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Post by cheshirecountyfan on Sept 28, 2022 12:35:51 GMT
The thing with football is its basically every other saturday with the odd mid week game from august till the first week in may. It way be a bit inconveniant for residents but not like living near a bus or railway station is as thats 6 days a week 52 weeks a year. Always have said there are other places to live in any price range and it aint compulsory to live near a football ground. If it bothers people that much find somewhere else when they are looking in the same way i,d never live close to any pub or places that play music. Spot on Also a bit like people moving from a major city to small village and complaint that farm animals and church bells keep them awake at night! |
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Post by stonerose on Sept 28, 2022 12:46:36 GMT
Has anybody had a nosey at the consultation event at the ground yet? I'm unsure if to pop in this week or wait until the plans are submitted and get a proper feel for it when the plans and redevelopment model are on show.
What's the timescale for the consultation period to the club being then allowed to submit formal planning permission?
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Post by ancienthatter on Sept 28, 2022 12:57:43 GMT
Planning on going at 4pm… anyone been yet? Any more drawings or plans on display?
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Post by hedleyverity on Sept 28, 2022 15:26:28 GMT
Head of reading Yellowboard all day. Hopefully a role similar to the one the guy at Doncaster was doing who contacted us before we played there. He seemed to be doing a decent job there. All the staff at Donny were fantastic, car park people let me off being a quid short on the parking ( that video was out of date), ticket office staff sorted me out after the post office took 9 days to deliver my ticket which didn’t arrive until a couple of days after the match, stewards all had the right attitude (no #war), pies were crap and overpriced but the service was good. Someone from County should spend a match there seeing how it can be done. |
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Post by ancienthatter on Sept 28, 2022 16:08:34 GMT
Has anybody had a nosey at the consultation event at the ground yet? I'm unsure if to pop in this week or wait until the plans are submitted and get a proper feel for it when the plans and redevelopment model are on show. What's the timescale for the consultation period to the club being then allowed to submit formal planning permission? Went this afternoon.. nothing new to what’s already in the website. But another event in about 4 weeks with detailed plans for the Railway End. |
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Post by timberwolf on Sept 29, 2022 9:18:54 GMT
All the staff at Donny were fantastic, car park people let me off being a quid short on the parking ( that video was out of date), ticket office staff sorted me out after the post office took 9 days to deliver my ticket which didn’t arrive until a couple of days after the match, stewards all had the right attitude (no #war), pies were crap and overpriced but the service was good. Someone from County should spend a match there seeing how it can be done. They have always had a good attitude to everyone at donny even back in the belle vue days. My partner has always had a soft spot for them so we used to watch a few games at both grounds over the years. Got to know the car park staff and they used to turn a blind eye when we went into the car park. Suppose its a reason why they get similar attendances to us starting from an under 1,000 figure the season they dropped out of the league in the 90,s. Bit like charlton and their attitude when we played em in the 2nd tier days with one of their suits saying after showing surprise at their kids cost that they were not in business to either rip fans off or make em feel uncomfortable. |
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Post by Duncan McOchin on Nov 10, 2022 11:01:05 GMT
Not seen this mentioned anywhere so thought I'd post it - Environmental Impact Aspect report from the club regarding the proposed redevelopment. Only the very first step in a very long process, but interesting because it provides more details & a site plan planning.stockport.gov.uk/PlanningData-live/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=documents&keyVal=RIV4P9PJ0EK00Salient points - - Overall capacity appx 19,600 - South Stand (Pop Side) rebuilt to 6,500 - East Stand (Railway End) rebuilt to 4,500 - North Stand (Main Stand) extended to 3,500 - No proposed work to the Cheadle End - Hospitality areas in East & South stands - Car parking areas behind East & South stands, with new access from Stockholm Road - East Stand development to begin in 2023 'off season' |
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Post by Chaddz09 on Nov 10, 2022 11:10:23 GMT
Not seen this mentioned anywhere so thought I'd post it - Environmental Impact Aspect report from the club regarding the proposed redevelopment. Only the very first step in a very long process, but interesting because it provides more details & a site plan planning.stockport.gov.uk/PlanningData-live/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=documents&keyVal=RIV4P9PJ0EK00Salient points - - Overall capacity appx 19,600 - South Stand (Pop Side) rebuilt to 6,500 - East Stand (Railway End) rebuilt to 4,500 - North Stand (Main Stand) extended to 3,500 - No proposed work to the Cheadle End - Hospitality areas in East & South stands - Car parking areas behind East & South stands, with new access from Stockholm Road - East Stand development to begin in 2023 'off season' Great find this! Interesting about the new access point, never entered my mind (unless I've missed it in previous threads) that the ground could be accessed anywhere other than along Hardcastle Rd. |
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Post by Duncan McOchin on Nov 10, 2022 11:27:02 GMT
Yeah there was always going to be a need for additional road access. It's interesting how the southern parcel of land includes the access road for the Network Rail site behind the Pop Side, stops extra traffic clogging up Moscow Rd
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Post by m14hatter on Nov 10, 2022 11:33:00 GMT
Glad to see they’ve included plans for a new access road. As others have said it’s needed if we’re going to grow.
