3330
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Post by 3330 on Apr 18, 2024 17:04:12 GMT
The Auotoglass Trophy /LDV Vans ect ect..... has been watered down from a very thin format to a joke The League cup shouldn't have any Premier teams in it in my opinion Now the FA cup has been watered down to suit the bigger richer clubs I wish the big 6 in the premier would F*ck off to a super league and give us back the formats we all love I don't agree with the League Cup not having any Premier League teams in. It's one of our two national cups and rightly a european place is attached to it and gave us our best giant killing memories. If you ask me Champions League should be 1st in the Prem, FA Cup and League Cup winners, with (if we get 4 spots) 2nd in the Prem going in the qualifiers. Otherwise it's not a "Champions" League. Agree with everything else. Just to explain my thought's i know i wont change anyone else's opinion. The premier league want less games(ones that do not make enough money) ....That i think we can all agree on. I know we nearly did it......... but what realistic chance do any of the clubs in the EFL have of going all the way in the later rounds ? If the European place was dropped out of it a large majority of the premier league would put out a team of kids in this competition in the early rounds. and remember when we did well in this competition replays were part of it ....they have now gone So in my opinion ....make it an EFL competition and give the clubs in it a chance to progress in a cup competition that means something from the fist round until the final
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Fez
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Post by Fez on Apr 18, 2024 17:06:01 GMT
EFL clubs not even consulted. Bradford CEO said he found out via the sky sports app! That's the most annoying part of it for me. Brokering an agreement with the Premier League behind closed doors, and the disrespect shown to the Football League by keeping them completely in the dark.
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Post by Stranded Hatter on Apr 18, 2024 17:06:14 GMT
Absolutely spot on. Finishing 2nd, 3rd or 4th & winning absolutely nothing makes a mockery of being entered into a competition which has the moniker champions in it's title. It being called 'Champions' is neither here nor there really, it's a branding thing - the argument is whether the competition itself is better as a format with 2nd, 3rd, etc, rather than just Champions. Certainly in the knock out rounds I'd argue yes, and there's a much greater depth in quality. (the old format likely wouldn't work in the modern game with the uneven distribution of wealth) It's not even the name of it for me. Winning your national cup competition (especially when one of them is the oldest football competition in the world) should carry more prestige than finishing 2nd, 3rd or 4th in the top flight. I accept that is a matter of opinion but one of them has won something, the other... hasn't.
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Post by hedleyverity on Apr 18, 2024 17:41:23 GMT
Good for tranmere, every club in the country should do the same, it’s shocking that the fa just bend over for some cash from the prem because a couple of clubs have had a moan, thos clubs should just piss off into a European league and leave the rest of us to it. The non premier league clubs should advise the FA they can stick their cup up their arse, let’s see what it’s worth as a league cup, and a reserve one at that
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Post by scfc73 on Apr 18, 2024 17:51:28 GMT
Good for tranmere, every club in the country should do the same, it’s shocking that the fa just bend over for some cash from the prem because a couple of clubs have had a moan, thos clubs should just piss off into a European league and leave the rest of us to it. The non premier league clubs should advise the FA they can stick their cup up their arse, let’s see what it’s worth as a league cup, and a reserve one at that They could at the very least grow some balls & end the ridiculous practice of premier league youth teams competing in the football league trophy. I don't think I've heard a single fan from any club who thinks that's a good idea. The premier league clubs probably wouldn't give a toss but at least it would show that the EFL are listening to fan's of EFL clubs.
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Post by Barmy Blue Army on Apr 18, 2024 18:07:01 GMT
Completely agree that replays should remain for the reasons given. To me, a potential compromise could have been what the FA Trophy do (I think). No replay is both sides agree that prematch. That would help reduce fixture congestion in the all PL and maybe PL-Championship ties.
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Post by County Blue on Apr 18, 2024 18:07:39 GMT
This all started with the Semis being moved to Wembley, (money again). Tradition - don’t make me laugh, it’s no longer the FA Cup, so just call it something else. Next thing is they’ll dispense with the draw, and teams will just make bids for a preferred opponent. Ugh
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Post by countybumpkin on Apr 18, 2024 18:19:43 GMT
The only way this could ever be fair is if you’re drawn against a team from a higher division, you get the choice of playing at home or away.
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Post by Philcounty on Apr 18, 2024 20:44:08 GMT
Another one. Looking forward to seeing County adding our name to this.
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Post by Philcounty on Apr 18, 2024 20:47:48 GMT
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Post by Philcounty on Apr 18, 2024 21:09:19 GMT
York owner
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Post by orkneyhatter on Apr 18, 2024 22:17:24 GMT
Not happy about this. Apart from the extra revenue it's the memories created of nights like Bolton. The magic of the FA Cup has finally gone with this. And why-to pander to the big boys who have squads big enough to cope with the odd replay. These clubs who go on pre season tours abroad, want a winter break but then go abroad for a training cawho play less league matches than the 72 but more nonsense group stages in champions( not) league and the other inflated European competitions.
If they can't cope with all these fixtures then make the Champions League for champions only and a knockout as before. That would reduce the number of teams and matches. Or let them withdraw from the FA Cup and let the 72 plus non league teams compete for the FA Cup. Scrap the League Cup and Trophy then. Or a few options to recompense lower tier clubs if this does go ahead:
-if match is drawn award the tie to the lower placed team
-allow lower placed team to have the option of a home tie if they are drawn away.
Or perhaps all the 72 plus non league clubs voluntarily withdraw from next seasons competition. Yes I know they can't but the FA can't punish them all or run a cup competition with 20 Premier League teams only.
These options sound daft but it's obvious the FA no longer have any respect for the vast majority of the football pyramid.
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Post by ancienthatter on Apr 18, 2024 22:22:14 GMT
The FA Cup doesn’t belong to the Premier League. Why is the Premier League setting the rules for cash? Have The FA been absolutely spineless here for cash.. maybe to pay for their Wembley contract? Get a proper regulator in ASAP. This stinks.. no consultation.. no representative decision making and absolutely no respect for the football pyramid. Totally shameless.
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Post by gibbo on Apr 19, 2024 7:18:47 GMT
It's not even the name of it for me. Winning your national cup competition (especially when one of them is the oldest football competition in the world) should carry more prestige than finishing 2nd, 3rd or 4th in the top flight. I accept that is a matter of opinion but one of them has won something, the other... hasn't. Not necessarily, e.g. finishing 2nd in League 1 carries more prestige than winning the Football League Trophy, even though you've not actually won anything. Yon can win an FA Cup in 6 games, is that more prestigious than 2nd over a 38 game season?
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Post by timberwolf on Apr 19, 2024 7:28:08 GMT
Good for tranmere, every club in the country should do the same, it’s shocking that the fa just bend over for some cash from the prem because a couple of clubs have had a moan, thos clubs should just piss off into a European league and leave the rest of us to it. The non premier league clubs should advise the FA they can stick their cup up their arse, let’s see what it’s worth as a league cup, and a reserve one at that Doubt they,ll tell them to do that with the sponsorship money they,ll get out of it even if they lost in the first round they played in. Its just a cash cow for clubs now and reaching the 3rd round onwards is more about getting a big game with a big cash payout than going further in the competition. No club below the second tier in recent history have ever got to a final even when multiple re plays were in force. The way its been done has not helped the situation but remember for every re play a lower club succeeds in there are more where they do not. Given the choice what would those prefer to see who are against the new system. Win on penaltys at Old Trafford or draw and bring em back to EP and see County lose.
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