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Post by bigmartin on Aug 30, 2024 7:53:59 GMT
I see the LNER strikes have been called off because management were forced to negotiate and between the union and management they've managed to agree a way forward. Well at least we might see the end of these strikes that affect many. Common sense or labour falling over to their union paymasters. Possibly it depends on which side of politics you are on. For me quicker strikes are over the better it is for all concerned even if i think the pay rises are excessive. Yup. Falling over to their union paymasters, or falling over to their large corporate paymasters. Hmmm, let me see which one I prefer... Agree with you of course. Course they'll be attacked over it, just like they'll be attacked for engaging with the EU. What are Labour supposed to do here though? Let these strikes just carry on ad-infinitum creating that none-expiring lottery of rail travel?
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Post by hedleyverity on Aug 30, 2024 7:59:32 GMT
Now now ladies................. it looks like the resident left wing clique were out in force last night and threw their collective toys out. No need for personal abuse. You know who you are :-* Just because I'm not a lover of Starmer shouldn't get under your skin. I don't like him or his vision for the future. I don't like what he has done in the past either. Remember, it was a minority of people who voted for him. Of the 60% of people in the UK who got up off their backsides to go and vote, only a third of them voted in favour of Starmer. Those are not my figures they are from Google. Oh and martin, I will probably not be able to respond to direct questions today as I have a few jobs to do (away from my pc), I also want to go for a decent walk to take in some fresh air and end up for a few pints in the pub. I hope that's OK with you. What’s the hierarchy, is being a lady better or worse than being a burger flipper?
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Post by bigmartin on Aug 30, 2024 8:06:34 GMT
Now now ladies................. it looks like the resident left wing clique were out in force last night and threw their collective toys out. No need for personal abuse. You know who you are Just because I'm not a lover of Starmer shouldn't get under your skin. I don't like him or his vision for the future. I don't like what he has done in the past either. Remember, it was a minority of people who voted for him. Of the 60% of people in the UK who got up off their backsides to go and vote, only a third of them voted in favour of Starmer. Those are not my figures they are from Google. Oh and martin, I will probably not be able to respond to direct questions today as I have a few jobs to do (away from my pc), I also want to go for a decent walk to take in some fresh air and end up for a few pints in the pub. I hope that's OK with you. What’s the hierarchy, is being a lady better or worse than being a burger flipper? Is the burger flipper Chinese? But...there's no call for "personal abuse" on here !
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Post by Mozzer on Aug 30, 2024 8:25:42 GMT
I see the LNER strikes have been called off because management were forced to negotiate and between the union and management they've managed to agree a way forward. Well at least we might see the end of these strikes that affect many. Common sense or labour falling over to their union paymasters. Possibly it depends on which side of politics you are on. For me quicker strikes are over the better it is for all concerned even if i think the pay rises are excessive. As previously discussed, that one was nothing to do with pay. And I'm not redoing the pay discussion as I laid out the facts at the time. Suffice to say, taken over the time period to which it relates, it is far from excessive. Great to see 'union paymasters' has re-entered the lexicon in a way that 'Russian paymasters' or 'Billionaire paymasters' never has. 🙄
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Post by canterbury on Aug 30, 2024 8:37:00 GMT
Remember, it was a minority of people who voted for him. The same is true of all Prime Ministers in your lifetime, the last one to win a majority of the popular vote was Stanley Baldwin. The rub is, if we had a more proportional system he would still be the Prime Minister, but with the Green and Lib Dem influence curbing his authoritarian instincts.
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Post by herbiedumplings on Aug 30, 2024 8:37:19 GMT
Well at least we might see the end of these strikes that affect many. Common sense or labour falling over to their union paymasters. Possibly it depends on which side of politics you are on. For me quicker strikes are over the better it is for all concerned even if i think the pay rises are excessive. As previously discussed, that one was nothing to do with pay. And I'm not redoing the pay discussion as I laid out the facts at the time. Suffice to say, taken over the time period to which it relates, it is far from excessive. Great to see 'union paymasters' has re-entered the lexicon in a way that 'Russian paymasters' or 'Billionaire paymasters' never has. 🙄 Interesting in that regard how, despite all the pro-Ukraine noises from the Tories, the Ukrainians only launched their counteroffensive into Russia after the Conservatives lost the election. Now I’m not saying the two things are connected…
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Post by herbiedumplings on Aug 30, 2024 8:39:37 GMT
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Post by Count de Stockport on Aug 30, 2024 8:44:25 GMT
So that's where BRINKSWAY BOY has been
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Post by Mozzer on Aug 30, 2024 11:26:43 GMT
You don't have to agree with the idea, but common sense tells you not to use that quote.
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Post by Nik on Aug 30, 2024 11:33:26 GMT
You don't have to agree with the idea, but common sense tells you not to use that quote. I love this line in her tweet: " I will not be bullied into removing a tweet by people who are deliberately twisting the meaning of my words and finding offence when they know none was intended." Her stupidity is everyone else's fault.
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Post by nelly on Aug 30, 2024 11:41:52 GMT
You don't have to agree with the idea, but common sense tells you not to use that quote. I love this line in her tweet: " I will not be bullied into removing a tweet by people who are deliberately twisting the meaning of my words and finding offence when they know none was intended." Her stupidity is everyone else's fault. This is why we now have a grown up Labour Government.
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Post by Mozzer on Aug 30, 2024 11:42:33 GMT
Imagine if that was a Labour MP refusing to acknowledge the request from the Board of Deputies of British Jews...
Anyone can post something crass, inadvertently. When that's been pointed out, how you react says something more about you. (Although, in fairness, this tells me nothing about McVey of which I wasn't already aware.)
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Post by edjelley on Aug 30, 2024 12:01:14 GMT
I had a weird moment where I considered that TVOR and BB are one and the same. They're very similar in style. Ignorant as shit? Why are you slagging him off as 'ignorant as shit'. Is that the general level of debate when someone comes on here to present alternative views? I actually don't agree with most of what he says but it's good to have differing viewpoints and although he might rile a few on here,it's hardly extreme generally.
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Post by Count de Stockport on Aug 30, 2024 12:07:20 GMT
No need for personal abuse. Cuck
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Post by suedehead on Aug 30, 2024 12:07:33 GMT
Why are you slagging him off as 'ignorant as shit'. Is that the general level of debate when someone comes on here to present alternative views? I actually don't agree with most of what he says but it's good to have differing viewpoints and although he might rile a few on here,it's hardly extreme generally. No, not at all. If you've read the thread you can see there's scores of posts responding and engaging with him but he chooses to ignore them because he's ignorant. Wears it as a badge. It's plain to see from his posts. He ignores anyone who challenges him, constantly posts things that are false and ignores anyone who pulls him up, using fast food jobs as some kind of insult, misogynistic posts... do I need to keep going?
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