Still think 19,600 is far too big for us. Only have to look at Tranmere the other night, who have pretty identical circumstances to us to see we don’t need a capacity that big. 15,000 would be more than enough.
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Post by stockytwo on Nov 10, 2022 11:42:13 GMT
Still think 19,600 is far too big for us. Only have to look at Tranmere the other night, who have pretty identical circumstances to us to see we don’t need a capacity that big. 15,000 would be more than enough. Don't think Tranmere are identical circumstances to us at all. We have an owner who is putting the money in to take us to the championship. Given how we grew from 3-4K when we were shite in the national north to 8-10k in league two mid table, it's definately realistic to expect crowds of 15-20k in the championship. Especially considering away followings. Even if we don't get to the championship and end of in league one for a bit, I think we could definately pull in 10-15k regularly given how much our support is growing right now. If you're going to get anywhere near 15k you may as well spend the extra while you can and get 20K capacity to fill it for big cup games etc. Around covid time i'd have agreed with you that 15K would have been a reasonable capacity but seeing how attendances have exploded since then we should be aiming for 20K (in stages). |
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Post by m14hatter on Nov 10, 2022 11:52:22 GMT
Still think 19,600 is far too big for us. Only have to look at Tranmere the other night, who have pretty identical circumstances to us to see we don’t need a capacity that big. 15,000 would be more than enough. Don't think Tranmere are identical circumstances to us at all. We have an owner who is putting the money in to take us to the championship. Given how we grew from 3-4K when we were shite in the national north to 8-10k in league two mid table, it's definately realistic to expect crowds of 15-20k in the championship. Especially considering away followings. Even if we don't get to the championship and end of in league one for a bit, I think we could definately pull in 10-15k regularly given how much our support is growing right now. If you're going to get anywhere near 15k you may as well spend the extra while you can and get 20K capacity to fill it for big cup games etc. Around covid time i'd have agreed with you that 15K would have been a reasonable capacity but seeing how attendances have exploded since then we should be aiming for 20K (in stages). I’d say they are identical. Both got two big PL clubs on our door steps. They have wealthy owners who got them up to league one and invested in some of the infrastructure in the club. Not investing as much post covid though. I don’t see us ever getting more than 12,000 home fans on a regular basis in the championship. When we inevitably drop again, so would the crowds and we’d be left rattling around a half empty stadium at best. Would be much better to have a smaller compact stadium where the atmosphere is kept in and there are more frequent sold out matches. |
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Post by houldsworthhatter on Nov 10, 2022 11:52:45 GMT
Glad to see they’ve included plans for a new access road. As others have said it’s needed if we’re going to grow. Still think 19,600 is far too big for us. Only have to look at Tranmere the other night, who have pretty identical circumstances to us to see we don’t need a capacity that big. 15,000 would be more than enough. Didn’t they say at the end of September the changes aren’t just happening. They’re linked to progression and need? RE has needed sorting for a long time. They plan to build incrementally but if we (I know we probably won’t but said it before!) sank back to non league and didn’t get the crowds we’d hold off the other stands. That’s my understanding anyway. They simply want the approval which would speed things up at the required times. They’re not just throwing 2 new stands and an extension of the main stand come what may. |
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Post by hedleyverity on Nov 10, 2022 12:02:41 GMT
I can’t see the Main Stand extension ever happening, too expensive for too few additional seats that we will rarely if ever need I reckon.
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Post by stockytwo on Nov 10, 2022 12:22:45 GMT
I’d say they are identical. Both got two big PL clubs on our door steps. They have wealthy owners who got them up to league one and invested in some of the infrastructure in the club. Not investing as much post covid though. We're getting plenty more fans right now than Tranmere were getting in league one. I get what you're saying, that theoretically we should be similar size as we are both essentially clubs on the edge of big cities with two big teams in each. You should be right... however, given how our fan base has grown in just a few small years there's more evidence that if we grow with it and don't limit it, it will keep growing. Feel like Stockport has more identity nationally now than it used to. Far more than the wirral which is basically a hodge podge of different towns. If our club continues on it's trajectory I garauntee we'll keep attracting young fans and the club will grow. I think we'd be absolutely stupid to put a 15k cap on that. Stott is no mug. |
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