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Post by hedleyverity on Sept 2, 2024 11:24:28 GMT
Sweeping generalisations and all that, but, I’m 50, I reckon my parents generation had it the best (and they’d agree), and my generation had it better than the young ones these days.
We’re all better off than the generations above my parents though who had life much tougher generally, and 2 world wars.
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Post by Mozzer on Sept 2, 2024 11:38:59 GMT
And a World Cup, don't forget.
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Post by nelly on Sept 2, 2024 11:49:30 GMT
Sweeping generalisations and all that, but, I’m 50, I reckon my parents generation had it the best (and they’d agree), and my generation had it better than the young ones these days. We’re all better off than the generations above my parents though who had life much tougher generally, and 2 world wars. But everyone was white and you could leave your front door unlocked. Reform UK paradise.
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Post by mattyovrio on Sept 2, 2024 11:51:32 GMT
You mean the same people who were in middle age voted the tories out to give the county its longest period of a labour government no matter what people think of. How many others as well were conned by brexit even if its true about the percentages who voted for it. Do not think there has ever been a generation disliked by others as much as the boomers are when most just went out and lived there lives to their best for themselves and their families with little thought about the legacy they have left. A generation cannot be cast aside just because more by luck than management they were born at a certain time in history. At least we were allowed to think and encouraged to do so unlike our predecessors who were more happier to doff their caps at their so called betters and followed religeon without any thought of the subject at all. As a kid it wasn,t easy for me finding a fellow atheist or a republican unlike it is today and anyone who did not follow a so called sexual norm had a life of lies which was no fault of their own. As I noted, I am not playing the 'blame the boomers' card. I am saying they are not blameless, collectively. It does no-one any good to pretend they're entirely to blame nor to pretend they've not got a part to play, alongside others. Incidentally, I think the teenager/young adult generation of most parts of the modern era are the ones who are most routinely attacked. The odd thing is that once many of those teenagers get to middle/older age they forget they were the ones under attack and take it out on the contemporary teenage generation. It depresses me. Especially when it comes from people who make little to no attempt to understand what life is like for the young adults of the day. Things like 'stop eating avocado on toast and save for a deposit' boil my piss. And I'm 50-f*cking-2... You young whippersnapper you. Grim ro see the older generation tut tutting at the young uns but ‘‘twas ever thus. Economic growth allowed some of the benefits to be shared post war without those at the top missing out on vastly increasing their wealth. The concentration of wealth at the top and increasing poverty at the bottom since the 80s can be pinned on the kleptocracy we live in. The forelock tuggers and happy clappers bizarrely support the continued daylight robbery while happily witnessing child poverty at unacceptable levels in what is still a rich country. The older generations vote most heavily for the party that delivers all this.not all, but as a group, yes they do.
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Post by herbiedumplings on Sept 2, 2024 11:56:34 GMT
And a World Cup, don't forget. Doo-dah doo-dah
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Post by HTC on Sept 2, 2024 11:57:03 GMT
Sweeping generalisations and all that, but, I’m 50, I reckon my parents generation had it the best (and they’d agree), and my generation had it better than the young ones these days. We’re all better off than the generations above my parents though who had life much tougher generally, and 2 world wars.
Very much speaking as a white male there.
I'd certainly agree that straight white men were almost certainly best off if born between 1935 - 1965, doubly so if working class
not convinced that's true of white women, where I'd say the sweet spot was probably our generation, loosely births from 1960 - 1990 or so.
I'd say much the same for gay men / people from ethnic minority backgrounds, albeit maybe 10 years later.
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Post by malc on Sept 2, 2024 12:56:01 GMT
The perception was that punk exploded because the country was going to Hell in a handcart. But was it? Sure there were problems but when I left school in 1977 there was still 100's of good apprenticeships with good reliable, established companies especially in the engineering sector in Stockport. Companies like Simon Carves, Mirlees Blackstone, Avro's, Faireys, Craven's and many many more companies who were suppliers to these bigger companies. The fact that not a single one of these companies exist today can be laid firmly at the door of the Wicked Witch of Grantham. She decimated Britain's engineering - and mining - heritage with her zeal to curb the unions. GB Ltd is still paying for that to this day and will continue to do so for years to come.
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Post by bigmartin on Sept 2, 2024 15:08:57 GMT
I totally agree with your comment on the State Pension. But it's not free money (as I know, that you know) and it has to be paid for. And when you have political parties who's modus operandi is to campaign on low taxation, supported into Government by demographics who dogmatically vote for "Governments of low taxation" then there's always going to be a reckoning at some point farther down the line. And here we are... Except that tax rates are at their post war highest and we still have crumbling national infrastructure and declining standards of public services. Maybe a look at what has happened in the water industry is informative. Billions filched out in dividends, fat cat salaries and bonuses for those at the top of the shop and shit dumped into our rivers and seas. It isn’t hard to join up the dots. For a good example as to the general attitude of the UK to going after these industries, and the rich, I recommend a short sojourn onto Social Media where the very suggestion of this means that Starmer is the 2024 version of Stalin. It's all tied together. But the one fundamental, British people have an issue with taxes. It all comes back to that. There's not even a discourse or debate allowed on the subject. If you even moot the idea that we don't pay enough tax as a society then you're branded the evil incarnate. And, because of all that, over myriad years, this is where we're at. Stuff has to go.
