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Post by The Real Exile on Sept 14, 2024 8:57:47 GMT
The news that half the £22 Billion black hole is directly down to Starmer and Reeves with their gifts of huge pay increases sums it all up. How many times are these clowns going to mention the last fourteen years and twenty two billion pensioned whenever they're questioned? The media are just as bad. Anyway good luck today lads. Bring back the three points with a three nil victory The pay rises don't even catch up with private sector pay, the tories had pencilled in 2% for Junior doctors which would have seen further strikes and longer waiting lists. As for how long can they blame the last 14 years? I'd say a couple of years minimum would be fair. I must have been working in the wrong part of the private sector, last 10 years I had a grand total of 6 percent, only way to get a raise is to leave! We have been bought out so this years review has been postponed 🙄 I'd imagine that they will brush it under the carpet.
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Post by herbiedumplings on Sept 14, 2024 9:06:44 GMT
The pay rises don't even catch up with private sector pay, the tories had pencilled in 2% for Junior doctors which would have seen further strikes and longer waiting lists. As for how long can they blame the last 14 years? I'd say a couple of years minimum would be fair. I must have been working in the wrong part of the private sector, last 10 years I had a grand total of 6 percent, only way to get a raise is to leave! We have been bought out so this years review has been postponed 🙄 I'd imagine that they will brush it under the carpet. I’ve never got a pay rise without changing jobs in the times I’ve worked for private sector companies. The difference is that I’ve always been able to name my price at the start, and it’s always been a good 15-20% more than whatever I was on previously. Junior doctors’ pay bands are fixed, so you can’t just leave and do the same job somewhere else on a higher salary (in this country at least, hence why we suffer brain drain).
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Post by timberwolf on Sept 14, 2024 9:09:47 GMT
The boomers comment wasn’t me, but pretty sure the bit I’ve quoted was. It’s been snipped so there was more to it. I went on to say my mum was a kind gentle lady but she had a blind spot for racism. Fuelled by nonsense she read in the Mail and didn’t like it when she was challenged. Much like you. I’m not glad she’s dead, but I’m glad I don’t have to put up with listening to that any more. My dad was very different. I’ve said before he was outwardly racist and proud of it. Would happily shout abuse to people in the street. Had big problems with alcohol, which is what killed him. Loads of other factors that I don’t need to go into here. I’m not sure I’m glad he’s dead, but should he be the most important thing in my life? Not for me, Clive. Actually its hard to say until i had a son who was the most important person in my life and who influenced it most. Think it was myself and nobody else really. I,m not racist because my old man was or never been homophobic because my mother was or decided just to be different from them. Think its your own life experiances picking up bits from everyone who makes most what they actually are. Possibly given the wrong circumstances and the wrong involvement with a person or persons we all could easily be another peter sutcliffe or a tommy robinson.
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Post by timberwolf on Sept 14, 2024 9:15:03 GMT
The pay rises don't even catch up with private sector pay, the tories had pencilled in 2% for Junior doctors which would have seen further strikes and longer waiting lists. As for how long can they blame the last 14 years? I'd say a couple of years minimum would be fair. I must have been working in the wrong part of the private sector, last 10 years I had a grand total of 6 percent, only way to get a raise is to leave! We have been bought out so this years review has been postponed 🙄 I'd imagine that they will brush it under the carpet. Think a lot depends on which position you hold in either sector for pay rises. In my years in public transport working for both sectors the private sector was always one pay settlement behind with worse conditions to work with.
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Post by girojim on Sept 14, 2024 10:02:50 GMT
Too early to say for me how this government will be judged. It takes a few years to effect any sort of change (unless your Liz Truss and tank the economy in a matter of weeks). Big change takes even longer. They need to get the politics right to get the time needed to make those big changes. We are right at the beginning of the political cycle and yes, it is right out of the Thatcher/Major playbook - front load the pain to hand out the goodies later on to buy enough votes to stay in power. The news that half the £22 Billion black hole is directly down to Starmer and Reeves with their gifts of huge pay increases sums it all up. How many times are these clowns going to mention the last fourteen years and twenty two billion pensioned whenever they're questioned? The media are just as bad. Anyway good luck today lads. Bring back the three points with a three nil victory Do you really believe the shit you post or are you just on a wind up?
