be over Alan Lord's head to have JG back. I know they have a good working relationship but if results go pear shaped then only a few games the fans would be calling for Gannon to be reinstated. Think of it like the issue of Ferguson breathing down the neck of Moyes. It would be untenable.
The circumstances aren't right for Gannon to come back and it would remain to be seen whether he could even cope at this low level of football, we only have to look at him struggling at Northwich Vics for that.
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Post by Imposter on Jan 11, 2014 22:25:18 GMT
behind the scenes as a director type, certainly. As manager, No. I'd rather not have to the budget constrained by needing to pay off another 15 players that he has managed to upset within 3 days of arriving. If he did upset them it would probably be because they were social loafers and wafers. A negative, unhealthy influence in any club or team. And therefore in the long-run it would be better for the team and finances to get rid of them, even if it's a little costly in the short-term.
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Post by Dids on Jan 11, 2014 23:38:27 GMT
100% yes
Anyone who says otherwise is clueless/bitter
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Post by J on Jan 12, 2014 0:16:26 GMT
I'd love Jim back at some point in the future.
Despite the slagging he gets from some people, he's been a successful manager for us. And I think he loves this club and could do great things.
But I'd keep Lordy for the moment, and as long as he wants it.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2014 10:00:32 GMT
100% yes Anyone who says otherwise is clueless/bitter Well thats a valid argument... If you Ignore the football and think about the wages, bonus add ons, difficulty to manage and PR battle then it becomes a harder decision Plus, We can't afford him as it stands and for the record I think he is a great football manager, but the hassle outweighs the positives for me.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2014 10:13:03 GMT
Provided it is with Lordy's blessing then yes because I want to see a return to the philosophy of bringing young raw talent into the club and developing that into players who can go on to play in the top league and even at international level.
It never happened before, and it certainly hasn't happened since Gannon, Ward and Lord worked together.
To do that we need a team all pulling in the same direction.
At the moment we've got Lordy doing it by himself and it takes, as I said, a team and I think Gannon and Lordy are that team and if in some fantasy if Wardy can be persuaded to come back then we are laughing.
To be fair if I was Gannon I would need so many assurances that it will probably remain a fantasy. Hopefully we will then stand by Lordy but I expect the clowns who want another 'Bogie' type appointment (non-league expert lol!) and we will just continue to bring in crappy social loafers and under achievers and remain at this level or worse.
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Post by bobsplash on Jan 12, 2014 10:17:48 GMT
100% yes Anyone who says otherwise is clueless/bitter Ok.......anyway, it's a no from me. Time to move on and before anyone wishes that I rot in hell for having such a crazy opinion, well its just that, my opinion!
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Post by since77 on Jan 12, 2014 10:31:51 GMT
Your not allowed that opinion Bob. The poll should really read "Do you want Jim back ? Yes or Yes"
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Post by vicar on Jan 12, 2014 11:05:34 GMT
Your not allowed that opinion Bob. The poll should really read "Do you want Jim back ? Yes or Yes" Come on mate there's plenty saying no, I'm saying yes but I know he divides opinion.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2014 11:09:15 GMT
Everyone is entitled to an opinion but don't just say 'no' ffs, suggest an alternative solution and vigorously back it up with relevant facts and figures, and be prepared for an alternative view which will be backed up just as vigorously. And when the alternative is presented, even if it includes a bit of 'winkler' name calling, rise above it and restate your case and promote your own suggestion.
Don't just go off in a sulk.
Schoolboy 'yes no' arguments 'just because' will get us nowhere.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2014 13:36:51 GMT
developing that into players who can go on to play in the top league and even at international level. It never happened before Err what about when Dave Jones was manager, Players like Paul Jones and Chris Marsden who were signed by him and then went onto play in the premiership and in the case of Jones, many international caps foer Wales, other players already under the management of Jones went on to play in the premiership, Todd, Armstrong, Sean Connelly, Kevin Cooper.
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