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Post by mattyovrio on Sept 18, 2024 6:05:46 GMT
One Republican leaning pollster interviewed on BBC said Trump is the first since Palin to be a candidate for President where the more they talk the more votes they lose.
Fingers crossed the little orange man loses and he and Maga are consigned to the dustbin of history. Hope more than expectation.
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Post by mattyovrio on Sept 18, 2024 6:25:08 GMT
Nobody’s perfect and we certainly shouldn’t expect our politicos to be. However, we have found Keith Starmer’s Achilles heel it would seem.
He is obviously an intelligent feller so surely he must have known that a) all these gifts would come out in public view b) the optics would be bad and c) it would make his job much more difficult.
It isn’t the scale of Michelle Mone PPE scandal (why don’t we hear about that any more?) or Hancock giving PPE contracts to his local pub landlord, but it ain’t good, is it?
I once ran a very politically sensitive service and was offered (and refused) gifts - including tickets for Ashes test matches, which I would have really enjoyed. I said no because I didn’t want anyone querying the motives behind my actions. Am not a saint but do believe in not making life difficult for yourself where possible!
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Post by stalybridgehatter on Sept 18, 2024 6:50:26 GMT
Nobody’s perfect and we certainly shouldn’t expect our politicos to be. However, we have found Keith Starmer’s Achilles heel it would seem. He is obviously an intelligent feller so surely he must have known that a) all these gifts would come out in public view b) the optics would be bad and c) it would make his job much more difficult. It isn’t the scale of Michelle Mone PPE scandal (why don’t we hear about that any more?) or Hancock giving PPE contracts to his local pub landlord, but it ain’t good, is it? I once ran a very politically sensitive service and was offered (and refused) gifts - including tickets for Ashes test matches, which I would have really enjoyed. I said no because I didn’t want anyone querying the motives behind my actions. Am not a saint but do believe in not making life difficult for yourself where possible! Bloody hell, I turn down free cans of Coca Cola when I'm offered them!
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Post by hedleyverity on Sept 18, 2024 6:54:41 GMT
Depending on who’s offering them I can understand watching football from a box, accepting money for his wife’s clothes is bloody stupid though
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Post by herbiedumplings on Sept 18, 2024 7:09:23 GMT
Nobody’s perfect and we certainly shouldn’t expect our politicos to be. However, we have found Keith Starmer’s Achilles heel it would seem. He is obviously an intelligent feller so surely he must have known that a) all these gifts would come out in public view b) the optics would be bad and c) it would make his job much more difficult. It isn’t the scale of Michelle Mone PPE scandal (why don’t we hear about that any more?) or Hancock giving PPE contracts to his local pub landlord, but it ain’t good, is it? I once ran a very politically sensitive service and was offered (and refused) gifts - including tickets for Ashes test matches, which I would have really enjoyed. I said no because I didn’t want anyone querying the motives behind my actions. Am not a saint but do believe in not making life difficult for yourself where possible! Bloody hell, I turn down free cans of Coca Cola when I'm offered them! Agreed. A cup of coffee from the machine in the conference room of whoever I’m meeting is about the most I can accept!
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Post by stalybridgehatter on Sept 18, 2024 7:15:15 GMT
Bloody hell, I turn down free cans of Coca Cola when I'm offered them! Agreed. A cup of coffee from the machine in the conference room of whoever I’m meeting is about the most I can accept! Being offered a brew or a hot chocolate from a polystyrene cup in a custody suite was the highlight of my day some days! 🤣
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Post by timberwolf on Sept 18, 2024 7:27:53 GMT
Not as anti trump as many on here May I ask: why not? It does not mean i support or like him. Feel at times its fashionable to knock him even if he does make it easy. The last 4 years hasn,t been great with a creepy care home escapee in power who certainly is no lover of this country. Think the abstain party in the USA is a better bet than in this years election here. At least they have two real alternatives to vote for but neither fill me wth great confidence being the worlds strongest nation.
