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Post by bigmartin on Aug 29, 2024 17:13:10 GMT
I can see enough to find the full stop on my keyboard. Anyway, haven't you got to flip a few more burgers before your shift ends? Why do you keep talking about flipping burgers? Is it meant to be a put down or something? His mask slips occasionally... Doesn't believe taxes are for him, believes all his assets should be passed down untaxed to his dependents, has extreme views on immigration (including using force against asylum seekers), occasionally uses racist tropes and terms, and demeans people with menial jobs in society. Other than all this he's "straight down the middle politically"...
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Post by bigmartin on Aug 29, 2024 17:22:53 GMT
I'm not asking them to do this in a few weeks, what I'm asking is they outline their plan and vision for the country. Labour talked about creating safe and legal routes before the election, but now there is absolutely no mention of it, even as an objective. They clearly want to pin the blame for the £22 billion black hole on the Tories and provide cover for what will be a harsh budget in October and I totally get that, but the approach Starmer is taking is so negative and depressing. It won't work much longer, people voted for Change, we want hope, but all we are getting is more of the same and people will become sick of it very quickly. Tony Blair and New Labour outlined a very optimistic outlook for the country and set about delivering. We saw a very ambitious programme in the first 100 days. It would be good to see some positivity from Starmer. Spot on Red Hatter. Unlike some people in the UK who want to see Starmer and the country fail, there are tens of thousands of middle of the road punters even wild extreme right wing Conservatives (LOL) who want to see the country prosper irrespective of which political party is in power. Somebody said on the radio the other day that Starmers speech was the most downbeat one since the announcement that we were going to war back in the 1940's You're missing a number of commas in your first paragraph (which aid understanding) and an apostrophe on "Starmers". And we declared war on the 3rd September 1939, not "the 1940s". C-
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Post by scfc29 on Aug 29, 2024 17:38:43 GMT
The smoking ban just seems a total unnecessary waste of time and resource whilst also being a major PR own goal.
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Post by Imposter on Aug 29, 2024 17:49:15 GMT
For the record: I work in a patent office I thought that was patently obvious
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Post by Mozzer on Aug 29, 2024 17:56:07 GMT
For the record: I work in a patent office I thought that was patently obvious I was going to say that and now I can't.
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Post by hedleyverity on Aug 29, 2024 17:56:59 GMT
The smoking ban just seems a total unnecessary waste of time and resource whilst also being a major PR own goal. Will it include e cigarettes?
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Post by Imposter on Aug 29, 2024 17:57:32 GMT
The smoking ban just seems a total unnecessary waste of time and resource whilst also being a major PR own goal. Will it include e cigarettes? Only in Yorkshire.
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Post by bigmartin on Aug 29, 2024 18:09:38 GMT
The smoking ban just seems a total unnecessary waste of time and resource whilst also being a major PR own goal. There were commitments regards the general health of the public specifically pertaining to cigarettes in their manifesto (although I think this does go in a slightly different direction if I recall correctly from the manifesto broad details). Of course the NHS is in dire trouble. They have to do SOME stuff to try to help, holistically, address the issues with the NHS and I guess this is the start of that. They can't just cross their fingers and hope for a fair wind to sort things out for them. Course, I see the Tories have objected to it, a few weeks after their manifesto committed to making smoking completely illegal.
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Post by hedleyverity on Aug 29, 2024 18:12:54 GMT
The smoking ban just seems a total unnecessary waste of time and resource whilst also being a major PR own goal. There were commitments regards the general health of the public specifically pertaining to cigarettes in their manifesto (although I think this does go in a slightly different direction if I recall correctly from the manifesto broad details). Of course the NHS is in dire trouble. They have to do SOME stuff to try to help, holistically, address the issues with the NHS and I guess this is the start of that. They can't just cross their fingers and hope for a fair wind to sort things out for them. Course, I see the Tories have objected to it, a few weeks after their manifesto committed to making smoking completely illegal. Aren't Labour also pledged to go with the silly age rising cigs ban?
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Post by Stranded Hatter on Aug 29, 2024 18:13:19 GMT
Rishi wrote all that off, didn’t he? Tories, giving to their friends with one hand, and letting them keep it with the other… Isn't legal eagle Starmer the one to go after them? I'm surprised that he's not done that already. Today the news from Starmer is that there is a clamp down on smoking, and elsewhere potentially drinking limits at airports (2 drinks max). I don't smoke so not too bothered about that but I know others who do. It looks like we are heading for a North Korean style of management from number 10 I didn’t know Starmer ran Ryanair www.bbc.com/news/articles/cgl28npy7e2o.amp
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Post by bigmartin on Aug 29, 2024 18:17:00 GMT
There were commitments regards the general health of the public specifically pertaining to cigarettes in their manifesto (although I think this does go in a slightly different direction if I recall correctly from the manifesto broad details). Of course the NHS is in dire trouble. They have to do SOME stuff to try to help, holistically, address the issues with the NHS and I guess this is the start of that. They can't just cross their fingers and hope for a fair wind to sort things out for them. Course, I see the Tories have objected to it, a few weeks after their manifesto committed to making smoking completely illegal. Aren't Labour also pledged to go with the silly age rising cigs ban? In their manifesto I believe yes. I don't know if this departs from that or sits in alongside it. I haven't read the finer detail yet. But like I intimated I would not accept them saying "cigarettes are bad and the NHS is in dire straits" and then doing nowt about fags and not doing everything in their power to work towards sorting the NHS out. What am I trying to say? I guess...I'd rather they did MORE about stuff that directly impacts healthcare in an extremely negative way than less. And yes it will irritate some smokers. Frankly I don't give a f*ck, they've irritated me for my entire life.
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Post by herbiedumplings on Aug 29, 2024 18:21:37 GMT
Isn't legal eagle Starmer the one to go after them? I'm surprised that he's not done that already. Today the news from Starmer is that there is a clamp down on smoking, and elsewhere potentially drinking limits at airports (2 drinks max). I don't smoke so not too bothered about that but I know others who do. It looks like we are heading for a North Korean style of management from number 10 I didn’t know Starmer ran Ryanair www.bbc.com/news/articles/cgl28npy7e2o.ampHe’s already starting seizing private businesses in the name of the State.
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Post by hedleyverity on Aug 29, 2024 18:28:37 GMT
He’s already starting seizing private businesses in the name of the State. No business will want to operate in ths UK anyway now they now the commies have seized the patent office
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Post by suedehead on Aug 29, 2024 18:38:03 GMT
Aren't Labour also pledged to go with the silly age rising cigs ban? In their manifesto I believe yes. I don't know if this departs from that or sits in alongside it. I haven't read the finer detail yet. But like I intimated I would not accept them saying "cigarettes are bad and the NHS is in dire straits" and then doing nowt about fags and not doing everything in their power to work towards sorting the NHS out. What am I trying to say? I guess...I'd rather they did MORE about stuff that directly impacts healthcare in an extremely negative way than less. And yes it will irritate some smokers. Frankly I don't give a f*ck, they've irritated me for my entire life. Imagine the state that whopper brinksway boy is in over all this?
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Post by Count de Stockport on Aug 29, 2024 18:41:29 GMT
He’s already starting seizing private businesses in the name of the State. No business will want to operate in ths UK anyway now they now the commies have seized the patent office Hey, I only got this job so I could patent ‘communism’ I’m absolutely raking it in with all these copyright claims
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