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Post by bigmartin on Sept 2, 2024 15:14:54 GMT
The fact that not a single one of these companies exist today can be laid firmly at the door of the Wicked Witch of Grantham. She decimated Britain's engineering - and mining - heritage with her zeal to curb the unions. GB Ltd is still paying for that to this day and will continue to do so for years to come. And vast swathes of the British population cheered her on as she did it. Because her doing it hurt people they don't like. And it's gone on, gained velocity. And here we are in our post-Brexit, happy and united wonderland where people say "hey, why can't we have good stuff like Finland, and Germany, and bloody wherever, even if they've paid peanuts in taxes (because their friends never asked them to pay more) to fund it, and that Government pilfered and mismanaged what little was paid in. I've said it a couple of times. It's multiple generations of chickens coming home to roost. Labour might try to address things a bit but they're wasting their time, as the Tories will be back in next time to finish breaking it. And the British people will deserve it.
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Post by bigmartin on Sept 2, 2024 15:19:45 GMT
Sweeping generalisations and all that, but, I’m 50, I reckon my parents generation had it the best (and they’d agree), and my generation had it better than the young ones these days. We’re all better off than the generations above my parents though who had life much tougher generally, and 2 world wars. After those two wars, Government in this country was almost shamed into treating the people who fought them with a little more respect. But that's largely dissipated. You only need take a forensic look into how modern veterans in this country, especially those with complex struggles, are dealt with by the British Government and listen to people's broad attitudes to homeless people (with many veterans in those ranks) to see evidence of that.
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Post by tvor on Sept 2, 2024 15:24:17 GMT
Why are you slagging him off as 'ignorant as shit'. Is that the general level of debate when someone comes on here to present alternative views? I actually don't agree with most of what he says but it's good to have differing viewpoints and although he might rile a few on here,it's hardly extreme generally. Thank you edjelley, I was waiting for an apology from the poster but sadly nothing arrived from him. It's clear that whilst we have two tier Kier applying different rules and regulations for some people in the UK he's not applying all those new rules and regulations evenly. We clearly have two tier rules in play here on yellowboard. With the clique seemingly able to post what they want whenever they want. Indeed there is one (a self proclaimed World authority on every topic known to man) who has come back to apologise to me for his comments after his head had cleared. The trouble is that the damage made by the original comments is already done but sadly not criticised by the powers that be. It's as poor as the refereeing from last Saturdays game
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Post by Mozzer on Sept 2, 2024 15:24:27 GMT
So what you're saying is: We need WWIII. 😉
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Post by nelly on Sept 2, 2024 15:28:58 GMT
The perception was that punk exploded because the country was going to Hell in a handcart. But was it? Sure there were problems but when I left school in 1977 there was still 100's of good apprenticeships with good reliable, established companies especially in the engineering sector in Stockport. Companies like Simon Carves, Mirlees Blackstone, Avro's, Faireys, Craven's and many many more companies who were suppliers to these bigger companies. The fact that not a single one of these companies exist today can be laid firmly at the door of the Wicked Witch of Grantham. She decimated Britain's engineering - and mining - heritage with her zeal to curb the unions. GB Ltd is still paying for that to this day and will continue to do so for years to come. Yep she killed our manufacturing industries and closed the mines prematurely. She also created the me, me, me selfish attitude, which is still with us to this day.
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Post by suedehead on Sept 2, 2024 15:29:21 GMT
Why are you slagging him off as 'ignorant as shit'. Is that the general level of debate when someone comes on here to present alternative views? I actually don't agree with most of what he says but it's good to have differing viewpoints and although he might rile a few on here,it's hardly extreme generally. Thank you edjelley, I was waiting for an apology from the poster but sadly nothing arrived from him. It's clear that whilst we have two tier Kier applying different rules and regulations for some people in the UK he's not applying all those new rules and regulations evenly. We clearly have two tier rules in play here on yellowboard. With the clique seemingly able to post what they want whenever they want. Indeed there is one (a self proclaimed World authority on every topic known to man) who has come back to apologise to me for his comments after his head had cleared. The trouble is that the damage made by the original comments is already done but sadly not criticised by the powers that be. It's as poor as the refereeing from last Saturdays game Any chance of a clarification or apology about your numerous incorrect posts on here over the past couple of months? Of course not.
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Post by The Real Exile on Sept 2, 2024 15:36:18 GMT
Why are you slagging him off as 'ignorant as shit'. Is that the general level of debate when someone comes on here to present alternative views? I actually don't agree with most of what he says but it's good to have differing viewpoints and although he might rile a few on here,it's hardly extreme generally. Thank you edjelley, I was waiting for an apology from the poster but sadly nothing arrived from him. It's clear that whilst we have two tier Kier applying different rules and regulations for some people in the UK he's not applying all those new rules and regulations evenly. We clearly have two tier rules in play here on yellowboard. With the clique seemingly able to post what they want whenever they want. Indeed there is one (a self proclaimed World authority on every topic known to man) who has come back to apologise to me for his comments after his head had cleared. The trouble is that the damage made by the original comments is already done but sadly not criticised by the powers that be. It's as poor as the refereeing from last Saturdays game Can you please define who is in the clique and also are they in a secret WhatsApp group?
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