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Post by suedehead on Dec 27, 2020 13:41:27 GMT
I’m sure I heard similar in commentary for what might have been the Halifax game. Might just have been down to the order quantities when buying them. Maybe there's some kind of design feature planned for that section, I don't think a badge is possible but they might have something planned. Ryan McKnight’s face in the seats, same as Preston did with Finney.
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Post by vicar on Dec 27, 2020 14:00:33 GMT
Maybe there's some kind of design feature planned for that section, I don't think a badge is possible but they might have something planned. Ryan McKnight’s face in the seats, same as Preston did with Finney. That's thinking outside the box.
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Post by timberwolf on Dec 28, 2020 9:44:48 GMT
Maybe there's some kind of design feature planned for that section, I don't think a badge is possible but they might have something planned. Ryan McKnight’s face in the seats, same as Preston did with Finney. that would boost the sale of mushy peas as part of the pre match nosh for sure.
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Post by edinburghhatter on Jan 10, 2021 12:58:09 GMT
Re Edgeley Park refurbishment: the recent Daily Mail article states Mr Stott has invested over £1 million in refurbishment (which I'm sure we all applaud, as it's been long overdue). It goes on to say, however, "Stott is confident that County can make a profit as a club but he is wrestling with a limited ability to extend Edgeley Park beyond the 10,900 capacity."
I've said before that the key to any sizeable increase of the Railway End, in particular, is ownership of the land on which the (former?) bowling club and (former?) Labour club sit. And although County certainly own enough land behind the Pop side for expansion, without the Railway end land access to a newly expanded Pop side could be problematic.
From the drone image posted here just a couple of days ago, several things are clear: (1) the Labour club is still there (2) the bowling green is now completely covered in what look like stored shipping containers (3) there is a narrow steep strip behind the Railway end fence, which is effectively a part of the terrace it backs on to: as a teenager in the 60s I recall that the boundary fence at EP was actually at the bottom of the slope. I suspect that strip therefore actually already belongs to County (though I'm sure a lawyer could be found willing to challenge that!)
While Edgeley Park can undoubtedly be significantly expanded, (especially if the Pop Side and Railway End were completely flattened, and rebuilt from the ground up), it may be cheaper to do it piecemeal, by building behind the existing seated terraces. Hence the need for more land, at least at the Railway end.
The question of who actually owns EP is still there: is it still the Council, or the club, or some partnership of the two? And is there any possibility of compulsory purchase of the required land, in order to facilitate a development of mutual benefit to the Council and the club?
I just hope we're not going to see a continuation of decades of non-progress because some third party now effectively holds a ransom strip behind the Railway end.
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Post by mattyovrio on Jan 10, 2021 14:04:25 GMT
Ryan McKnight’s face in the seats, same as Preston did with Finney. That's thinking outside the box. More like thinking outside the brain
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Post by hedleyverity on Jan 10, 2021 14:28:29 GMT
The question of who actually owns EP is still there: is it still the Council, or the club, or some partnership of the two? And is there any possibility of compulsory purchase of the required land, in order to facilitate a development of mutual benefit to the Council and the club?
I'm sure we'd have heard all about it if the council had sold EP, it'd be interesting to know what the plan is though, I'm surprised Stott has spent that much on something he doesn't own, presumably he'd got a solid deal in place with the council before he bought the club.
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Post by desmond on Jan 10, 2021 16:06:37 GMT
The question of who actually owns EP is still there: is it still the Council, or the club, or some partnership of the two? And is there any possibility of compulsory purchase of the required land, in order to facilitate a development of mutual benefit to the Council and the club?
I'm sure we'd have heard all about it if the council had sold EP, it'd be interesting to know what the plan is though, I'm surprised Stott has spent that much on something he doesn't own, presumably he'd got a solid deal in place with the council before he bought the club. One of the more interesting points in the article for me was the point about the club becoming an education provider, presumably that would be tied to some additional funding and maybe help in creating a new stand under which facilities could be added.
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Post by Roman on Jan 10, 2021 16:39:35 GMT
Re Edgeley Park refurbishment: the recent Daily Mail article states Mr Stott has invested over £1 million in refurbishment (which I'm sure we all applaud, as it's been long overdue). It goes on to say, however, "Stott is confident that County can make a profit as a club but he is wrestling with a limited ability to extend Edgeley Park beyond the 10,900 capacity."
