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Post by Count de Stockport on Aug 14, 2024 7:52:59 GMT
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Post by timberwolf on Aug 14, 2024 7:54:31 GMT
I just think anyone committing heinous acts is wired up badly, I don't see it as an act to say their brains are not functioning correctly their act alone is often proof enough without a team of shrinks assessing him/her. I'd be very surprised if in most cases there weren’t alarm bells but no resources to do anything about them, I'm not saying society shouldn't be protected from these people but killing them doesn't bring anyone back, acting on warning signs might prevent the crimes from happening though. There are people who are wired up correctly but just hateful or nasty. Lots in my opinion. And, there are people who are not suffering from mental health defects that agree with those people. Seen this over the last couple of weeks for sure haven't we? Then there are some who are just ordinary run of the mill people who get wound up by just one type of incident. Its a bit like at sports where a really quiet mild mannered person goes absolutely ape once they go onto a sports field and would kick their granny if they were on the other side. Once the game is over they quickly revert to type.
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Post by herbiedumplings on Aug 14, 2024 7:57:05 GMT
Herbie, you could have at least watched the fifteen minute video before commenting on it within ten minutes You mean you don’t watch/listen to stuff sped up? bookriot.com/audiobook-speed/
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Post by bigmartin on Aug 14, 2024 11:44:23 GMT
I can't imagine. It was probably Starmer though. I get that by the way. It would be better to maintain a steel industry of course. But even if the coal mine was capable of good profit by exporting it's production I think it's something that they should proceed with. It's good for the area's development. Jobs, money, etc. And modern coal mines are not anywhere near as devastating to the local area as they used to be. We're looking at potentially moving to Whitehaven next year. So I'm getting quite invested in the politics of the area. FYI Martin
I'd think long and hard
As a native born Cumbrian we occasionally used to go over to Seascale just south, in the late 50's and get the sun in the dunes there close to Windscale (Sellafield) always guaranteed a tan there!
LOL. Not for me to defend the area but we've been up and down that coast from Millom to Whitehaven dozens of times now, visiting pretty much all the main beaches (including Seascale). We love it. There's a few ramshackle buildings in Whitehaven meh. We're not looking at living in Whitehaven town centre. Doesn't matter to us. We see past it. Perhaps one of the advantages of always having lived in the suburbs. That section of harbour turned orange/brown about two years back by all accounts. They reckon it's iron residue as the area has a lot of iron mining heritage and there's a runoff into that part of the harbour. Certainly doesn't "smell" bad. They're looking into ways of resolving it. Again, shrug. Doesn't put me off. It's a really nice harbour area. Be nicer when that's sorted granted. That coastline though's a million times nicer than Greater Manchester. They can keep calling it turdtown if it helps keep the house prices down
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Post by hedleyverity on Aug 14, 2024 11:50:44 GMT
You can find pretty much every town in Britain on a ‘shit towns’ video or list I reckon, get clicks don’t it.
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Post by Stranded Hatter on Aug 14, 2024 12:04:47 GMT
Just one name does it for me. Timothy Evans. Yes does it for me too. With DNA profiling today it should be almost impossible to convict the wrong person though. It’s really not though. People are wrongfully convicted all the time, including with DNA evidence. It’s worse in the US, where there are instances of DNA evidence being presented to juries in a manner which is more conclusive than it actually should be. A country which still has the death penalty (and still has these awful things that happen). The death penalty isn’t a deterrent, it doesn’t make things better for victims or their families, it’s just state sanctioned murder. Rotting in prison for the rest of their natural lives could even be considered a harsher punishment in some regards
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Post by bigmartin on Aug 14, 2024 12:14:01 GMT
You can find pretty much every town in Britain on a ‘shit towns’ video or list I reckon, get clicks don’t it. Truth. Stockport regularly turns up on them. Then the next week it will seem to turn up on a "best places in the NW" video. Stockport is far from a 'turd town'. But I would say that residents of Stockport see it through heavily rose-tinted glasses (speaking as a neutral - ie. not someone who has ever lived there but someone who loves the place). I couldn't possibly imagine somewhere like Whitehaven, or even Workington, Maryport, places like that would turn up on a 'shit town' thread. They just really aren't. It's ridiculous. Especially when you can get a 5 minute train ride to somewhere like St Bees which is as pleasant as any town I've literally ever visited. The only place up there that I thought was unpleasant was Carlisle. I've not yet stopped in Barrow to have a stroll around but I know it's pretty rought. But then Askam a couple of miles away (and Ulverston the other way) are absolutely wonderful places. And that entire area up the Duddon Estuary, Askam, Kirkby, Foxfield, Lady Hall, is absolutely stunning.
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Post by bigmartin on Aug 14, 2024 12:16:04 GMT
What an excellent interview. Well worth watching and considering, irrespective of whether you are far right, far left or just like me straight down the middle
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Post by Imposter on Aug 14, 2024 12:24:06 GMT
You can find pretty much every town in Britain on a ‘shit towns’ video or list I reckon, get clicks don’t it. Truth. Stockport regularly turns up on them. Then the next week it will seem to turn up on a "best places in the NW" video. Stockport is far from a 'turd town'. But I would say that residents of Stockport see it through heavily rose-tinted glasses (speaking as a neutral - ie. not someone who has ever lived there but someone who loves the place). I couldn't possibly imagine somewhere like Whitehaven, or even Workington, Maryport, places like that would turn up on a 'shit town' thread. They just really aren't. It's ridiculous. Especially when you can get a 5 minute train ride to somewhere like St Bees which is as pleasant as any town I've literally ever visited. The only place up there that I thought was unpleasant was Carlisle. I've not yet stopped in Barrow to have a stroll around but I know it's pretty rought. But then Askam a couple of miles away (and Ulverston the other way) are absolutely wonderful places. And that entire area up the Duddon Estuary, Askam, Kirkby, Foxfield, Lady Hall, is absolutely stunning. I'm not sure residents of Stockport do see it through rose-tinted spectacles. There are plenty who are happy to disassociate from the town, either to pretend they are just a part of Cheshire and not a part of Stockport in Cheshire, or to pretend they are part of Manchester. Also I don't think civic pride is that high generally. Meet someone from Bolton, Oldham, Burnley, Sunderland, etc... and they'll happily tell you where they come from. Meet someone from Stockport and half the time they murmur something about being from Cheshire, or chunter on about being from Manchester. I will say that County fans do tend to be the more positive and rose-tinted, and have/show that bit more civic pride. Maybe that has affected your perspective?