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Post by desmond on Sept 18, 2024 8:19:13 GMT
Nobody’s perfect and we certainly shouldn’t expect our politicos to be. However, we have found Keith Starmer’s Achilles heel it would seem. He is obviously an intelligent feller so surely he must have known that a) all these gifts would come out in public view b) the optics would be bad and c) it would make his job much more difficult. It isn’t the scale of Michelle Mone PPE scandal (why don’t we hear about that any more?) or Hancock giving PPE contracts to his local pub landlord, but it ain’t good, is it? I once ran a very politically sensitive service and was offered (and refused) gifts - including tickets for Ashes test matches, which I would have really enjoyed. I said no because I didn’t want anyone querying the motives behind my actions. Am not a saint but do believe in not making life difficult for yourself where possible! Also think I’ve read that in his time as leader he’s already taken more in gift value then all other Labour leaders since 1997, maybe he’s a Kleptomaniac. 😉 Edit, maybe more of a hoarder to be fair.
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Post by herbiedumplings on Sept 18, 2024 12:17:51 GMT
Labour really aren’t doing very well at differentiating themselves from the last lot, are they? Now this: Keir Starmer's top aide Sue Gray paid more than the PM www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx247wkq137o“It was suggested that she might want to go for a few thousand pounds less than the prime minister to avoid this very story. She declined.” I wonder she’ll end up stabbing Starmer in the back the way Cummings did?
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Post by David Schofield on Sept 18, 2024 12:22:00 GMT
Labour really aren’t doing very well at differentiating themselves from the last lot, are they? Now this: Keir Starmer's top aide Sue Gray paid more than the PM www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx247wkq137o“It was suggested that she might want to go for a few thousand pounds less than the prime minister to avoid this very story. She declined.” I wonder she’ll end up stabbing Starmer in the back the way Cummings did? The “Chief of Staff” or whatever we are calling it now should be an extremely well paid job… The Prime Minister’s salary is laughably small in this country… I would be surprised if Sue Gray wasn’t earning more tbh
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Post by Lee on Sept 18, 2024 12:26:06 GMT
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Post by scfc29 on Sept 18, 2024 12:41:08 GMT
Labour really aren’t doing very well at differentiating themselves from the last lot, are they? Now this: Keir Starmer's top aide Sue Gray paid more than the PM www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx247wkq137o“It was suggested that she might want to go for a few thousand pounds less than the prime minister to avoid this very story. She declined.” I wonder she’ll end up stabbing Starmer in the back the way Cummings did? The “Chief of Staff” or whatever we are calling it now should be an extremely well paid job… The Prime Minister’s salary is laughably small in this country… I would be surprised if Sue Gray wasn’t earning more tbh Yep. We wonder why all of our politicians are crap and are in it for the wrong reasons - they get paid less than a successful recruitment consultant on good commission. There’s no incentive for real successful and talented people to get involved.
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Post by herbiedumplings on Sept 18, 2024 12:42:48 GMT
Labour really aren’t doing very well at differentiating themselves from the last lot, are they? Now this: Keir Starmer's top aide Sue Gray paid more than the PM www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx247wkq137o“It was suggested that she might want to go for a few thousand pounds less than the prime minister to avoid this very story. She declined.” I wonder she’ll end up stabbing Starmer in the back the way Cummings did? The “Chief of Staff” or whatever we are calling it now should be an extremely well paid job… The Prime Minister’s salary is laughably small in this country… I would be surprised if Sue Gray wasn’t earning more tbh Objectively, perhaps. But in terms of maintaining the consent of the governed, it’s yet another nail in the coffin of Starmer’s credibility as an agent for change IMO. I wouldn’t be surprised to hear Labour MPs are already receiving letters from their constituents, and submissions are already being made to whatever the equivalent of the 1922 Committee is. And as people are so eager to point out, we’re only n weeks in.
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Post by herbiedumplings on Sept 18, 2024 12:44:24 GMT
The “Chief of Staff” or whatever we are calling it now should be an extremely well paid job… The Prime Minister’s salary is laughably small in this country… I would be surprised if Sue Gray wasn’t earning more tbh Yep. We wonder why all of our politicians are crap and are in it for the wrong reasons - they get paid less than a successful recruitment consultant on good commission. There’s no incentive for real successful and talented people to get involved. There’s nothing stopping you being an MP and a successful recruitment consultant on good commission at the same time, as things stand.
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Post by Lee on Sept 18, 2024 12:44:51 GMT
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