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Post by herbiedumplings on Sept 22, 2024 20:43:32 GMT
I like going into the office, but that’s because I like my colleagues. A lot, in some cases. Maybe employers like Martin’s should think about attracting their employees back into the office rather than trying to drag them back in. They can start by making the office a place where people want to work You’ll have to speak up. I can’t hear over the sound of Frederick Taylor spinning in his grave.
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Post by suedehead on Sept 22, 2024 20:52:31 GMT
I’m lucky that my office is one of the best you could wish to work in. Loads of state of the art tech goodies, big collab spaces, dead informal, free drinks/fruit/snacks all day, Sky Sports running tellys, a heavily subsidised restaurant which means a fresh really good quality meal will cost you £3-£4, a proper coffee shop on site etc. Free beer on tap on Thursdays from 4pm. Literally on tap, just grab a pint glass and help yourself, really good keg stuff from local breweries.
Yet it’s still dead on Monday and Friday. Like empty. They’ve sold off three of the five floors and the remaining two probably have 30-40 people in a space for 300. Tuesday/Wednesday is a bit better but still quiet, Thursdays are when everyone goes in. But also little gets done. It’s good to have face to face catch ups and there’s some workshops/all hands kind of things that are decent but generally it’s not a day for getting your head down and working, that comes at home.
It’s over in Leeds so I tend to only go once a week, sometimes twice but very very rarely more than that.
They mooted trying to get us back in twice a week as a mandatory thing but they hired so many people during Covid who aren’t local (including me) it’s practically impossible to expect people to travel in. If it was enforced, they’d just leave and work elsewhere. The power is in the hands of the employees at a lot of places now and companies know it, especially in tech jobs (which is where I am).
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Post by Count de Stockport on Sept 22, 2024 20:54:39 GMT
I like going into the office, but that’s because I like my colleagues. A lot, in some cases. Maybe employers like Martin’s should think about attracting their employees back into the office rather than trying to drag them back in. They can start by making the office a place where people want to work You’ll have to speak up. I can’t hear over the sound of Frederick Taylor spinning in his grave. Hook him up to a dynamo and I’ll keep posting. Let’s see how many pensioners we can keep from freezing
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Post by runtothehills on Sept 22, 2024 21:04:16 GMT
I’m lucky that my office is one of the best you could wish to work in. Loads of state of the art tech goodies, big collab spaces, dead informal, free drinks/fruit/snacks all day, Sky Sports running tellys, a heavily subsidised restaurant which means a fresh really good quality meal will cost you £3-£4, a proper coffee shop on site etc. Free beer on tap on Thursdays from 4pm. Literally on tap, just grab a pint glass and help yourself, really good keg stuff from local breweries. Yet it’s still dead on Monday and Friday. Like empty. They’ve sold off three of the five floors and the remaining two probably have 30-40 people in a space for 300. Tuesday/Wednesday is a bit better but still quiet, Thursdays are when everyone goes in. But also little gets done. It’s good to have face to face catch ups and there’s some workshops/all hands kind of things that are decent but generally it’s not a day for getting your head down and working, that comes at home. It’s over in Leeds so I tend to only go once a week, sometimes twice but very very rarely more than that. They mooted trying to get us back in twice a week as a mandatory thing but they hired so many people during Covid who aren’t local (including me) it’s practically impossible to expect people to travel in. If it was enforced, they’d just leave and work elsewhere. The power is in the hands of the employees at a lot of places now and companies know it, especially in tech jobs (which is where I am). I always go into mine on a Monday, it starts the week off well for me, I'll do a Tuesday too and sometimes a Friday but it's not what I'd call enjoyable, being part of an in-house design team we're kind of ignored or looked down upon by lots of the teams which can make it a bit weird, plus our hours are usually a bit longer due to deadlines and working from home makes that a bit more palatable as you can shut your machine down and you're done. The landscape has altered dramatically since covid and making it mandatory to go in just doesn't work for people neither does having your office days dictated by the company. If my place forced it back on us id just go back to being a freelancer and keep the flexibility.