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Post by hedleyverity on Aug 14, 2024 12:28:30 GMT
You can find pretty much every town in Britain on a ‘shit towns’ video or list I reckon, get clicks don’t it. Truth. Stockport regularly turns up on them. Then the next week it will seem to turn up on a "best places in the NW" video. Stockport is far from a 'turd town'. But I would say that residents of Stockport see it through heavily rose-tinted glasses (speaking as a neutral - ie. not someone who has ever lived there but someone who loves the place). I couldn't possibly imagine somewhere like Whitehaven, or even Workington, Maryport, places like that would turn up on a 'shit town' thread. They just really aren't. It's ridiculous. Especially when you can get a 5 minute train ride to somewhere like St Bees which is as pleasant as any town I've literally ever visited. The only place up there that I thought was unpleasant was Carlisle. I've not yet stopped in Barrow to have a stroll around but I know it's pretty rought. But then Askam a couple of miles away (and Ulverston the other way) are absolutely wonderful places. And that entire area up the Duddon Estuary, Askam, Kirkby, Foxfield, Lady Hall, is absolutely stunning. I really liked Carlisle when I lived up that way, just shows
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Post by bigmartin on Aug 14, 2024 12:32:09 GMT
Truth. Stockport regularly turns up on them. Then the next week it will seem to turn up on a "best places in the NW" video. Stockport is far from a 'turd town'. But I would say that residents of Stockport see it through heavily rose-tinted glasses (speaking as a neutral - ie. not someone who has ever lived there but someone who loves the place). I couldn't possibly imagine somewhere like Whitehaven, or even Workington, Maryport, places like that would turn up on a 'shit town' thread. They just really aren't. It's ridiculous. Especially when you can get a 5 minute train ride to somewhere like St Bees which is as pleasant as any town I've literally ever visited. The only place up there that I thought was unpleasant was Carlisle. I've not yet stopped in Barrow to have a stroll around but I know it's pretty rought. But then Askam a couple of miles away (and Ulverston the other way) are absolutely wonderful places. And that entire area up the Duddon Estuary, Askam, Kirkby, Foxfield, Lady Hall, is absolutely stunning. I really liked Carlisle when I lived up that way, just shows Absolutely. Caveat, we only walked around the railway station area so not fair to judge. Didn't like the pubs we went in though.
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Post by bigmartin on Aug 14, 2024 12:32:57 GMT
Truth. Stockport regularly turns up on them. Then the next week it will seem to turn up on a "best places in the NW" video. Stockport is far from a 'turd town'. But I would say that residents of Stockport see it through heavily rose-tinted glasses (speaking as a neutral - ie. not someone who has ever lived there but someone who loves the place). I couldn't possibly imagine somewhere like Whitehaven, or even Workington, Maryport, places like that would turn up on a 'shit town' thread. They just really aren't. It's ridiculous. Especially when you can get a 5 minute train ride to somewhere like St Bees which is as pleasant as any town I've literally ever visited. The only place up there that I thought was unpleasant was Carlisle. I've not yet stopped in Barrow to have a stroll around but I know it's pretty rought. But then Askam a couple of miles away (and Ulverston the other way) are absolutely wonderful places. And that entire area up the Duddon Estuary, Askam, Kirkby, Foxfield, Lady Hall, is absolutely stunning. I will say that County fans do tend to be the more positive and rose-tinted, and have/show that bit more civic pride. Maybe that has affected your perspective? I think so.
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Post by hedleyverity on Aug 14, 2024 12:41:15 GMT
I really liked Carlisle when I lived up that way, just shows Absolutely. Caveat, we only walked around the railway station area so not fair to judge. Didn't like the pubs we went in though. Yes, they’re more jugs of blue wkd than a quality pint around there, they close the main road there on Friday and Saturday nights to stop pissed idiots getting run over. Other than that…..
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Post by bigmartin on Aug 14, 2024 12:57:17 GMT
Absolutely. Caveat, we only walked around the railway station area so not fair to judge. Didn't like the pubs we went in though. Yes, they’re more jugs of blue wkd than a quality pint around there, they close the main road there on Friday and Saturday nights to stop pissed idiots getting run over. Other than that….. There's a 'tell' on what a pub is like I've discovered. A lot in that area had real ale pumps, but no real ale on them. A dead giveaway... A decent pub will always have a/multiple real ale options. It's just basic 'heritage' for me. If there aren't any it implies no-one drinks it in there. And if there are no real ale drinkers in a pub it isn't really a pub I want to be in.
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Post by Mozzer on Aug 14, 2024 13:02:41 GMT
Tice. Another grifter who routinely talks shite on social media. I won't be wasting my time listening to him to con people with whiney bullshit designed to misinform. I will, however, enjoy watching the Rightists now switch to 'free speech' as their complaint now that their use of free speech has been shown to incite racist violence. Never their fault. Like Brexit.
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