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Post by Stranded Hatter on Sept 13, 2024 16:41:31 GMT
How do you explain the “current mental health epidemic amongst” adults? For me I think it has something to do with being raised with an optimistic “you can do anything you set your mind to” style of bringing up young people, only for them to get to adulthood, the economy to crash twice, and all be stuck in service industry jobs where they can barely afford the enormous rents they now have to pay. That’s my theory anyway.
for me, it's the hideous combination of three things, and definitely agreed with you on the one above.
80s Thatcherite 'no such thing as society' attitudes destroying the social fabric in the first place, with housing being the massive one.
90s/00s Blair filtered through X Factor 'you can be anything you want, you just have to want it hard enough' rhetoric, meaning people think they've failed even if their goals were utterly unrealistic in the first place
10s/20s toxic positivity / influencer culture making people think everyone else is having a better time than them
A truly toxic combination. I also think there’s an element of depression always being high and life always being isolating, it’s just now there’s a willingness to talk more openly about it.
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Post by Bilby on Sept 13, 2024 22:52:17 GMT
One thing this confirms is that they were no smarter now than when they were young- unless they have dementia.
I'll probably sound big headed but I have lived/worked in 6 continents and taught or managed courses with people from 8-80, with the vast majority being 16-45 age range.. Easily 10-20,000+ people over 42 years I reckon. 20 years was with migrants and overseas students in Colleges and Universities here in Australia. Most have good knowledge of their own culture but this varies by country and religion and political brainwashing. I have worked as an exam writer , examiner and moderator for the Southern regions examinations board in UK- way back in the late 70's early 80's and more recent an examiner for Cambridge University exams. I have taught overseas military, nurses, teachers and business people. Anywhere you go you will find the smart and the not so smart.Those who want to learn and those who use the popular 'card' "I don't know it is before my time" Young people are indeed the future but I worry when they can't multiply 5x6 without a calculator. I recall questions/answers from exams I set years ago.
Name one thing the Romans introduced to Britain..............................machine guns.
On which country was the atom bomb dropped in 1945............................England.
More recently I had a group of Saudi military who between them calculated the number of deaths in WW2 was around 20 thousand . One of this group aged 23 had been in England for 2 years and then discovered he was on an island.
So please forgive my negative views on some of them. The fact is some don't know because they don't want to know. Others are absolute sponges for knowledge. The wider people travel the more they know in my opinion. I know people here in Australia who have never left the country and conversations with them can at times be limited/
God bless your little cotton socks for responding to my silly answer with such a lengthy stream of invective. It’s still only Friday, but you’ve made my weekend! .....................................................................................................................................hardly !!invective /ɪnˈvɛktɪv/ noun noun: invective insulting, abusive, or highly critical language. "he let out a stream of invective"I gave 4 examples of 'amusing?'- IMHO- answers from hundreds of thousands - mostly correct. avagoodweekend you patronising person
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Post by Stranded Hatter on Sept 13, 2024 23:36:34 GMT
This is bleak. Say what you will about the policy but considering the grown ups are supposed to be back in charge they’re really bungling their honeymoon period www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/winter-fuel-payment-cut-assessment-starmer-b2611942.htmlLabour are acting like a party who got their stonking majority from a large popular vote, not like a party who got it from a decimated Tory party and tactical voting. I know the game they’re playing is to front load the bad stuff to then try and spend 4 years building it back up but I personally don’t trust Reeves or Streeting to actually offer any hope between now and the next election. This majority was a chance for Labour to offer something good. No sign of it yet. I’d say I’m disappointed but it’s no less than I expected. We’re f*cked.
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Post by Stranded Hatter on Sept 13, 2024 23:47:20 GMT
Just got my car insurance renewal quote. After a 33% increase last year it’s double this year, and it’s not even down to changing address as it is nearly double what they’re saying it would have cost me last year.
Thought we’d had all the insurance spikes last year. Another year of no claims but it continues to rise.
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Post by Mozzer on Sept 14, 2024 3:53:09 GMT
This is bleak. Say what you will about the policy but considering the grown ups are supposed to be back in charge they’re really bungling their honeymoon period www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/winter-fuel-payment-cut-assessment-starmer-b2611942.htmlLabour are acting like a party who got their stonking majority from a large popular vote, not like a party who got it from a decimated Tory party and tactical voting. I know the game they’re playing is to front load the bad stuff to then try and spend 4 years building it back up but I personally don’t trust Reeves or Streeting to actually offer any hope between now and the next election. This majority was a chance for Labour to offer something good. No sign of it yet. I’d say I’m disappointed but it’s no less than I expected. We’re f*cked. www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/sep/13/labour-keir-starmer-rachel-reeves-interest-ratesBroadly agree with you. I think on top of (or inherent to) what you say, they've been incredibly tin-eared about the WFA thing. Even if you accept the thinking behind it, 'optics' are obviously hugely important and the WFA was always going to look utterly appalling. Anyway, all that said, the article above tries to make a case for ends justifying means and also a case for sticking with hope. I still think they're generally behaving like a governing party, which is more than the previous incumbents managed for most of their time, certainly in the second half of their time in office, and even when they did try to govern, it was when Truss had her go. 'Not being an anarchic clusterf*ck' is a very low bar to get over, admittedly. They're managing it, I think, but I agree they have to be doing better than that.
