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Post by timberwolf on Sept 13, 2024 11:35:22 GMT
Andalucia. Should we allow Ukraine to use western missiles on Russia? Well it certainly didn,t help Adolph using them did it. Somehow we will have to learn to live with russia however we might not like it and putin will not be around for ever which is a big help. Getting somewhere between appeasement and bullish against a country is vastly important.
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Post by desmond on Sept 13, 2024 12:10:40 GMT
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Post by Bilby on Sept 13, 2024 12:29:26 GMT
I set a monthly quiz for the over 50,s group i belong to. All are over 60 and feel the average young person could put them to shame. I set them on the knowledge i have and just think of myself as an average bloke and not a mastermind contender. However even explaining the questions is hard work and getting some to understand that in this weeks quiz all the answers had to start and finish with a letter A was harder than getting a ticket for a County game. Even got once answer to an egyptian city being cairo and i thought my spelling was crap. Aspidistra, right? One thing this confirms is that they were no smarter now than when they were young- unless they have dementia.
I'll probably sound big headed but I have lived/worked in 6 continents and taught or managed courses with people from 8-80, with the vast majority being 16-45 age range.. Easily 10-20,000+ people over 42 years I reckon. 20 years was with migrants and overseas students in Colleges and Universities here in Australia. Most have good knowledge of their own culture but this varies by country and religion and political brainwashing. I have worked as an exam writer , examiner and moderator for the Southern regions examinations board in UK- way back in the late 70's early 80's and more recent an examiner for Cambridge University exams. I have taught overseas military, nurses, teachers and business people. Anywhere you go you will find the smart and the not so smart.Those who want to learn and those who use the popular 'card' "I don't know it is before my time" Young people are indeed the future but I worry when they can't multiply 5x6 without a calculator. I recall questions/answers from exams I set years ago.
Name one thing the Romans introduced to Britain..............................machine guns.
On which country was the atom bomb dropped in 1945............................England.
More recently I had a group of Saudi military who between them calculated the number of deaths in WW2 was around 20 thousand . One of this group aged 23 had been in England for 2 years and then discovered he was on an island.
So please forgive my negative views on some of them. The fact is some don't know because they don't want to know. Others are absolute sponges for knowledge. The wider people travel the more they know in my opinion. I know people here in Australia who have never left the country and conversations with them can at times be limited/
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Post by Bilby on Sept 13, 2024 12:33:08 GMT
I set a monthly quiz for the over 50,s group i belong to. All are over 60 and feel the average young person could put them to shame. I set them on the knowledge i have and just think of myself as an average bloke and not a mastermind contender. However even explaining the questions is hard work and getting some to understand that in this weeks quiz all the answers had to start and finish with a letter A was harder than getting a ticket for a County game. Even got once answer to an egyptian city being cairo and i thought my spelling was crap. Aspidistra, right? Antofagasta and Antalya
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Post by sidcup on Sept 13, 2024 12:45:11 GMT
Accra, Abuja and Addis Ababa
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Post by sidcup on Sept 13, 2024 12:49:03 GMT
Accra, Abuja and Addis Ababa And let's not forget Adana, Asmara, Astana and Aqaba.
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Post by Stranded Hatter on Sept 13, 2024 12:50:02 GMT
Always good to ask for proof of what our politicos are saying. Starmer’s three point strategic focus for renewing and improving the NHS is focusing on the right areas but will require massive investment to be more than just a sound bite. Where is the money going to come from? Taxes on stuff that make us unhealthy as a nation I would suggest: diesel, petrol, fags, alcohol, junk food, sugar and also on wealth. To effect massive change (and it is needed at scale) it will take massive investment. I hope they do it. They could start tackling the obesity and child poverty problems by providing feee nutritious school meal for breakfast and lunch. They should also have physical activity / sport for the kids daily - if not at the start of the morning and afternoon sessions. Ridiculous how much NHS resource is being taken up with obesity/type 2 diabetes amongst the young. Prevention much better and cheaper than cure/managing chronic conditions. No more money apparently though without major reform, with Streeting in charge and his mate Milburn close by it will be interesting to see what those reforms look like and where the money goes. Streeting who is openly in favour of more of the private sector being involved in the NHS
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Post by Count de Stockport on Sept 13, 2024 12:53:15 GMT
One thing this confirms is that they were no smarter now than when they were young- unless they have dementia.