I've said before that the key to any sizeable increase of the Railway End, in particular, is ownership of the land on which the (former?) bowling club and (former?) Labour club sit. And although County certainly own enough land behind the Pop side for expansion, without the Railway end land access to a newly expanded Pop side could be problematic. From the drone image posted here just a couple of days ago, several things are clear: (1) the Labour club is still there (2) the bowling green is now completely covered in what look like stored shipping containers (3) there is a narrow steep strip behind the Railway end fence, which is effectively a part of the terrace it backs on to: as a teenager in the 60s I recall that the boundary fence at EP was actually at the bottom of the slope. I suspect that strip therefore actually already belongs to County (though I'm sure a lawyer could be found willing to challenge that!) While Edgeley Park can undoubtedly be significantly expanded, (especially if the Pop Side and Railway End were completely flattened, and rebuilt from the ground up), it may be cheaper to do it piecemeal, by building behind the existing seated terraces. Hence the need for more land, at least at the Railway end. The question of who actually owns EP is still there: is it still the Council, or the club, or some partnership of the two? And is there any possibility of compulsory purchase of the required land, in order to facilitate a development of mutual benefit to the Council and the club? I just hope we're not going to see a continuation of decades of non-progress because some third party now effectively holds a ransom strip behind the Railway end.
It’s not just the stands to gain planning permission we will need to facilitate parking for the increased capacity. As soon as those houses started to go Booth Street that was our long term plans to stay at EP almost diminished. If only there was a large plot of land as close to the town centre, bus station and train station as EP is. Would need good access to the motorway too.
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Post by suedehead on Jan 10, 2021 16:44:59 GMT
Regarding previous comments, not just today, that’s there’s loads of land at the back of the Popside, this photo begs to differ. Taken from the corner of CE and Popside, you can see it drops down almost immediately.
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Post by redhatter on Jan 10, 2021 16:47:50 GMT
Re Edgeley Park refurbishment: the recent Daily Mail article states Mr Stott has invested over £1 million in refurbishment (which I'm sure we all applaud, as it's been long overdue). It goes on to say, however, "Stott is confident that County can make a profit as a club but he is wrestling with a limited ability to extend Edgeley Park beyond the 10,900 capacity."
I've said before that the key to any sizeable increase of the Railway End, in particular, is ownership of the land on which the (former?) bowling club and (former?) Labour club sit. And although County certainly own enough land behind the Pop side for expansion, without the Railway end land access to a newly expanded Pop side could be problematic. From the drone image posted here just a couple of days ago, several things are clear: (1) the Labour club is still there (2) the bowling green is now completely covered in what look like stored shipping containers (3) there is a narrow steep strip behind the Railway end fence, which is effectively a part of the terrace it backs on to: as a teenager in the 60s I recall that the boundary fence at EP was actually at the bottom of the slope. I suspect that strip therefore actually already belongs to County (though I'm sure a lawyer could be found willing to challenge that!) While Edgeley Park can undoubtedly be significantly expanded, (especially if the Pop Side and Railway End were completely flattened, and rebuilt from the ground up), it may be cheaper to do it piecemeal, by building behind the existing seated terraces. Hence the need for more land, at least at the Railway end. The question of who actually owns EP is still there: is it still the Council, or the club, or some partnership of the two? And is there any possibility of compulsory purchase of the required land, in order to facilitate a development of mutual benefit to the Council and the club? I just hope we're not going to see a continuation of decades of non-progress because some third party now effectively holds a ransom strip behind the Railway end.
It’s not just the stands to gain planning permission we will need to facilitate parking for the increased capacity. As soon as those houses started to go Booth Street that was our long term plans to stay at EP almost diminished. If only there was a large plot of land as close to the town centre, bus station and train station as EP is. Would need good access to the motorway too.
I think that the Club have pursuaded the Council to limit the Booth Street development and push the boundary a little away from the Railway End.
I don't see why we should make away from Edgeley Park. Mark Stott has already spent £1 million on the stadium, according to the article in the Mail. I'm sure we wouldn't do this
We won't exceed the capacity for a long time. Even in the Championship, we only averaged a maximum of around 8,000.
There is scope to increase the capacity of Edgeley Park. The Main Stand can be developed either side. The Pop Side could be knocked down and we could build a 5,000 seater stand easily.
It's not just all about the Railway End and we need to stay at Edgeley Park!