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Post by mattyovrio on Sept 14, 2024 4:06:45 GMT
This is bleak. Say what you will about the policy but considering the grown ups are supposed to be back in charge they’re really bungling their honeymoon period www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/winter-fuel-payment-cut-assessment-starmer-b2611942.htmlLabour are acting like a party who got their stonking majority from a large popular vote, not like a party who got it from a decimated Tory party and tactical voting. I know the game they’re playing is to front load the bad stuff to then try and spend 4 years building it back up but I personally don’t trust Reeves or Streeting to actually offer any hope between now and the next election. This majority was a chance for Labour to offer something good. No sign of it yet. I’d say I’m disappointed but it’s no less than I expected. We’re f*cked. Too early to say for me how this government will be judged. It takes a few years to effect any sort of change (unless your Liz Truss and tank the economy in a matter of weeks). Big change takes even longer. They need to get the politics right to get the time needed to make those big changes. We are right at the beginning of the political cycle and yes, it is right out of the Thatcher/Major playbook - front load the pain to hand out the goodies later on to buy enough votes to stay in power.
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Post by tvor on Sept 14, 2024 7:04:10 GMT
This is bleak. Say what you will about the policy but considering the grown ups are supposed to be back in charge they’re really bungling their honeymoon period www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/winter-fuel-payment-cut-assessment-starmer-b2611942.htmlLabour are acting like a party who got their stonking majority from a large popular vote, not like a party who got it from a decimated Tory party and tactical voting. I know the game they’re playing is to front load the bad stuff to then try and spend 4 years building it back up but I personally don’t trust Reeves or Streeting to actually offer any hope between now and the next election. This majority was a chance for Labour to offer something good. No sign of it yet. I’d say I’m disappointed but it’s no less than I expected. We’re f*cked. Too early to say for me how this government will be judged. It takes a few years to effect any sort of change (unless your Liz Truss and tank the economy in a matter of weeks). Big change takes even longer. They need to get the politics right to get the time needed to make those big changes. We are right at the beginning of the political cycle and yes, it is right out of the Thatcher/Major playbook - front load the pain to hand out the goodies later on to buy enough votes to stay in power. The news that half the £22 Billion black hole is directly down to Starmer and Reeves with their gifts of huge pay increases sums it all up. How many times are these clowns going to mention the last fourteen years and twenty two billion pensioned whenever they're questioned? The media are just as bad. Anyway good luck today lads. Bring back the three points with a three nil victory
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Post by Nik on Sept 14, 2024 7:10:47 GMT
Too early to say for me how this government will be judged. It takes a few years to effect any sort of change (unless your Liz Truss and tank the economy in a matter of weeks). Big change takes even longer. They need to get the politics right to get the time needed to make those big changes. We are right at the beginning of the political cycle and yes, it is right out of the Thatcher/Major playbook - front load the pain to hand out the goodies later on to buy enough votes to stay in power. The news that half the £22 Billion black hole is directly down to Starmer and Reeves with their gifts of huge pay increases sums it all up. How many times are these clowns going to mention the last fourteen years and twenty two billion pensioned whenever they're questioned? The media are just as bad. Anyway good luck today lads. Bring back the three points with a three nil victory You spent a fair chunk of the election period blaming the country's current problems on a Labour government that hadn't been in power for 14 years, so once again that's incredible levels of irony on your part.
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Post by tvor on Sept 14, 2024 7:26:28 GMT
The news that half the £22 Billion black hole is directly down to Starmer and Reeves with their gifts of huge pay increases sums it all up. How many times are these clowns going to mention the last fourteen years and twenty two billion pensioned whenever they're questioned? The media are just as bad. Anyway good luck today lads. Bring back the three points with a three nil victory You spent a fair chunk of the election period blaming the country's current problems on a Labour government that hadn't been in power for 14 years, so once again that's incredible levels of irony on your part. I couldn't really give a toss to what you think to be fair. Ollie Norwood has put a "love" emoji on one of my posts elsewhere overnight and that is of far more value.
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Post by tvor on Sept 14, 2024 7:37:55 GMT
Who's intimidated euthanasia? Written tongue in cheek Mozzer
though we have had posts like this earlier in the year
7 Jan 2024 at 7:30pm ***** said: Don’t get me started on baby boomers. The country will be far better off when they’re no longer with us. I include my parents and a lot of family members.
Yep. Both my parents are dead and I’m grateful I don’t have to listen to their ignorant as shit, hateful nonsense anymore.
