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Post by hedleyverity on Nov 30, 2020 14:07:44 GMT
Haven't Wimbledon had financial problems getting what they've got done? Don't think anything more expensive was possible.
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Post by Duncan McOchin on Nov 30, 2020 14:42:12 GMT
I think the placement of the tip-up seating makes it look lower down than it is, it's connected in the middle rather than at the bottom, so you sit higher up than it looks. There'd be plenty of room to see over the top, though if it's the same as the other type of rail seating, there might be a problem for shorter people banging the back of their heads when sat down
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Post by edinburghhatter on Nov 30, 2020 16:28:10 GMT
Haven't Wimbledon had financial problems getting what they've got done? Don't think anything more expensive was possible. They certainly have! It ultimately took a successful appeal to their fans to raise enough to get as far as they have.
Their new stadium isn't that small either: it's capacity is almost the same as EP, with unobstructed views all round and (in the main stand) extensive lounge and corporate facilities. The three sides which are lower than the main stand are all capable of being expanded (or more likely completely replaced) in the future: the land is available behind each of them to do so. These semi-permanent stands are also apparently built to a much higher spec than (for example) those at Salford's ground... which are themselves fine as a place to watch a game from.
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Post by timberwolf on Dec 1, 2020 9:39:15 GMT
The barriers themselves make a lot of sense from a safety POV. The fact that (for legal reasons?) you also have to have a "seat" (which 90+% of the time will never be used as such) is where the nonsense comes in.
just cannot get my head round the reason for having a seat in a standing area and why it is legal to have them. if you want to sit you go to a seating part of the ground and vice versa. at least having a standing alternative is far better than buying a seat where some infront of you seem to create their own standing area where you have to join em if you want to watch the game. thats happened more than once at away grounds.
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Post by Henry Pratt on Dec 1, 2020 9:50:02 GMT
The barriers themselves make a lot of sense from a safety POV. The fact that (for legal reasons?) you also have to have a "seat" (which 90+% of the time will never be used as such) is where the nonsense comes in.
just cannot get my head round the reason for having a seat in a standing area and why it is legal to have them. if you want to sit you go to a seating part of the ground and vice versa. at least having a standing alternative is far better than buying a seat where some infront of you seem to create their own standing area where you have to join em if you want to watch the game. thats happened more than once at away grounds. Tend to agree. Those rail seats seem like a good idea, but I suspect they'd hardly, if ever, get used. And if they were, everyone would just stand up in front of them anyway, as happens at a lot of places now. Just keep the safe standing, with allocated places and the full-row barriers.
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Post by BWScarf on Dec 1, 2020 10:09:48 GMT
just cannot get my head round the reason for having a seat in a standing area and why it is legal to have them. if you want to sit you go to a seating part of the ground and vice versa. at least having a standing alternative is far better than buying a seat where some infront of you seem to create their own standing area where you have to join em if you want to watch the game. thats happened more than once at away grounds. Tend to agree. Those rail seats seem like a good idea, but I suspect they'd hardly, if ever, get used. And if they were, everyone would just stand up in front of them anyway, as happens at a lot of places now. Just keep the safe standing, with allocated places and the full-row barriers. It makes sense to me. It's a fall-back for the clubs. They're not intended to be used as seats, but if for example we enter an era where safe standing is allowed in L1 and L2, but not in the Championship, as daft as that may be, it allows clubs to get these things installed and not have to worry. The ones I mentioned yesterday are designed so the folded-up seat in completely flush with the barrier itself. www.safestandingroadshow.co.uk/
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Post by scfc29 on Dec 1, 2020 10:49:09 GMT
The safe standing has the seating options because in the Champions League/Europa League safe standing isn’t allowed. The European clubs (probably the manufactures biggest customers) need to be a able to have the option to be able to put the seats ‘down’ for these games.
Should we get safe standing the seats would probably never be used.
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Post by suedehead on Dec 2, 2020 12:34:15 GMT
Sneaky pic of the Cheadle End. Surprised more haven't leaked out tbh.
