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Post by herbiedumplings on Sept 20, 2024 14:38:13 GMT
I tend to find that religionists find something in their religion to support their opinion on a moral matter. So a god said homosexuality is a sin. Also a god said we should love all others and that we are all created equally. So, take your pick to suit your morality. Your god's given you an out whatever you want to believe, which is nice of it/him/her. Did you know that Finns don't have him, her, she and him in their language (you probably did) they just refer to the person and they obviously know who they're talking about, off subject I know but I found it interesting. In all my time dating a Finn*, I never actually found that out. *We only went on two dates. Not sure when the correct time to discuss the idiomatism of personal pronouns is with a new girl/boyfriend, but can confirm it’s neither the first nor the second date. Hope this helps.
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Post by Mozzer on Sept 20, 2024 14:52:36 GMT
I tend to find that religionists find something in their religion to support their opinion on a moral matter. So a god said homosexuality is a sin. Also a god said we should love all others and that we are all created equally. So, take your pick to suit your morality. Your god's given you an out whatever you want to believe, which is nice of it/him/her. Did you know that Finns don't have him, her, she and him in their language (you probably did) they just refer to the person and they obviously know who they're talking about, off subject I know but I found it interesting. I didn't know that, vicar, so I've learned something there. Thank you.
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Post by Mozzer on Sept 20, 2024 14:55:19 GMT
Did you know that Finns don't have him, her, she and him in their language (you probably did) they just refer to the person and they obviously know who they're talking about, off subject I know but I found it interesting. In all my time dating a Finn*, I never actually found that out. *We only went on two dates. Not sure when the correct time to discuss the idiomatism of personal pronouns is with a new girl/boyfriend, but can confirm it’s neither the first nor the second date. Hope this helps. I think you're wrong. You very much *should* do it on the first or second date, or you clearly risk not finding out about Finnish pronouns before you stop dating. You went out with a Finn and know no more about it than I do. Shocking.
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Post by Fez on Sept 20, 2024 15:04:01 GMT
It’s nothing to do with being “fashionable”. But, yes, it is indeed easy to knock a twice-impeached criminal, traitor, grifter, liar, thief, sexual predator, racist, rapist, authoritarian, wannabe dictator, ‘friend of Epstein’, narcissistic sociopath and senile rambling lunatic. That’s simple. The man is totally irredeemable And the characterization of BIden is way off track. “Creepy care home escapee” is nothing more than a daft and cliched insult promulgated by right wing media. He’s quietly done a decent job by many measures and brought normality back to the White House after years of complete craziness. Contrary to what you say, the last four years have been great (and I’m speaking first hand), especially compared to the preceding four. And this idea that he dislikes the UK is just nonsense. Relations have improved during this administration. Whilst not disagreeing the most of your views on Trump I have to say having seen this online, that Harris seems less fit than Biden to govern and I don't include the things she said on the debate which were claimed here to be false
Regarding her ability/record Start at 23 seconds
I didn't know over 200 million died of Covid in the USA!!!!!!, Said twice at different events.
I don't envy anyone having to make a choice of these 2 candidates. She kind of reminds me of Starmer- say anything to get elected.
It’s odd how people come across right-wing opinion pieces in obscure local US newspapers. Anyway, I won’t go through all of these weaselly points but a few things immediately stand out: What Harris said about her familial background absolutely makes her middle class. Many people might have benefited from tax cuts but it’s true that the uber rich benefited *disproportionately*. Raising tariffs on imported goods puts the burden of higher costs on to the consumer: thus, a de facto sales tax. Trump won’t implement Project 2025 because Trump says so? He won’t curb abortion nationally because he’s all “trust me bro?” Oh well, that’s ok then; I’ll totally believe that pathological liar’s word. Come on. That’s totally disingenuous by the op-ed writer, and very naïve if you believe it. --- You don’t envy anyone making a choice between these two candidates? There is a chasm between them. The choice could not be more straightforward, and it staggers me when people cannot see that. I’ll very happily put my tick next to the (D) this November. And I don’t know where you got 200 million Covid deaths from. That would be nearly 2/3 of the US population. The actual number is about 1.2 million.
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Post by stalybridgehatter on Sept 20, 2024 15:07:18 GMT
I tend to find that religionists find something in their religion to support their opinion on a moral matter. So a god said homosexuality is a sin. Also a god said we should love all others and that we are all created equally. So, take your pick to suit your morality. Your god's given you an out whatever you want to believe, which is nice of it/him/her. Did you know that Finns don't have him, her, she and him in their language (you probably did) they just refer to the person and they obviously know who they're talking about, off subject I know but I found it interesting. I wish German was that easy!
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Post by bigmartin on Sept 20, 2024 15:09:22 GMT
I tend to find that religionists find something in their religion to support their opinion on a moral matter. So a god said homosexuality is a sin. Also a god said we should love all others and that we are all created equally. So, take your pick to suit your morality. Your god's given you an out whatever you want to believe, which is nice of it/him/her. Right and wrong I'd say. There are plenty who operate in the manner you state. But also plenty who's belief systems are very complex. I know I grew up knowing a gentleman (the Vicar of Mottram, who became the Canon of Nantwich - my best friend at school's dad) who was not remotely like the picture you paint. In fact he very rarely shared ANY religious views for example, including when he married me (first time around) all the time knowing that I was very outspokenly AGAINST the religion he was marrying me in the church of (because I was an opinionated teenager who never shirked at telling him). He was complex in a very good way. You could also look towards people like Richard Coles for other, good, examples.