I'll probably sound big headed but I have lived/worked in 6 continents and taught or managed courses with people from 8-80, with the vast majority being 16-45 age range.. Easily 10-20,000+ people over 42 years I reckon. 20 years was with migrants and overseas students in Colleges and Universities here in Australia. Most have good knowledge of their own culture but this varies by country and religion and political brainwashing. I have worked as an exam writer , examiner and moderator for the Southern regions examinations board in UK- way back in the late 70's early 80's and more recent an examiner for Cambridge University exams. I have taught overseas military, nurses, teachers and business people. Anywhere you go you will find the smart and the not so smart.Those who want to learn and those who use the popular 'card' "I don't know it is before my time" Young people are indeed the future but I worry when they can't multiply 5x6 without a calculator. I recall questions/answers from exams I set years ago.
Name one thing the Romans introduced to Britain..............................machine guns.
On which country was the atom bomb dropped in 1945............................England.
More recently I had a group of Saudi military who between them calculated the number of deaths in WW2 was around 20 thousand . One of this group aged 23 had been in England for 2 years and then discovered he was on an island.
So please forgive my negative views on some of them. The fact is some don't know because they don't want to know. Others are absolute sponges for knowledge. The wider people travel the more they know in my opinion. I know people here in Australia who have never left the country and conversations with them can at times be limited/
Don't worry. Things will get better with the ChatGPT generation
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Post by Stranded Hatter on Sept 13, 2024 12:56:15 GMT
Different world. And there were plenty of other health problems back the that don't exist any more or have steadily declined since then. My perception is kids seem to 'play out' less than even 30 years ago when I was younger. By playing out, I don't mind organised/structured sports sessions or even arranged play dates for younger kids, just general 'Mum, I'm going out, see you later' stuff where you'd be out all day just mooching about, on your bike, running around etc. Maybe mine are a bit too young for that and kids still just disappear all day but my impression is it's a lot more arranged now. Phones/technology have a big part in it too. They just didn't exist, even when I was younger - or rather mobiles did, but they were generally for business purposes and was unheard of for kids to have them until I was about 14/15 around the year 2000. Everyone having phones now makes it easier for kids to keep in touch and reduces the need to see each other and they're also a legitimate source of entertainment in themselves. We all sit and have a scroll, spend too much time on our phones, kids do the same but x100, given the chance. Plus there's just general more to do at home these days. There's a million tv channels to watch, films on demand, YouTube etc. Stuff kids love. It makes it really easy to stay at home on your own and chat via messages or have your mates round to watch stuff with you. There's probably deeper societal issues at play as well, stuff like perception of danger, not letting kids out of your sight etc that comes into play as well. And then there's the ease/convenience of getting unhealthy food. There's shops everywhere. Takeaways everywhere. Piece of piss to order stuff to your house from your phone. I remember a takeaway was a three times a year thing when I was younger. I'm lucky if I go a fortnight now without getting one. Same with eating out. Anyway, I sound like my dad now.
think the bike / mooching about culture has largely died because of the number of cars on the road / fact a lot of the old pieces of waste ground have now been redeveloped into housing or similar too. Those sort of spaces just don't tend to exist in urban areas to the extent they did in the 80s.
As well as the obesity issues mentioned, I definitely think there's a link between the lack of this sort of unstructured play and the current mental health epidemic amongst teens.
How do you explain the “current mental health epidemic amongst” adults? For me I think it has something to do with being raised with an optimistic “you can do anything you set your mind to” style of bringing up young people, only for them to get to adulthood, the economy to crash twice, and all be stuck in service industry jobs where they can barely afford the enormous rents they now have to pay. That’s my theory anyway.
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Post by Stranded Hatter on Sept 13, 2024 12:57:06 GMT
think the bike / mooching about culture has largely died because of the number of cars on the road / fact a lot of the old pieces of waste ground have now been redeveloped into housing or similar too. Those sort of spaces just don't tend to exist in urban areas to the extent they did in the 80s.
As well as the obesity issues mentioned, I definitely think there's a link between the lack of this sort of unstructured play and the current mental health epidemic amongst teens.