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Post by suedehead on Jan 10, 2021 16:57:42 GMT
It’s not just the stands to gain planning permission we will need to facilitate parking for the increased capacity. As soon as those houses started to go Booth Street that was our long term plans to stay at EP almost diminished. If only there was a large plot of land as close to the town centre, bus station and train station as EP is. Would need good access to the motorway too. I think that the Club have pursuaded the Council to limit the Booth Street development and push the boundary a little away from the Railway End.
I don't see why we should make away from Edgeley Park. Mark Stott has already spent £1 million on the stadium, according to the article in the Mail. I'm sure we wouldn't do this
We won't exceed the capacity for a long time. Even in the Championship, we only averaged a maximum of around 8,000.
There is scope to increase the capacity of Edgeley Park. The Main Stand can be developed either side. The Pop Side could be knocked down and we could build a 5,000 seater stand easily.
It's not just all about the Railway End and we need to stay at Edgeley Park!
Championship was 20 years ago. If and when we’re in L1 I’d expect us to be similar to Lincoln and getting 8k/9k most weeks. I think when we’re back after this shitshow we’ll be doing 6k/7k even in non-league. The virus has showed people what they’re missing. If we had a regular league tomorrow with no restrictions I reckon it’d be close to a sell out.
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Post by m20hatter on Jan 10, 2021 17:02:18 GMT
Regarding previous comments, not just today, that’s there’s loads of land at the back of the Popside, this photo begs to differ. Taken from the corner of CE and Popside, you can see it drops down almost immediately. There’s also quite a large area at the back of the pop side that the catering hatches open on to. I don’t think you could extend the same width right across the back at ground level, but could be quite clever with cantilever construction etc.
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Post by Roman on Jan 10, 2021 17:04:20 GMT
It’s not just the stands to gain planning permission we will need to facilitate parking for the increased capacity. As soon as those houses started to go Booth Street that was our long term plans to stay at EP almost diminished. If only there was a large plot of land as close to the town centre, bus station and train station as EP is. Would need good access to the motorway too.
I think that the Club have pursuaded the Council to limit the Booth Street development and push the boundary a little away from the Railway End.
I don't see why we should make away from Edgeley Park. Mark Stott has already spent £1 million on the stadium, according to the article in the Mail. I'm sure we wouldn't do this
We won't exceed the capacity for a long time. Even in the Championship, we only averaged a maximum of around 8,000.
There is scope to increase the capacity of Edgeley Park. The Main Stand can be developed either side. The Pop Side could be knocked down and we could build a 5,000 seater stand easily.
It's not just all about the Railway End and we need to stay at Edgeley Park!
What about car parking? Why do we have to stay at Edgeley Park? I’m happy to stay if it can be made to work but if it can’t and there is an alternative in the right location and the design for a purpose built stadium is right then I’m happy with that. Part of making us profitable is maximising the match day revenue which is far more than 8,000 fans in EP. Corporate hospitality needs a view of the pitch, especially if we want to attract larger National companies. When we were in the Championship the facilities and infrastructure didn’t grow with us and the crowds therefore didn’t. This time we are starting from a better base crowd wise and an owner that is improving the “experience” off the pitch as well as on. We will get to the stage of regularly getting 10,000 in the ground this time around. Regarding spending a million pounds on EP he wants to improve the experience and attract more sponsorship, better players and more fans. Also if we did move this will take time so we need to look after the here and now. Whatever happens I don’t think anything should be ruled out and it’s going to be exciting!
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Post by redhatter on Jan 10, 2021 17:23:15 GMT
Regarding previous comments, not just today, that’s there’s loads of land at the back of the Popside, this photo begs to differ. Taken from the corner of CE and Popside, you can see it drops down almost immediately. There’s also quite a large area at the back of the pop side that the catering hatches open on to. I don’t think you could extend the same width right across the back at ground level, but could be quite clever with cantilever construction etc.
I appreciate there isn't the space near to the Cheadle End. As m20hatter says, there is space behind the Pop side for the catering. The stand would not be able to run the full length of the pitch, but there's definitely scope to take the Pop Side further back - as it used to be in the 70's.
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Post by 3330 on Jan 10, 2021 17:46:07 GMT
I think we all have our ideas of what a refurbished EP could look like looking at the investment in the cheadle end i think this will be the main commercial income for quite a few years sorting land deals and planning around EP will take time but at least we can say it is more of a reality than a dream personally i can't wait and i would love to see some plans but unfortunately it doesn't seem the way Mr Stott and his associates do business
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