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Post by DaveLong79 on Dec 2, 2020 14:19:16 GMT
When I was a student in Coventry they were then at highfield road and until my last term premier league. When they played a Monday/ Sunday tv game which was one of those contractual ones rather than playing a big club they would let the students in for a fiver. It was ideal the ground was in the student area and it drummed up interest. Although the majority of the students stayed committed to the clubs they supported when they arrived. Only one friend who stayed local follows cov now. I think we should aim at school kids and youth football teams. Students are parochial and don't generally travel outside their locations much. I think we should do both along with other stuff. It plants the idea of going to County into their heads. No one is saying many, if any of them will become full on County fans - but they might go to the odd game with their mates, all of whom might have different allegiances. Not only are we a good standard and easy enough to get to, we're also "inoffensive" in a way, I can see a lot would think of going to City or Utd as cheating on their first love, but Stockport " what truck do I have with them?". Plus there is the longer term prospect that a lot of students do settle in and around South Manchester and Stockport - and might then think about County when it comes to taking kids to a Football game. A dad or mum might be a fan of Exeter or Wolves or Arsenal or Portsmouth or whoever- but time, money, family commitments might mean it's just not possible or practicable to go back there all the time for football, but County's local they've been a few times as a student, so they take the kids to County. Who knows maybe Mum and/or dad even get s season ticket along with the kids - they won't stop being a Boston or Sunderland, or whoever fan - but the kids will likely grow up dedicated County fans. And it's not like we're abandoning other projects to do this, or doing it all the time - it's once or twice a season. We should always be looking for opportunities and ways to increase our fanbase and diversify it. Other options could include an official club presence at Stockport Pride and an annual Pride Match. There are LGBT groups in both Stockport and Manchester we could invite, both those aimed at youth groups, but also those aimed at LGBT sports/Football fans/players. We could deck the place out with rainbows and invite a suitable charity to do the bucket collection that day (e.g. the Albert Kennedy Trust). We could also make something of Black History Month. Have an exhibition in the museum focusing on the contribution of BAME players and managers - Palmer, Singh, Francis, Preece, Wharton, etc... Again invite BAME communnity/social groups and have a suitable bucket collection partner for the day (say the Sickle Cell charity for example). These are just two examples off the top of my head. And all 3 should be in addition to and complement the existing work the community foundation do, the free tickets for school kids, and the free tickets for youth sport and social groups. They shouldn't replace or be in competition. This reply is slightly off topic, so I apologise. Some great ideas there and if anyone has any serious ideas about getting some of these off the ground, give me a shout, I'm more than willing to help. like the Burnley thread I'll copy and paste a piece of an article for TSBW from back in the early first lockdown days... During our trip to Dagenham and Redbridge earlier this year they were promoting their ‘Diversity Day’. The event staged at the next home game was designated to promote and celebrate diversity within the community. Reduced ticket prices (as low as 50p) were used to give a chance for everyone who wanted to attend the game to be able to do so. A fantastic initiative and one which they had been embracing for 11 years. Again, this is something which County can very easily implement, it would generate some good publicity, and would sit nicely alongside the caring and generous atmosphere which the NHS donations have nurtured recently. Furthermore, and this is most important, a branch of the club, possibly run by the fans, dedicated to supporting local charities, initiatives and promoting the discussion of social issues should be allowed to develop and evolve. Whereas the Diversity Day-style event would be a one off, the ‘good causes supporting’ branch of County would be a year-round project. The more cynical of you and no doubt the brainless simpletons who purport the bigotry which this is trying to eradicate, will point out, is that these types of heart-warming initiatives are usually sneered at and seen as a way of pandering or wanting to be politically correct, but that is exactly the reason why Dagenham’s Diversity Day is vital in order to change the way people think and ultimately to make Edgeley Park a more welcoming and friendlier place. County have already made some excellent inroads into community engagement and charity support; The Supporter’s Co-Op provides free tickets to many schools and football clubs, the Samaritans are the back-of-shirt sponsor on the third/alternate shirt, there are bucket collections for various local charities and projects and not forgetting the great work undertaken by the County Community Foundation; all worthwhile and vital elements of County’s community work. I am sure everyone who has benefitted from them is very grateful, but there is always more we can do. For example, County can promote, via social media, at home games and through the programme, a local food bank, ESOL courses, signposting to mental health, debt or benefits advice services, even something as simple as a list of contact numbers for local charities would be useful. Stockport Pride is usually held in July, at a time when club news is usually hard to come by County could easily get involved and promote it. The club has a very large audience, both online and in person, and helping local charities and projects which sometimes rely on the exposure from more high profile local businesses means everyone benefits from this. Again, the cynics may say this isn’t for County to become involved with and that it doesn’t relate to football. My response would ask those people to see County as a huge part of the local community, representing everyone, regardless of sexuality, skin colour or religion. As a former Housing Officer, I know a housing association is much more than just houses and collecting rent, and the same analogy can be used for a football club; County are much more than a football club, they are an intrinsic part of the community. From an individual's point of view, seeing these issues and good causes being promoted by the club they love so much could be the helping hand, no matter how small, that someone needs to change their life for the good. 8.5.5
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Post by suedehead on Dec 2, 2020 14:24:50 GMT
Sneaky pic of the Cheadle End. Surprised more haven't leaked out tbh. Ooof, tweet deleted!
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Post by stonerose on Dec 2, 2020 14:44:01 GMT
There's somebody on the inside that keeps leaking these pictures, that's the dressing room and now the concourse that have been revealed online.
It's plans for new stands that I want to see, they need to pull their finger out!
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Post by Count de Stockport on Dec 2, 2020 14:49:01 GMT
There's somebody on the inside that keeps leaking these pictures, that's the dressing room and now the concourse that have been revealed online. It's plans for new stands that I want to see, they need to pull their finger out! Yeh but I'd still like to see the concourse!
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Post by advent on Dec 2, 2020 15:00:16 GMT
There's somebody on the inside that keeps leaking these pictures, that's the dressing room and now the concourse that have been revealed online. It's plans for new stands that I want to see, they need to pull their finger out! Yeh but I'd still like to see the concourse!
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Post by Count de Stockport on Dec 2, 2020 15:13:48 GMT
Thanks, Advent! Looking great - do we know where this was taken? i.e. from the entrance that would be nearest the Moan Stand or the one nearest the Pop Side?
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Post by advent on Dec 2, 2020 15:16:54 GMT
Thanks, Advent! Looking great - do we know where this was taken? i.e. from the entrance that would be nearest the Moan Stand or the one nearest the Pop Side? Im not entirely sure, its quite hard to work out which entrance it is
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