Don't disagree. Entirely anecdotally, living with two teenagers and seeing how they and their friends operate, I'd add social media to that. Mrs Mozzer and I were talking to them about it this week and the differences to growing up in the 70s/80s. Would we want it adding to what we did back then? Almost certainly not. It has benefits but I'm not sure they outweigh the downsides overall. They, of course, struggle to imagine their teenage years without it. Sadly, it's not really enough to make glib comments about kids now just getting a grip and being more like we were when we were younger (whether you're 40, 50, 70 or whatever). Aside from the fact a lot of nostalgia is rose-tinted, it *is* a different and constantly changing world and you can't make it how you want it. How you address the issues generated by some of the crap around social media I've very little idea, though I'm pretty sure trying to ban teenagers from accessing it would be a cast-iron failure. Social media is definitely awful for mental health. That I’ll agree with. I’m encouraged to use it for career enhancement. I’m on the verge of taking an extended break from it.
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Post by herbiedumplings on Sept 13, 2024 12:57:42 GMT
One thing this confirms is that they were no smarter now than when they were young- unless they have dementia.
I'll probably sound big headed but I have lived/worked in 6 continents and taught or managed courses with people from 8-80, with the vast majority being 16-45 age range.. Easily 10-20,000+ people over 42 years I reckon. 20 years was with migrants and overseas students in Colleges and Universities here in Australia. Most have good knowledge of their own culture but this varies by country and religion and political brainwashing. I have worked as an exam writer , examiner and moderator for the Southern regions examinations board in UK- way back in the late 70's early 80's and more recent an examiner for Cambridge University exams. I have taught overseas military, nurses, teachers and business people. Anywhere you go you will find the smart and the not so smart.Those who want to learn and those who use the popular 'card' "I don't know it is before my time" Young people are indeed the future but I worry when they can't multiply 5x6 without a calculator. I recall questions/answers from exams I set years ago.
Name one thing the Romans introduced to Britain..............................machine guns.
On which country was the atom bomb dropped in 1945............................England.
More recently I had a group of Saudi military who between them calculated the number of deaths in WW2 was around 20 thousand . One of this group aged 23 had been in England for 2 years and then discovered he was on an island.
So please forgive my negative views on some of them. The fact is some don't know because they don't want to know. Others are absolute sponges for knowledge. The wider people travel the more they know in my opinion. I know people here in Australia who have never left the country and conversations with them can at times be limited/
God bless your little cotton socks for responding to my silly answer with such a lengthy stream of invective. It’s still only Friday, but you’ve made my weekend!
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Post by porthatter on Sept 13, 2024 13:03:33 GMT
Accra, Abuja and Addis Ababa And let's not forget Adana, Asmara, Astana and Aqaba. Adaramola, who happens to be my sponsored player.
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Post by sidcup on Sept 13, 2024 13:12:24 GMT
And let's not forget Adana, Asmara, Astana and Aqaba. Adaramola, who happens to be my sponsored player. Aman Verma (I don't suppose you sponsored him as well?)
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Post by HTC on Sept 13, 2024 13:22:49 GMT
think the bike / mooching about culture has largely died because of the number of cars on the road / fact a lot of the old pieces of waste ground have now been redeveloped into housing or similar too. Those sort of spaces just don't tend to exist in urban areas to the extent they did in the 80s.
As well as the obesity issues mentioned, I definitely think there's a link between the lack of this sort of unstructured play and the current mental health epidemic amongst teens.
How do you explain the “current mental health epidemic amongst” adults? For me I think it has something to do with being raised with an optimistic “you can do anything you set your mind to” style of bringing up young people, only for them to get to adulthood, the economy to crash twice, and all be stuck in service industry jobs where they can barely afford the enormous rents they now have to pay. That’s my theory anyway.
for me, it's the hideous combination of three things, and definitely agreed with you on the one above.
80s Thatcherite 'no such thing as society' attitudes destroying the social fabric in the first place, with housing being the massive one.
90s/00s Blair filtered through X Factor 'you can be anything you want, you just have to want it hard enough' rhetoric, meaning people think they've failed even if their goals were utterly unrealistic in the first place
10s/20s toxic positivity / influencer culture making people think everyone else is having a better time than them
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Post by porthatter on Sept 13, 2024 14:38:03 GMT
Adaramola, who happens to be my sponsored player. Aman Verma (I don't suppose you sponsored him as well?) No but I have sponsored Ash Palma.
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