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Post by ebbs on Sept 14, 2024 10:11:46 GMT
I must have been working in the wrong part of the private sector, last 10 years I had a grand total of 6 percent, only way to get a raise is to leave! We have been bought out so this years review has been postponed 🙄 I'd imagine that they will brush it under the carpet. Think a lot depends on which position you hold in either sector for pay rises. In my years in public transport working for both sectors the private sector was always one pay settlement behind with worse conditions to work with. Yeah the private sector pay gap is something of a myth unless you work for huge profitable conglomerates I.e. Banks. For starters any private sector business has to have the profit and balance sheet to be able to afford it, so in my career due to fallow years of profitability or alternative investment opportunities, everyone got nothing. In better years the business took the decision to limit increases to be in line with the public sector anyway.
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Post by redhatter on Sept 14, 2024 10:57:20 GMT
Too early to say for me how this government will be judged. It takes a few years to effect any sort of change (unless your Liz Truss and tank the economy in a matter of weeks). Big change takes even longer. They need to get the politics right to get the time needed to make those big changes. We are right at the beginning of the political cycle and yes, it is right out of the Thatcher/Major playbook - front load the pain to hand out the goodies later on to buy enough votes to stay in power. The news that half the £22 Billion black hole is directly down to Starmer and Reeves with their gifts of huge pay increases sums it all up. How many times are these clowns going to mention the last fourteen years and twenty two billion pensioned whenever they're questioned? The media are just as bad. Anyway good luck today lads. Bring back the three points with a three nil victory Labour have been in power for 10 weeks, so get used to being reminded about the £22bn black hole for the next few years. The Tories never tired of bleating about the last Labour government and kept banging on and on about the note that Liam Byrne left as a joke, saying "Dear Chief Secretary to the Treasury, There is no money left". The difference is that Labour faced a global financial crisis, whilst the Tories have spent 14 years enriching themselves and their mates. Labour should also highlight the fact those incompetent Tory b*stards TREBLED the national debt too.
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Post by nelly on Sept 14, 2024 11:04:27 GMT
Bilby, I can't believe that somebody actually posted stuff like that. Whoever ***** is should hang their heads in shame. You can ask any of my children and grandchildren what the most important thing in the World is, and they will say without hesitation it's family. Every one of them. Tonight is a family gathering (curry night) for sixteen for my birthday bash before we head off on holiday. Yes, even baby boomers can go on holiday. And any of you in your fifties, sixties and seventies should tune in to BOOM Radio. It'll take you back through a time warp. You can get it DAB, online or through the app. It’s too simple to just say family is the most important thing though, isn’t it? It should be. And Mrs sue and my kids are defo to me. But you can’t choose your family. And you’re under no obligation to agree with them or stand by them if they routinely make piss poor decisions that cause significant damage/trauma to others around them. The boomers comment wasn’t me, but pretty sure the bit I’ve quoted was. It’s been snipped so there was more to it. I went on to say my mum was a kind gentle lady but she had a blind spot for racism. Fuelled by nonsense she read in the Mail and didn’t like it when she was challenged. Much like you. I’m not glad she’s dead, but I’m glad I don’t have to put up with listening to that any more. My dad was very different. I’ve said before he was outwardly racist and proud of it. Would happily shout abuse to people in the street. Had big problems with alcohol, which is what killed him. Loads of other factors that I don’t need to go into here. I’m not sure I’m glad he’s dead, but should he be the most important thing in my life? Not for me, Clive. Boomer = Tory.