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Post by nelly on Sept 20, 2024 15:11:14 GMT
Not many natural blondes about anyway and don't think Margot Robbie is a natural blonde. Nothing worse back in the day when you thought you'd pulled a blonde in a nightclub and then getting down below latter to find a ginger abyss. 🤣 What’s wrong with redheads?! Edit: other than the whole lack of souls thing Too firey.
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Post by nelly on Sept 20, 2024 15:14:50 GMT
Did you know that Finns don't have him, her, she and him in their language (you probably did) they just refer to the person and they obviously know who they're talking about, off subject I know but I found it interesting. I wish German was that easy! Nine.
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Post by Mozzer on Sept 20, 2024 15:59:47 GMT
I tend to find that religionists find something in their religion to support their opinion on a moral matter. So a god said homosexuality is a sin. Also a god said we should love all others and that we are all created equally. So, take your pick to suit your morality. Your god's given you an out whatever you want to believe, which is nice of it/him/her. Right and wrong I'd say. There are plenty who operate in the manner you state. But also plenty who's belief systems are very complex. I know I grew up knowing a gentleman (the Vicar of Mottram, who became the Canon of Nantwich - my best friend at school's dad) who was not remotely like the picture you paint. In fact he very rarely shared ANY religious views for example, including when he married me (first time around) all the time knowing that I was very outspokenly AGAINST the religion he was marrying me in the church of (because I was an opinionated teenager who never shirked at telling him). He was complex in a very good way. You could also look towards people like Richard Coles for other, good, examples. I'm not saying they necessarily force their views on people (I am from a family with two religious ministers through marriage - CofE/Methodist - and neither have ever been like that). I've got very strong views about theocratic influence in political systems. But that's different and in the more general sense, religious people do not have to be overt about it any more than agnostics or atheists have to be about their respective positions. I'm just saying that those who do believe are generally able to find something in their religion to justify their moral position. Frankly they can argue that stuff out between themselves, like the CofE seems to be doing persistently, because it's of no concern to me who is the true defender of their faith. But that's really the point - two people can believe in the same god and the same doctrine but they can find their god telling them different things about the same subject. Do people have a particular moral view because of their religion or do they believe in the religion because they can find something in it that supports their view? Probably a bit of both for a lot of people. I just can't be having it where people say their god has a particular viewpoint and therefore it's right on that basis. If I can look at your book and find two different interpretations of the same topic, your god doesn't define it at all. You are choosing one way of looking at it, which you are absolutely entitled to do, but it's nothing special. Certainly no more special than anyone else's way of looking at it who has no religious belief. Lots of people who believe in a god get that, I think. It's the religionists who don't who I have the issue with.
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Post by desmond on Sept 20, 2024 16:13:57 GMT
I tend to find that religionists find something in their religion to support their opinion on a moral matter. So a god said homosexuality is a sin. Also a god said we should love all others and that we are all created equally. So, take your pick to suit your morality. Your god's given you an out whatever you want to believe, which is nice of it/him/her. Right and wrong I'd say. There are plenty who operate in the manner you state. But also plenty whose belief systems are very complex. I know I grew up knowing a gentleman (the Vicar of Mottram, who became the Canon of Nantwich - my best friend at school's dad) who was not remotely like the picture you paint. In fact he very rarely shared ANY religious views for example, including when he married me (first time around) all the time knowing that I was very outspokenly AGAINST the religion he was marrying me in the church of (because I was an opinionated teenager who never shirked at telling him). He was complex in a very good way. You could also look towards people like Richard Coles for other, good, examples. You married a vicar twice ? 😀
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Post by vicar on Sept 20, 2024 16:15:13 GMT
Did you know that Finns don't have him, her, she and him in their language (you probably did) they just refer to the person and they obviously know who they're talking about, off subject I know but I found it interesting. In all my time dating a Finn*, I never actually found that out. *We only went on two dates. Not sure when the correct time to discuss the idiomatism of personal pronouns is with a new girl/boyfriend, but can confirm it’s neither the first nor the second date. Hope this helps. You must have had some very short relationships if after 2 dates you say "in all my time dating a Finn" were you with this Finnish person long enough to have learned the Finnish word for watching TV in your underpants? It's something I picked up on here.
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Post by vicar on Sept 20, 2024 16:20:18 GMT
Did you know that Finns don't have him, her, she and him in their language (you probably did) they just refer to the person and they obviously know who they're talking about, off subject I know but I found it interesting. I wish German was that easy! I think German is much easier than Finnish, I actually know a Finn who doesn't speak Finnish, in his part of Finland most people speak Swedish, he was speaking to my Finnish mate in English and I said don't speak English because of me but he said they always speak in English as his Finnish is so bad.
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