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Post by vicar on Sept 22, 2024 21:08:47 GMT
It says that she "joked" about being happy with a six day week.
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Post by suedehead on Sept 22, 2024 21:10:36 GMT
I’m lucky that my office is one of the best you could wish to work in. Loads of state of the art tech goodies, big collab spaces, dead informal, free drinks/fruit/snacks all day, Sky Sports running tellys, a heavily subsidised restaurant which means a fresh really good quality meal will cost you £3-£4, a proper coffee shop on site etc. Free beer on tap on Thursdays from 4pm. Literally on tap, just grab a pint glass and help yourself, really good keg stuff from local breweries. Yet it’s still dead on Monday and Friday. Like empty. They’ve sold off three of the five floors and the remaining two probably have 30-40 people in a space for 300. Tuesday/Wednesday is a bit better but still quiet, Thursdays are when everyone goes in. But also little gets done. It’s good to have face to face catch ups and there’s some workshops/all hands kind of things that are decent but generally it’s not a day for getting your head down and working, that comes at home. It’s over in Leeds so I tend to only go once a week, sometimes twice but very very rarely more than that. They mooted trying to get us back in twice a week as a mandatory thing but they hired so many people during Covid who aren’t local (including me) it’s practically impossible to expect people to travel in. If it was enforced, they’d just leave and work elsewhere. The power is in the hands of the employees at a lot of places now and companies know it, especially in tech jobs (which is where I am). I always go into mine on a Monday, it starts the week off well for me, I'll do a Tuesday too and sometimes a Friday but it's not what I'd call enjoyable, being part of an in-house design team we're kind of ignored or looked down upon by lots of the teams which can make it a bit weird, plus our hours are usually a bit longer due to deadlines and working from home makes that a bit more palatable as you can shut your machine down and you're done. The landscape has altered dramatically since covid and making it mandatory to go in just doesn't work for people neither does having your office days dictated by the company. If my place forced it back on us id just go back to being a freelancer and keep the flexibility. If our office was in Manchester I’d probably go in more than once a week, but the time/expense of travelling to Leeds just isn’t worthwhile. I’m not against the office per se, but there has ti be value to going in. Just going in because we’re told to is bullshit and isn’t going to happen. If I was looking for a new gig and they said 4-5 days a week in the office I’d tell them to swivel.
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Post by herbiedumplings on Sept 22, 2024 21:24:40 GMT
It says that she "joked" about being happy with a six day week. ”Speaking about working at the Treasury over the weekend when she first became Chancellor, she said ‘We weren’t doing it on Zoom. We were working on the table in my office… producing really excellent work.’” No, you really weren’t; you’ve basically drowned your government at birth.
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Post by Stranded Hatter on Sept 22, 2024 21:46:18 GMT
The way people want to work has changed significantly and companies need to adapt to that, if they want the best people. I don't like working from home personally, but do if I need to and the flexibility is welcome. I think having people in the office is good to help new starters and for interaction with colleagues, as HTC has mentioned, but I think the working practices of being in the office every day are long gone. People don't want the unproductive / wasted time of travelling into the office and back every day, the cost, being stuck in traffic, etc. Managers talk about “water cooler moments” without realising their predecessors took out all the water coolers after the 2008 financial crisis in an attempt to cut back on overheads. I’m fairly sure water coolers used to be blamed for distracting people as well.
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Post by Stranded Hatter on Sept 22, 2024 21:52:50 GMT
It says that she "joked" about being happy with a six day week. ”Speaking about working at the Treasury over the weekend when she first became Chancellor, she said ‘We weren’t doing it on Zoom. We were working on the table in my office… producing really excellent work.’ No, you really weren’t; you’ve basically drowned your government at birth. She walks in on the first day A group of civil servants: “here’s this plan to reduce the winter fuel allowance, that was rejected by several Conservative chancellors and is deeply unpopular across the political spectrum”. RR: “you son of a bitch I’m in! Let’s even work over the weekend on it so I can set a good example to all the plebs”.
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