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Post by timberwolf on Sept 14, 2024 11:21:24 GMT
Boomer = Tory= brexiteer. Doubt any single party or referendum can ever be won with just a small section of the community voting the same on the issue. Thats if they did even if it can be proved the majority actually did.
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Post by bigmartin on Sept 14, 2024 12:40:29 GMT
The news that half the £22 Billion black hole is directly down to Starmer and Reeves with their gifts of huge pay increases sums it all up. How many times are these clowns going to mention the last fourteen years and twenty two billion pensioned whenever they're questioned? The media are just as bad. Anyway good luck today lads. Bring back the three points with a three nil victory Do you really believe the shit you post or are you just on a wind up? Hold on! "Middle of the road" is TVOR. Totally none-biased Reform voter. Very fair minded. Exc. when it comes to certain folk from Asia who he doesn't like and gets a tad 'racisty' about. But that was only a two-off... And in the true spirit of the man here's a hat emoji
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Post by canterbury on Sept 14, 2024 12:43:46 GMT
Boomer = Tory= brexiteer. Doubt any single party or referendum can ever be won with just a small section of the community voting the same on the issue. Thats if they did even if it can be proved the majority actually did. Brexit was. Boomer = born between 1946 and 1964, so aged 52 to 70 at the time of the EU referendum, that must be at least a fifth of the electorate, so when the result was so close to being 50/50 we can say that if they'd aligned with the younger age groups Remain would have won.
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Post by vicar on Sept 14, 2024 12:45:03 GMT
The pay rises don't even catch up with private sector pay, the tories had pencilled in 2% for Junior doctors which would have seen further strikes and longer waiting lists. As for how long can they blame the last 14 years? I'd say a couple of years minimum would be fair. I must have been working in the wrong part of the private sector, last 10 years I had a grand total of 6 percent, only way to get a raise is to leave! We have been bought out so this years review has been postponed 🙄 I'd imagine that they will brush it under the carpet. These are averages and the last government were constantly telling us how pay was rising faster than inflation.
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Post by vicar on Sept 14, 2024 12:47:55 GMT
The news that half the £22 Billion black hole is directly down to Starmer and Reeves with their gifts of huge pay increases sums it all up. How many times are these clowns going to mention the last fourteen years and twenty two billion pensioned whenever they're questioned? The media are just as bad. Anyway good luck today lads. Bring back the three points with a three nil victory Labour have been in power for 10 weeks, so get used to being reminded about the £22bn black hole for the next few years. The Tories never tired of bleating about the last Labour government and kept banging on and on about the note that Liam Byrne left as a joke, saying "Dear Chief Secretary to the Treasury, There is no money left". The difference is that Labour faced a global financial crisis, whilst the Tories have spent 14 years enriching themselves and their mates. Labour should also highlight the fact those incompetent Tory b*stards TREBLED the national debt too. More than doubled before the pandemic or the Russian invasion of Ukraine.
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Post by orkneyhatter on Sept 14, 2024 14:29:13 GMT
Boomer = Tory= brexiteer. Doubt any single party or referendum can ever be won with just a small section of the community voting the same on the issue. Thats if they did even if it can be proved the majority actually did. Brexit was. Boomer = born between 1946 and 1964, so aged 52 to 70 at the time of the EU referendum, that must be at least a fifth of the electorate, so when the result was so close to being 50/50 we can say that if they'd aligned with the younger age groups Remain would have won. that's a bit of a generalisation. I just fit into the boomer age group and did not vote Brexit, neither did my brother or sister, and certainly not Tory voters.
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Post by Stranded Hatter on Sept 14, 2024 16:58:22 GMT
I must have been working in the wrong part of the private sector, last 10 years I had a grand total of 6 percent, only way to get a raise is to leave! We have been bought out so this years review has been postponed 🙄 I'd imagine that they will brush it under the carpet. These are averages and the last government were constantly telling us how pay was rising faster than inflation. The last government did like to lie mind you
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