Bilby, I can't believe that somebody actually posted stuff like that. Whoever ***** is should hang their heads in shame. You can ask any of my children and grandchildren what the most important thing in the World is, and they will say without hesitation it's family. Every one of them. Tonight is a family gathering (curry night) for sixteen for my birthday bash before we head off on holiday. Yes, even baby boomers can go on holiday. And any of you in your fifties, sixties and seventies should tune in to BOOM Radio. It'll take you back through a time warp. You can get it DAB, online or through the app.
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Post by suedehead on Sept 14, 2024 7:38:56 GMT
You spent a fair chunk of the election period blaming the country's current problems on a Labour government that hadn't been in power for 14 years, so once again that's incredible levels of irony on your part. I couldn't really give a toss to what you think to be fair. Ollie Norwood has put a "love" emoji on one of my posts elsewhere overnight and that is of far more value. 🫢
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Post by Nik on Sept 14, 2024 7:48:10 GMT
You spent a fair chunk of the election period blaming the country's current problems on a Labour government that hadn't been in power for 14 years, so once again that's incredible levels of irony on your part. I couldn't really give a toss to what you think to be fair. Ollie Norwood has put a "love" emoji on one of my posts elsewhere overnight and that is of far more value. Wow, that sure showed me!
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Post by suedehead on Sept 14, 2024 7:48:29 GMT
Written tongue in cheek Mozzer
though we have had posts like this earlier in the year 7 Jan 2024 at 7:30pm ***** said: Don’t get me started on baby boomers. The country will be far better off when they’re no longer with us. I include my parents and a lot of family members.
Yep. Both my parents are dead and I’m grateful I don’t have to listen to their ignorant as shit, hateful nonsense anymore.
Bilby, I can't believe that somebody actually posted stuff like that. Whoever ***** is should hang their heads in shame. You can ask any of my children and grandchildren what the most important thing in the World is, and they will say without hesitation it's family. Every one of them. Tonight is a family gathering (curry night) for sixteen for my birthday bash before we head off on holiday. Yes, even baby boomers can go on holiday. And any of you in your fifties, sixties and seventies should tune in to BOOM Radio. It'll take you back through a time warp. You can get it DAB, online or through the app. It’s too simple to just say family is the most important thing though, isn’t it? It should be. And Mrs sue and my kids are defo to me. But you can’t choose your family. And you’re under no obligation to agree with them or stand by them if they routinely make piss poor decisions that cause significant damage/trauma to others around them. The boomers comment wasn’t me, but pretty sure the bit I’ve quoted was. It’s been snipped so there was more to it. I went on to say my mum was a kind gentle lady but she had a blind spot for racism. Fuelled by nonsense she read in the Mail and didn’t like it when she was challenged. Much like you. I’m not glad she’s dead, but I’m glad I don’t have to put up with listening to that any more. My dad was very different. I’ve said before he was outwardly racist and proud of it. Would happily shout abuse to people in the street. Had big problems with alcohol, which is what killed him. Loads of other factors that I don’t need to go into here. I’m not sure I’m glad he’s dead, but should he be the most important thing in my life? Not for me, Clive.
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Post by vicar on Sept 14, 2024 7:53:06 GMT
Too early to say for me how this government will be judged. It takes a few years to effect any sort of change (unless your Liz Truss and tank the economy in a matter of weeks). Big change takes even longer. They need to get the politics right to get the time needed to make those big changes. We are right at the beginning of the political cycle and yes, it is right out of the Thatcher/Major playbook - front load the pain to hand out the goodies later on to buy enough votes to stay in power. The news that half the £22 Billion black hole is directly down to Starmer and Reeves with their gifts of huge pay increases sums it all up. How many times are these clowns going to mention the last fourteen years and twenty two billion pensioned whenever they're questioned? The media are just as bad. Anyway good luck today lads. Bring back the three points with a three nil victory The pay rises don't even catch up with private sector pay, the tories had pencilled in 2% for Junior doctors which would have seen further strikes and longer waiting lists. As for how long can they blame the last 14 years? I'd say a couple of years minimum would be fair.
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Post by Mozzer on Sept 14, 2024 7:53:50 GMT
You spent a fair chunk of the election period blaming the country's current problems on a Labour government that hadn't been in power for 14 years, so once again that's incredible levels of irony on your part. I couldn't really give a toss to what you think to be fair. Ollie Norwood has put a "love" emoji on one of my posts elsewhere overnight and that is of far more value. You don't have to care. But Nik makes an entirely valid point you've failed to address, instead deciding going ad hominem. Anyway, back to the point you made - I've done a Google search in relation to your claim about the pay rises (already covered, already identified as not huge) being half of the 22billion, but with no success. However, that does not mean the info isn't there, so I'd welcome a link to the facts, please. I'll do you a return favour: there is a pinned thread at the top of the page where you can talk about today's game.
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